The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

ohms12 said:
As you clearly work in Nikon’s marketing department, maybe you could also explain the lack of a 2nd card slot, lack of exposure comp dial or 5fps burst? :p
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We may have ****ed up on the first one, hold on, sorry, I mean XQD cards never fail, and good photographers don't need more that 5fps. ;) :LOL:
 
I think the best defence of the single card slot yet has been a wildlife photographer saying "I've not come across a bear or possum yet who's willing to sue me over some lost images" - loose quote

It'll be mostly wedding photographers who are worrying about the single card slot, I've already seen sports togs say they swap cards in and out as they shoot because they will have runners take cards and go back them up through the shoot
 
Cagey75 said:
I think the best defence of the single card slot yet has been a wildlife photographer saying "I've not come across a bear or possum yet who's willing to sue me over some lost images" - loose quote

It'll be mostly wedding photographers who are worrying about the single card slot, I've already seen sports togs say they swap cards in and out as they shoot because they will have runners take cards and go back them up through the shoot
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Wildlife with Nikon’s AF system - I’m not so sure. Sports with 5fps - no chance. Wedding togs and no 2nd card slot.

Exactly who is this camera made for? [emoji23]
 
redhed17 said:
The same people the a7 and a7R were for. ;)
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If it were 2013, your argument would be valid. Only it’s 2018 and Sony have moved the goalposts. I honestly feel like Nikon gimp their own systems on purpose, it’s the main reason why I left! The only reason I’d return would be affordable lenses - but it would seem native Z glass is just as expensive as Sony, so what’s the point.
 
ohms12 said:
Wildlife with Nikon’s AF system - I’m not so sure. Sports with 5fps - no chance. Wedding togs and no 2nd card slot.

Exactly who is this camera made for? [emoji23]
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Just telling you what the pros are saying when 'previewing' it. The whole preview thing is BS, the camera is ready for launch, what these 'early testers' have, is the launch model, there won't be any clean ups in between. Those cameras they're all being hush about, and acting like they are pre-production, are exactly what early adopter buyers will get.
 
ohms12 said:
If it were 2013, your argument would be valid. Only it’s 2018 and Sony have moved the goalposts. I honestly feel like Nikon gimp their own systems on purpose, it’s the main reason why I left! The only reason I’d return would be affordable lenses - but it would seem native Z glass is just as expensive as Sony, so what’s the point.
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I think you will be staying with Sony then. ;)

The Z mount seems to have been a choice to allow higher quality lenses, with the shorter flange distance said to improve corner to corner sharpness. You generally pay what lenses are worth, with maybe the exception of the 18-200/300mm type large zooms, so if these lenses far are very good, they will be worth the money.

Time will tell if these Nikon lenses are worth the money though, and then how well they sell. If both are positive I doubt you will see many 'affordable/cheap' lenses on the Z mount from Nikon. If Nikon are going after the mid to high value end of the market they better have the quality to back it up, and if they do, then no cheap lenses. Of the primes, the f1.8's are normally the affordable lenses, not so with Nikon this time. Imagine the price of f1.4's, f1.2's if they go there. :eek: :LOL: Only if the Z mount cameras are a success may you see third party lenses for it, and even then Sigma seem to be aiming mid to high too with their lenses, so that leaves the other manufacturers who generally may have had one or two stand out lenses in their ranges for DSLR's, but generally meh. Entry level stuff. Tamron and Tokina seem to be not getting into E Mount that much, and I would expect the same for the Z Mount for a few years. Just my opinion of course. :)
 
woof woof said:
For me...
A compact 20mm f1.8/2.
A compact 24mm f1.8/2.
A compact 35mm f1.8. Get on with it Sony!
A decent 50mm f2.8 macro.
And if I was going mad a 150mm f2.8 macro.
I think they already do a wide zoom. I liked my Sigma 12-24mm.

I'm still impressed with the 85mm f1.8 :D
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I'd be happy with an180/200mm f2.8 loxia
 
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I was using my most annoying lens (because it is difficult to achieve really good results cos I'm such an amateur as you will see) yet that I simply love to use. The trioplan 100 works easily outside in the sun And the pup, well she's a tiny active thing and only static when curled up in her bed

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CharleyBird said:
I was using my most annoying lens (because it is difficult to achieve really good results cos I'm such an amateur as you will see) yet that I simply love to use. The trioplan 100 works easily outside in the sun And the pup, well she's a tiny active thing and only static when curled up in her bed

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Bottom shot looks like he’s about to ask “ can I eat it now boss?”
 
New XQD cards announced by Delkin and Nikon. I am kinda glad Sony don't use these. Just spent a fortune in 4x UHS-II cards. These XQD makes those look cheap lol.
 
Just as I predicted using the same D850 batteries would make for sucky battery life in their mirrorless body. Sony's fz100 is lot more powerful.
Sony is pretty good in battery front in terms of tech. They seem manage to squeeze in lot of juice in a smaller area. The old np-fw50 were nice and small with a fair amount of juice.

Anyway, I have made to my mind now, can't afford the Nikon Z. XQD cards, new spare batteries, a new LR subscription will all add too much excess. Hopefully things will be better by 2nd Gen Nikon bodies and there'll be more of a used market for it.
 
Could some one with A7III tell me if they find their AF equally snappy at edges of the frame?

It seems slower on my A7RIII which I think is because PDAF are only covers around 60% if the frame so it uses only CDAF outside it and hence slower.

Not a huge deal but I notice yesterday with eyeAF was really snappy when my child was inside the area at start but if I started with him falling outside the area it took sometime to find him. I am hoping to confirm A7III doesn't have this limitation?
 
Andy82 said:
I don't have any yet. I'm looking for options that people have tried and tested. Cheers.
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As much as it sucks its probably better to dish out the extra for original. I bought my 2 spare batteries from a forum member which saved me some money. I am sure you will be able to find chargers and batteries if you look.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I love my Wotancraft Ryker but that is fugly.
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I thought of you as I read that piece.

I had a BIG bag for my DSLR stuff but I can't remember ever taking it out with me. I used to keep stuff in it at home and take it out but leave it in the back of the car and take what I wanted in a smaller bag :D

I still haven't decided what to do about a bag, buy a Ryker or have one made or just not bother.
 
What’s the learning curve on the new Sony from canon? Thinking of starting the switching process to a 7r3 from 10 years with canon
 
meduk1 said:
What’s the learning curve on the new Sony from canon? Thinking of starting the switching process to a 7r3 from 10 years with canon
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White balance, and saturation of the files SOOC in RAW is slightly different.

I also find you need to up the exposure even though it looked right in the EVF.
 
woof woof said:
I thought of you as I read that piece.

I had a BIG bag for my DSLR stuff but I can't remember ever taking it out with me. I used to keep stuff in it at home and take it out but leave it in the back of the car and take what I wanted in a smaller bag :D

I still haven't decided what to do about a bag, buy a Ryker or have one made or just not bother.
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I don’t like backpacks that holds a LOT of gear because I have one like that, a Crumpler Italian connection and that holds 2 bodies, about 5 lenses and a laptop and when it’s full I find it far too heavy to carry it all day. If I’m just taking it to and from the car then it’s fine but a rollie like a thinktank is just easier to move around.

So that bag is in the shed, my other backpack is has only a small padded compartment for camera which holds only 1 body and 2 lenses, I like that limitation and stops me carrying too much. Took that to Japan with me. It’s a better all day backpack than these huge size ones.

I also doubt the Crumpler will be less durable than the Wotancraft because I have another Crumpler that I’ve been using for 10 years at weddings and they honestly do not have any tear or marks on it.
 
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I wouldn't buy a Wotancraft expecting out door durability, to me it would just be a nice thing :D Actually I have a Billingham which is quite nice, it's the second I've had and I haven't used either as I tend to prefer something more anonymous. My Lowepro bags have taken a lot of out door use in their stride and apart from some staining on one they're still perfectly fine.
 
woof woof said:
I wouldn't buy a Wotancraft expecting out door durability, to me it would just be a nice thing :D Actually I have a Billingham which is quite nice, it's the second I've had and I haven't used either as I tend to prefer something more anonymous. My Lowepro bags have taken a lot of out door use in their stride and apart from some staining on one they're still perfectly fine.
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That's why this large backpack don't make sense to me, any bag of this kind would be for long trips and unpredictable conditions would come hand in hand so I rather get a bag that is designed more like stuff you see in the Army than Prada.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I also find you need to up the exposure even though it looked right in the EVF.
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I'm sorry, but you must be doing something wrong. :thinking: Every review, every owner bar you apparently, says one of the advantage of the mirrorless and the EVF is wysiwyg! No exposure or white balance problems because you can see them in the viewfinder! :rolleyes: ;) :LOL:
 
redhed17 said:
I'm sorry, but you must be doing something wrong. :thinking: Every review, every owner bar you apparently, says one of the advantage of the mirrorless and the EVF is wysiwyg! No exposure or white balance problems because you can see them in the viewfinder! :rolleyes: ;) :LOL:
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I don't find it as extreme as him but i am always upping the exposure, I do it with all cameras but I am finding myself doing it more than I did with the Canon.

 
redhed17 said:
I think you will be staying with Sony then. ;)

The Z mount seems to have been a choice to allow higher quality lenses, with the shorter flange distance said to improve corner to corner sharpness. You generally pay what lenses are worth, with maybe the exception of the 18-200/300mm type large zooms, so if these lenses far are very good, they will be worth the money.

Time will tell if these Nikon lenses are worth the money though, and then how well they sell. If both are positive I doubt you will see many 'affordable/cheap' lenses on the Z mount from Nikon. If Nikon are going after the mid to high value end of the market they better have the quality to back it up, and if they do, then no cheap lenses. Of the primes, the f1.8's are normally the affordable lenses, not so with Nikon this time. Imagine the price of f1.4's, f1.2's if they go there. :eek: :LOL: Only if the Z mount cameras are a success may you see third party lenses for it, and even then Sigma seem to be aiming mid to high too with their lenses, so that leaves the other manufacturers who generally may have had one or two stand out lenses in their ranges for DSLR's, but generally meh. Entry level stuff. Tamron and Tokina seem to be not getting into E Mount that much, and I would expect the same for the Z Mount for a few years. Just my opinion of course. :)
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Fair point about the higher quality lenses - guess we'll see how the reviews come out with regards to those. But who's buying the 58mm lens @ $6,000? If they're going truly high end, then why not make a camera that matches the specs of the lenses they're releasing? And in comparison, it's not like the Sony offerings are in any way poor, are they? (look at the top 10 rated lenses of any camera on DxO for example, you'll find 3 Sony lenses, 5 Zeiss and 2 Sigma and no Nikon to be found...). Only Sony have the GM for those who need it, as well as the slightly more affordable & third party lenses to those who don't need the burden of that extra weight or 1% of quality.

From a pure marketing point of view, I just don't understand Nikon's angle with this one.
 
Nikons marketing seems to be going down the same road as Fuji's... claim everything is new and shiny and didn't exist before you invented it and make outlandish claims about your gears performance as if no one would have the temerity to bring the competition into the discussion or in any way question anything you say.

There's nothing wrong with doing that if your conscience doesn't bother you and more importantly - you get away with it.
 
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woof woof said:
Nikons marketing seems to be going down the same road as Fuji's... claim everything is new and shiny and didn't exist before you invented it and make outlandish claims about your gears performance as if no one would have the temerity to bring the competition into the discussion or in any way question anything you say.
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I found this with the B&H Nikon conference, bloody hilarious and embarrassing. Did you watch it?
 
I haven't had time to follow much of what's been going on. I might be able to spend an hour or so on line viewing things this coming week but I gather from what people are saying on this forum that rose tinted glasses have been liberally handed out to bloggers and reviewers.
 
woof woof said:
But you've made her top purple Twist and her trousers aren't right either and her skin looks unnatural in yours too so one click clearly doesn't do it. The shot isn't auto WB BTW, it's fiddled with for effect.

The shot may not be perfect but it's good enough for purpose (sending electronically to her mam) and if and when it gets printed I'll adjust it for best effect then.
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Is your monitor calibrated?
 
So which is best option for a 35mm lens for Sony for photography not interested in video?
 
Cagey75 said:
I think the best defence of the single card slot yet has been a wildlife photographer saying "I've not come across a bear or possum yet who's willing to sue me over some lost images" - loose quote

It'll be mostly wedding photographers who are worrying about the single card slot, I've already seen sports togs say they swap cards in and out as they shoot because they will have runners take cards and go back them up through the shoot
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I only shoot landscapes but after a 2am alarm, 2 hour drive and a 1 hour walk up a hill I will be damned if I lose images due to only using a single card. Used 2 in my D810 and do the same in the A7R3 now.
It's just common bloody sense really.
 
twist said:
Sigma ART 1.4 native ime, Ive used the Zeiss / Samyang / Zeiss 2,8 and Sigma art.
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Have any problems with the Sigma hunting for focus seen it mentioned in a few youtube videos
 
woof woof said:
Nikons marketing seems to be going down the same road as Fuji's... claim everything is new and shiny and didn't exist before you invented it and make outlandish claims about your gears performance as if no one would have the temerity to bring the competition into the discussion or in any way question anything you say.

There's nothing wrong with doing that if your conscience doesn't bother you and more importantly - you get away with it.
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Same as Sony, Canon et all. It's marketing, surprised so many in here take notice of it tbh.
 
f/2.8 said:
Have any problems with the Sigma hunting for focus seen it mentioned in a few youtube videos
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Not really but the Zeiss 1.4 has the fastest AFC then Sigma then Samyang, Sigma has by far the best IQ imo.
 
twist said:
Not really but the Zeiss 1.4 has the fastest AFC then Sigma then Samyang, Sigma has by far the best IQ imo.
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Okey doke just noticed their that Panamoz are over the u.k price for these. :eek:
 
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