The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Riz_Guru said:
I agree to some extent but when the majority of the videos say the same thing, its not hard to figure it out, since I have zero interest in Canon lenses it doesn't matter to me.
Being not far off native is not the same as being native ;)
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Equally, for 90% of uses its more than adequate. I tracked people (with CAF and Eye AF on) walking towards me in the street, multiple times - no issue. I don’t shoot sports, equally that’s not quite what the A7III is built for, hence I see little issue in saving myself thousands of pounds.
 
ohms12 said:
Equally, for 90% of uses its more than adequate. I tracked people (with CAF and Eye AF on) walking towards me in the street, multiple times - no issue. I don’t shoot sports, equally that’s not quite what the A7III is built for, hence I see little issue in saving myself thousands of pounds.
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Your right, everybody has different levels of acceptability etc. :)
 
looks like this lens has full native support inc. "– Camera-based lens unit firmware updates". e-mount allows lenses to be firmware updated via the camera. Not sure why samyang has a dock, like I said they are doing something very wrong :thinking:
 
The rumor site is saying that there's up to 1,000e cashback on Sony gear 1st May in europe, wonder if this'll come to the UK? If anyone is on verge of buying something it may be worth waiting a while to see.
 
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woof woof said:
The rumor site is saying that there's up to 1,000e cashback on Sony gear 1st May in europe, wonder if this'll come to the UK? If anyone is on verge of buying something it may be worth waiting a while to see.
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cool. I am tempted by the 3mm sony 1.4 but then again the sigma one adapted works pefectly on different lighting conditions
 
nandbytes said:
looks like this lens has full native support inc. "– Camera-based lens unit firmware updates". e-mount allows lenses to be firmware updated via the camera. Not sure why samyang has a dock, like I said they are doing something very wrong :thinking:
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The cynic in me suggests that its Samyang's way of getting some extra cash out of you.....

woof woof said:
The rumor site is saying that there's up to 1,000e cashback on Sony gear 1st May in europe, wonder if this'll come to the UK? If anyone is on verge of buying something it may be worth waiting a while to see.
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I'd expect so, looks like the usual cashback amounts (if the Dutch Euro values are translated straight into Pounds)
 
Riz_Guru said:
I agree to some extent but when the majority of the videos say the same thing, its not hard to figure it out, since I have zero interest in Canon lenses it doesn't matter to me.
Being not far off native is not the same as being native ;)
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I have posted tons of video tests and real world images taken on various canon glasses that all prove that it does the job on those scenarios i showed here.

I even showed a sigma 35mm 1.4 focus in darkness in CAF mode

The 85mm 1.2 also performs better on a sony then on a canon body, ie it locks on focus just as fast as in a canon body but has more accurate AF and EYE-AF to boot.

Seriously you and many here would do perfectly fine with adapted glasses.
 
jonneymendoza said:
I have posted tons of video tests and real world images taken on various canon glasses that all prove that it does the job on those scenarios i showed here.

I even showed a sigma 35mm 1.4 focus in darkness in CAF mode

The 85mm 1.2 also performs better on a sony then on a canon body, ie it locks on focus just as fast as in a canon body but has more accurate AF and EYE-AF to boot.

Seriously you and many here would do perfectly fine with adapted glasses.
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Just because something can focus (EVENTUALLY) in lower light it doesn't mean its as good as bloody native!
 
jonneymendoza said:
I have posted tons of video tests and real world images taken on various canon glasses that all prove that it does the job on those scenarios i showed here.

I even showed a sigma 35mm 1.4 focus in darkness in CAF mode

The 85mm 1.2 also performs better on a sony then on a canon body, ie it locks on focus just as fast as in a canon body but has more accurate AF and EYE-AF to boot.

Seriously you and many here would do perfectly fine with adapted glasses.
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Perhaps but I prefer sticking with native lenses without the need to have an additional adapter stuck between the body and lens, thus adding more length and weight to the Canon lenses.

When I bought my Sony 70-200mm f2.8 GM lens, the Canon 70-200mm f2.8 L II was around £2000, add the Sigma MC adaptor for £200 = £2200.
Why would I buy the Canon + Sigma MC option when I bought the GM for not much more? ;)
What is the Canon setup going to give me over the GM?
 
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What are the main factors interesting you guys about the new Tamron 28-75? Is it the combination of the price/size/weight? I know it's cheaper than the Sony 24-105 but that is wider, longer and has optical stabilisation. Or do you think the Tamron would have better IQ than the Sony? (I've never used a Tamron lens before so don't know what they are like)
 
Riz_Guru said:
Perhaps but I prefer sticking with native lenses without the need to have an additional adapter stuck between the body and lens, thus adding more length and weight to the Canon lenses.

When I bought my Sony 70-200mm f2.8 GM lens, the Canon 70-200mm f2.8 L II was around £2000, add the Sigma MC adaptor for £200 = £2200.
Why would I buy the Canon + Sigma MC option when I bought the GM for not much more? ;)
What is the Canon setup going to give me over the GM?
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Loss of selling a canon for the Sony.

Don't forget where speaking from people who own canon glass already.

Also. Many gm lenses are almost the same size as the canon and adapter attached.

I have the Canon 70-200 which performs extremely well and have showed you all the outcome from it and a video..


It's pointless for me to sell the Canon at a loss and spend 2k on the gm for iq that barely any better then the Canon and af performance I'd barely notice?

Maybe if I was a full time sports togger then maybe. But most of us ain't and are hobbiest photographer's who wouldn't be dissatisfied with adapting some lenses.
 
twist said:
Just because something can focus (EVENTUALLY) in lower light it doesn't mean its as good as bloody native!
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The question shouldn't be "is it as good as native" it should be "is it good enough for me." If it's good enough for you who cares if native is a bit or even a lot better.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Loss of selling a canon for the Sony.

Don't forget where speaking from people who own canon glass already.

Also. Many gm lenses are almost the same size as the canon and adapter attached.

I have the Canon 70-200 which performs extremely well and have showed you all the outcome from it and a video..


It's pointless for me to sell the Canon at a loss and spend 2k on the gm for iq that barely any better then the Canon and af performance I'd barely notice?

Maybe if I was a full time sports togger then maybe. But most of us ain't and are hobbiest photographer's who wouldn't be dissatisfied with adapting some lenses.
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Makes perfect sense... but I never had any Canon lenses.. so native was the better option for me. :D
 
Riz_Guru said:
Perhaps but I prefer sticking with native lenses without the need to have an additional adapter stuck between the body and lens, thus adding more length and weight to the Canon lenses.

When I bought my Sony 70-200mm f2.8 GM lens, the Canon 70-200mm f2.8 L II was around £2000, add the Sigma MC adaptor for £200 = £2200.
Why would I buy the Canon + Sigma MC option when I bought the GM for not much more? ;)
What is the Canon setup going to give me over the GM?
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You can buy one used and save yourself £1500. So..
 
ohms12 said:
You can buy one used and save yourself £1500. So..
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Sure, but if you could apply this logic to Sony, I could have bought a used 70-200mm f2.8 GM from this very site for £1450, without then having to spend £100-150 on a used Sigma MC adapter for the Canon? :D
Buy what works best for you.
 
Riz_Guru said:
Sure, but if you could apply this logic to Sony, I could have bought a used 70-200mm f2.8 GM from this very site for £1450, without then having to spend £100-150 on a used Sigma MC adapter for the Canon? :D
Buy what works best for you.
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If u came from canon and already had the 70-200 f2,8 mk2, would u have gotten rid of it if it did the job for u on your A9? Or still get the GM?
 
jonneymendoza said:
If u came from canon and already had the 70-200 f2,8 mk2, would u have gotten rid of it if it did the job for u on your A9? Or still get the GM?
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Me being me, I would probably get rid of it and buy the GM .... I am a native kind of guy.... like things to match and from the same brand.... OCD innit :D
 
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I would say 95% of my shots are done on 35/50/85, especially the 35mm, half my shots in my LR library are of that focal length. The other 5%, due to the infrequency of them, if I need to use them with their maximum performance then I’ll just go with the Canon for that particular shot.


The only exception I can see is the 105/1.4. I plan to shoot mainly portraits with this so Eye-AF is going to be critical, meaning it will make sense to go with the native FE mount. The only reason I think I want an Canon mount is because I like to see it on a Canon sensor, and any portrait work will not really be too much of a challenge for either camera, even via adaptor.


p.s. I have not mentioned this or heard anyone mentioned this. I am personally thanking Sony to make the mount the right way round, twist clockwise to lock, anti-clockwise to unlock, just like Canon, Fuji, Olympus. I remember the first time I picked up a Nikon lens and thought to myself, “what idiot designed this to be purposely backwards, everything else in the world locks down clockwise, stupid stupid mount.”. So thank you Sony for not messing with logic and my head.


*no doubt someone will find an example of something else that locks at anti-clockwise too…that’s stupid too! :p
 
Riz_Guru said:
Sure, but if you could apply this logic to Sony, I could have bought a used 70-200mm f2.8 GM from this very site for £1450, without then having to spend £100-150 on a used Sigma MC adapter for the Canon? :D
Buy what works best for you.
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I’ve been searching for a decently priced, used, 70-200 GM for months. They’re like gold dust. Canon have been selling glass for millennia, man. Loads of great used options.
 
southernjessie said:
What are the main factors interesting you guys about the new Tamron 28-75? Is it the combination of the price/size/weight? I know it's cheaper than the Sony 24-105 but that is wider, longer and has optical stabilisation. Or do you think the Tamron would have better IQ than the Sony? (I've never used a Tamron lens before so don't know what they are like)
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vs. 24-105mm f/4
mainly f2.8 but its nice to have reduced size, weight and price.

vs. 24-70GM
Size, weight and price

I personally don't care for stabilization in general but my body has it anyway. I think its IQ will be better than 24-105mm f4 but not as good as 24-70mm f/2.8 GM (even though they claim it is). But no one knows for sure, its all just speculation.

Tamron make some very good and sharp lenses and they have a long history of making good affordable lenses. It is also rumoured that some of the zeiss batis lenses are actually designed by tamron (eg: batis 85mm). Sony is the second largest shareholder in tamron (10% i think). Sony in past have rebranded few tamron lenses. More recently pentax have rebranded a few tamron lenses.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
I would say 95% of my shots are done on 35/50/85, especially the 35mm, half my shots in my LR library are of that focal length. The other 5%, due to the infrequency of them, if I need to use them with their maximum performance then I’ll just go with the Canon for that particular shot.


The only exception I can see is the 105/1.4. I plan to shoot mainly portraits with this so Eye-AF is going to be critical, meaning it will make sense to go with the native FE mount. The only reason I think I want an Canon mount is because I like to see it on a Canon sensor, and any portrait work will not really be too much of a challenge for either camera, even via adaptor.


p.s. I have not mentioned this or heard anyone mentioned this. I am personally thanking Sony to make the mount the right way round, twist clockwise to lock, anti-clockwise to unlock, just like Canon, Fuji, Olympus. I remember the first time I picked up a Nikon lens and thought to myself, “what idiot designed this to be purposely backwards, everything else in the world locks down clockwise, stupid stupid mount.”. So thank you Sony for not messing with logic and my head.


*no doubt someone will find an example of something else that locks at anti-clockwise too…that’s stupid too! :p
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Lol have you seen there 70-200 nikon? The focus and zoom rings are position reversed ie the zoom ring is at the front and focus on the near lol
 
twist said:
Agreed, but to say its as good as native is just not true.
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:D correct which is what I was originally trying to say, native is best... move along people... nothing to see here :D lol
 
southernjessie said:
What are the main factors interesting you guys about the new Tamron 28-75? Is it the combination of the price/size/weight? I know it's cheaper than the Sony 24-105 but that is wider, longer and has optical stabilisation. Or do you think the Tamron would have better IQ than the Sony? (I've never used a Tamron lens before so don't know what they are like)
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Mainly because there isn't currently any other (affordable) workhorse F2.8 lens for FE. The GM lens very good but it's also £1800. The 24-105 is longer, F4 and still £1200. If the Tamron lens is a solid performer (I used to use their original 17-50 when I shot Canon crop and it was a very good all round lens) I think it will sell very well as lots of people, myself included, have been waiting for a genuine walkabout lens that's a realistic price for the majority of users.
 
shoshone said:
could be of interest to some ...

Ever tried Capture One as RAW converter? The Fuji X Forum has just started a partnership with Phase One – thus we can offer you a 10% voucher code for the brand new Capture One 11.1 update which supports the new Sony A7 III.

Simply enter AMBSAF during the order check-out to save 10%!
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Excellent, thanks for sharing. I am going to test this out, was considering Adobe CC / Afinity Photo.
I don't fancy being forced to go subscription only via the Lightroom route and Afinity Photo doesnt have native catalog support.

Reviews seem positive... here is one....
https://fstoppers.com/originals/capture-one-11-depth-review-208556

I could by Capture One for Sony 11 for 79 euro's! Seems cheap.

Hang one a min....

Capture One Express Sony is an award winning imaging editor for supported Sony cameras that comes with your Sony camera.
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My A7 III didnt come with Capture One Express Sony, did I miss something? :o
 
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Riz_Guru said:
I could by Capture One for Sony 11 for 79 euro's! Seems cheap.
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It has less features than the main package, although I've never looked into the actual differences.

I do like Capture One a lot, I had to abandon Lightroom due to its utterly terrible performance but the latest versions work pretty well so there's less incentive to switch.

I do not like that they force you to buy a new version to get updated raw support though...
 
simonbarker said:
It has less features than the main package, although I've never looked into the actual differences.

I do like Capture One a lot, I had to abandon Lightroom due to its utterly terrible performance but the latest versions work pretty well so there's less incentive to switch.

I do not like that they force you to buy a new version to get updated raw support though...
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from what I understood you get all the features as the pro version but could only use it with Sony RAWs (of course the express free version for sony has less features)
 
nandbytes said:
from what I understood you get all the features as the pro version but could only use it with Sony RAWs (of course the express free version for sony has less features)
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Still, 70 euro's plus 10% discount sounds cheap enough to give it a try. :)
 
nandbytes said:
just get the free version if you want to try it (they probably have a trial version too!)
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Fair point doh :D
Time to start looking at a new MacBook Pro, hoping to grab a 2015 model before Apple discontinues them.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I would say 95% of my shots are done on 35/50/85, especially the 35mm, half my shots in my LR library are of that focal length. The other 5%, due to the infrequency of them, if I need to use them with their maximum performance then I’ll just go with the Canon for that particular shot.


The only exception I can see is the 105/1.4. I plan to shoot mainly portraits with this so Eye-AF is going to be critical, meaning it will make sense to go with the native FE mount. The only reason I think I want an Canon mount is because I like to see it on a Canon sensor, and any portrait work will not really be too much of a challenge for either camera, even via adaptor.


p.s. I have not mentioned this or heard anyone mentioned this. I am personally thanking Sony to make the mount the right way round, twist clockwise to lock, anti-clockwise to unlock, just like Canon, Fuji, Olympus. I remember the first time I picked up a Nikon lens and thought to myself, “what idiot designed this to be purposely backwards, everything else in the world locks down clockwise, stupid stupid mount.”. So thank you Sony for not messing with logic and my head.


*no doubt someone will find an example of something else that locks at anti-clockwise too…that’s stupid too! :p
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I have always been a fan of 50mm focal length, but I do find it quite limiting if just wanting to take out 1 prime as its sometimes a bit long!

I need to actually give 35mm a proper go - I usually buy one then give up pretty quickly lol!
 
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