The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

morpheve said:
OMG [emoji44] that is Mega Thread!
Considering to join Sony family and buy Sony A7III- mainly for landscape. Looking for some advice, tips. Would like to know what lenses you use. I guess I am in the right place?
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The lenses depends on what sort of landscapes you shoot.
Mid range zoom I would say the 24-105 f4 plenty sharp enough espically at traditional landscape apertures and a very handy focal length - rally impressed with mine. You can push the boat out and get the 24-70 GM or there is the Tamron 28-75ish? that gets good reviews.

WIde angle = if you want a zoom the obivous choice would be the 16-35 either the f4 or the f2.8 GM depending on your budget.
If you happy with MF on the wide angle end it can include the Zeiss Loxia 21mm, Laowa 15mm f2 and the Voigtlander 15mm f4.5 all excellent lenses.

Telephoto end you have the obvious 70-200 either the f4 or f2.8 but I good lightweight cheap option would be a 200mm f4 prime from Canon, Olympus etc can be had well under £100 along with a £20 adaptor you can get lovely results at f8-f11.

Personally I went with the Sony 24-105 f4, Zeiss Loxia 21mm, a Laowa 15mm for Astro (a 16-35 would probably make more sense but I really fancied the Loxia 21mm) and I have a Olympus 200mm f4. I do have the Sony 100-400 but if Im walking any distance I normally take the Olympus it does suffer from a lack of contrast and CA but both can overcome in post.
 
F/1.4 said:
Catch a grip. My turn :LOL:

First of all you shot them on a crop sensor. Second of all they're all stopped down to f/3,000,000 (being humorous) all lenses at that F stop are sharp lol
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Ok you want sharp and wide open, then look HERE, scroll down and you will find some.

Guess what they're taken with the same camera you use, an A9! (still waiting for your shots by the way) :LOL:
 
Swiss Toni said:
Ok you want sharp and wide open, then look HERE, scroll down and you will find some.

Guess what they're taken with the same camera you use, an A9! (still waiting for your shots by the way) :LOL:
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Ken Rockwell. Jesus.

Swiss Toni, the lens is sooooo good that you're selling it
 
nandbytes said:
its generally good idea to leave it for a couple weeks in case there are issues. That's what i would do if my camera was linked to my livelihood

though i know a professional who updates immediately. he is part of sony pro support, he thinks he can get immediate support if there are issues. not sure how true that is...
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I haven’t done mine for that reason but has there ever been a situation where a camera firmware update caused any major issues. I can’t remember ever hearing about one.
 
f/2.8 said:
I haven’t done mine for that reason but has there ever been a situation where a camera firmware update caused any major issues. I can’t remember ever hearing about one.
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I done both my A7IIIs lol. Was shooting yesterday and one of them just stopped working, no power etc. Didn't catch on for about 15 minutes but the grip had came loose o_O
 
Raymond Lin said:
6 months ago Nikon fan boys was adamant that the F-type mount is good enough for FF. So now it isn't?
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Funny isn’t it, let’s see if Sony can continue to innovate and keep ahead of the competition.
I think Sony’s GM lenses are some of the best lenses out there. :)
 
f/2.8 said:
I haven’t done mine for that reason but has there ever been a situation where a camera firmware update caused any major issues. I can’t remember ever hearing about one.
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I can't remember the exacts but I believe both Sony and Fuji had issues in past with firmware updates
 
JJ! said:
Clearly it works. We are now in third gen and yep still works on FF.
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I don't think anyone is debating whether it works or not. I think they are saying it's easier* to design lenses for larger mounts.

*What "easier" exactly means is a bit dubious tbh, could mean more compact lens or lenses with less corrections hence glass elements i.e. permitting simpler design lenses.

Then again look at FE55 I can't really see canikon making a lens that's sharper and/or smaller.

It's all very dubious, we haven't had any credible optic engineers comment on it to fully understand the issue.
 
nandbytes said:
I don't think anyone is debating whether it works or not. I think they are saying it's easier* to design lenses for larger mounts.

*What "easier" exactly means is a bit dubious tbh, could mean more compact lens or lenses with less corrections hence glass elements i.e. permitting simpler design lenses.

Then again look at FE55 I can't really see canikon making a lens that's sharper and/or smaller.

It's all very dubious, we haven't had any credible optic engineers comment on it to fully understand the issue.
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Simpler less expensive lenses like the 3k 2870 f2?
 
F/1.4 said:
I done both my A7IIIs lol. Was shooting yesterday and one of them just stopped working, no power etc. Didn't catch on for about 15 minutes but the grip had came loose o_O
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:D ffs.
Can see how that could easily happen with both batteries being in the grip rather than one in the camera.
 
Riz_Guru said:
Funny isn’t it, let’s see if Sony can continue to innovate and keep ahead of the competition.
I think Sony’s GM lenses are some of the best lenses out there. :)
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The GM lenses are rather nice plus it’s pretty much the only full frame system that allows for reliable autofocus with the Sigma Art lenses which are also very nice.
 
twist said:
I think you may be getting confused. The new z mount reg distance is even shorter than Sony, does that make it even worse lol
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Think you are confusing things.

Raymond f-mount which is similar size to e-mount has been fit for FF for a long time. While that's true, I said but f-mount had a larger flange distance. Implying its not quite comparable to e-mount.

I never made any judgement on what's better or worst since I don't know. I am not an optics engineer.
 
nandbytes said:
Think you are confusing things.

Raymond f-mount which is similar size to e-mount has been fit for FF for a long time. While that's true, I said but f-mount had a larger flange distance. Implying its not quite comparable to e-mount.

I never made any judgement on what's better or worst since I don't know. I am not an optics engineer.
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Nor am I, but we all know the EOS mount has a wider mount too and a similar flange distance yet Nikon got it to work (mostly), except they couldn't make AF F/1.0 lenses with the F-Mount and with the new 55/0.95 being MF and not AF, they still can't…

I dunno, I guess it's all meaningless, all it matters is what lenses you bring out.

My point was that not that long ago Nikon users were all going about diameter is not a problem or make no difference, I mean if the wider mount do make a difference, it would be a bit pointless if they don't come out with some lenses like 28-70/2.0 or 50/1.2 AF out of the block to make their point, wouldn't it? :D

Leica better bring out some AF F/1.0 lenses or it's just all talk.
 
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nandbytes said:
Leica says Sony e-mount not made for FF - https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/le...-mount-wasnt-designed-for-full-frame-sensors/

time to grab your torches and pitchforks :D
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All this lens mount size stuff is all a bit baffling. The Sony system obviously works with f1.2 and wider lenses and works with FF lenses from Sony / Zeiss and a host of others and with all the legacy lenses I have. Me thinks me smells bovine waste material mixed with sour grapes. Either that or the competition is right and Sony have bypassed the problems by employing wizards.
 
The rumor site reports that Sony will add a top lcd to future models if customers want it.

Who wants one?

I couldn't give a flying. I haven't had one since my Canon days and I don't miss them.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Nor am I, but we all know the EOS mount has a wider mount too and a similar flange distance yet Nikon got it to work (mostly), except they couldn't make AF F/1.0 lenses with the F-Mount and with the new 55/0.95 being MF and not AF, they still can't…

I dunno, I guess it's all meaningless, all it matters is what lenses you bring out.

My point was that not that long ago Nikon users were all going about diameter is not a problem or make no difference, I mean if the wider mount do make a difference, it would be a bit pointless if they don't come out with some lenses like 28-70/2.0 or 50/1.2 AF out of the block to make their point, wouldn't it? :D

Leica better bring out some AF F/1.0 lenses or it's just all talk.
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Leica don't make good cameras though, just cameras that have been polished a lot.
 
nandbytes said:
I don't think anyone is debating whether it works or not. I think they are saying it's easier* to design lenses for larger mounts.

*What "easier" exactly means is a bit dubious tbh, could mean more compact lens or lenses with less corrections hence glass elements i.e. permitting simpler design lenses.

Then again look at FE55 I can't really see canikon making a lens that's sharper and/or smaller.

It's all very dubious, we haven't had any credible optic engineers comment on it to fully understand the issue.
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Here is a Nikon Optical Engineer explaining the need and consequences of the larger lens mount and shorter flange distance with Nikon mirrorless cameras. While he may not be unbiased, he is an Optical Engineer. ;) Time will tell whether Nikon can do things with this larger mount and shorter flange distance that others may not be able to do. Btw, I was very impressed by his drawing in reverse as well as his presentation. :D
View: https://youtu.be/LxT17A40d50
 
woof woof said:
All this lens mount size stuff is all a bit baffling. The Sony system obviously works with f1.2 and wider lenses and works with FF lenses from Sony / Zeiss and a host of others and with all the legacy lenses I have. Me thinks me smells bovine waste material mixed with sour grapes. Either that or the competition is right and Sony have bypassed the problems by employing wizards.
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I don't think Nikon would take the risk of changing to a whole new mount if they didn't think it was needed for various optical reasons to improve the lenses they can now make.
woof woof said:
The rumor site reports that Sony will add a top lcd to future models if customers want it.

Who wants one?

I couldn't give a flying. I haven't had one since my Canon days and I don't miss them.
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And if most people think the same as you then it probably won't happen. ;) But maybe, if they do put it one new cameras in the future many others will have probably indicated through Sony surveying that they did give a flying... ;) :LOL:
 
woof woof said:
The rumor site reports that Sony will add a top lcd to future models if customers want it.

Who wants one?

I couldn't give a flying. I haven't had one since my Canon days and I don't miss them.
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Meh don't care. It's unnecessary. Had it on my a-mount cameras and I never needed it.
 
redhed17 said:
I don't think Nikon would take the risk of changing to a whole new mount if they didn't think it was needed for various optical reasons to improve the lenses they can now make.
And if most people think the same as you then it probably won't happen. ;) But maybe, if they do put it one new cameras in the future many others will have probably indicated through Sony surveying that they did give a flying... ;) :LOL:
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Companies exist to make money and Nikons new mount doubtless has merit and maybe a lot of merit but there could just be some marketing in their too. You only have to have a peak into Fuji land to see how marketing has (IMO and arguably etc) dictated the hardware and see the double speak and spin.

I doubt I'm in a majority over the top display, I think many people would like one and I do understand that it'll show you the settings but for me it'll just be another thing I don't value much if at all. I certainly wouldn't discount a camera without one or go for one with for that reason.
 
redhed17 said:
I don't think Nikon would take the risk of changing to a whole new mount if they didn't think it was needed for various optical reasons to improve the lenses they can now make.
And if most people think the same as you then it probably won't happen. ;) But maybe, if they do put it one new cameras in the future many others will have probably indicated through Sony surveying that they did give a flying... ;) :LOL:
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Nikon changed the mount because they had to reduce the flange distance. Once you remove the mirror there is no real benefit in having such a large flange.
And while they were at it they felt that a large mount diameter was a good thing. Canon obviously felt the same since they made yet another mount!
 
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