The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

ohms12 said:
Would be nice if it came in at that price. But then the question would be - the Tamron, or a used Canon L lens for a little more?
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Tamron for me, full native support with eye AF beats adapter :)

Also tamron is claiming is GM quality so it may be as good as canon L lens.
 
twist said:
The Canon is better than the GM? I wouldve thought they are very similar.

Adapted lenses just dont perform like native when the light goes.
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Not sure, actually - haven’t seen any side by side comparisons. Equally I haven’t seen any proper reviews on the Tamron yet, so I’m reserving judgement on that. If it’s truly as good as the GM it’s a no brainier, sure.
 
ohms12 said:
Would be nice if it came in at that price. But then the question would be - the Tamron, or a used Canon L lens for a little more?
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What's the alternative? Price range and function it's probably a used EF 24-70mm f/2.8 mkI or a FE 24-105mm f/4, I've got to assume it's a better performer than either of those (or at least close to the FE) and being native is always easier to live with, then add in its relatively small size (a little long but not too tubby) and weight (even when compared to an f/4) and it would appear to tick a lot of boxes.

So I'm optimistic; more choices, more people using the system, more used copies floating about is all to my benefit.
 
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At a glance I thought Sony had released a lens dock ! Silly Facebook ads!

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woof woof said:
I might end up getting one. I've still got the hope that someone will make me a nice bag from my old leather jackets as that'll keep the memory alive and in use but no one seems interested in taking my money :( There are sometimes bag makers at the local agricultural show in the summer and if there are any this year I'll ask and if not I'll probably give up and get a Wotancraft.
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Mia Sabel, she'll makes you a bag.
She'll help you design it, and make it to fit. And it will cost at least as much as ONO or Wothowmuchcraft :)

http://www.sabelsaddlery.co.uk/home.html
See the Bags and Cases page, gallery pictures, page three for my telescope case. Also buy my belts from her.
 
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T_J_G said:
So @twist how you getting on with yours?
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Weekend was lens testing so didn't do anything proper. Quite annoyed. Don't have time during the week. So far impressions are good, it's an expensive move for no real difference in image quality though. I need some quality time with it. Eye af still isn't foolproof like some would have you believe.

Not head over heels with it.... hopefully that will come.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Yea it works like native
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It doesn’t work like native lenses, as it doesn’t shoot at 20fps for starters ;)
Adding 3rd party adaptors between the body and lenses is always going result in compromises, size is another compromise.
If you add the price of latest Canon 70-200mm L lens cost then add the latest Sigma adaptor cost.... I’d say it’s pretty close to the Sony 70-200mm GM price @ £2200 approx.
 
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I see a lot of people are using Canon lenses on their Sony's. I take it that an adapter is being used, do you still retain all functions of camera/lens using the adapter?
 
nandbytes said:
First indication on the price for tamron 28-75mm/2.8 - https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-tamron-28-75mm-fe-price-is-94500-yen/

Probably will be around £800-1000 I guess in the UK. I am slowly selling and gathering pennies :D

Alan, you wouldn't be interested in a spare second minolta 45mm f2? :D

Update:
seems to be 8690 Swedish Krona - https://www.cyberphoto.se/info.php?article=2875mk3so
That is like £720 :eek:
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A colleague is off to Hong Kong in a week's time. Keeping fingers crossed that some of the HK dealers will have it up on their websites by then.
 
saul01 said:
A colleague is off to Hong Kong in a week's time. Keeping fingers crossed that some of the HK dealers will have it up on their websites by then.
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Been to Hong Kong lots of times, prices are never good enough to buy over online.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Tests where the camera is on a tripod and the model is static is not that challenging or much of a comparison. I'd like to see something more real, sports, dancing etc.
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It struggled with static so don’t get your hopes up for dancing.
 
saul01 said:
I see a lot of people are using Canon lenses on their Sony's. I take it that an adapter is being used, do you still retain all functions of camera/lens using the adapter?
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Don't bother using adapted on a mk1, might as well manual focus.
 
Riz_Guru said:
It doesn’t work like native lenses, as it doesn’t shoot at 20fps for starters ;)
Adding 3rd party adaptors between the body and lenses is always going result in compromises, size is another compromise.
If you add the price of latest Canon 70-200mm L lens cost then add the latest Sigma adaptor cost.... I’d say it’s pretty close to the Sony 70-200mm GM price @ £2200 approx.
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Half the native lenses don't shoot at 20fps lool
 
CharleyBird said:
Mia Sabel, she'll makes you a bag.
She'll help you design it, and make it to fit. And it will cost at least as much as ONO or Wothowmuchcraft :)

http://www.sabelsaddlery.co.uk/home.html
See the Bags and Cases page, gallery pictures, page three for my telescope case. Also buy my belts from her.
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Thanks for this. I'll email her and see what she says.

I emailed someone similar in my part of the world and never got a reply.
 
simonbarker said:
Why did he compare the Sigma at f/1.4 and the Sony at f/1.8 and sound surprised that the Sony was sharper?
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Optically, most lenses don’t perform at their best wide open. If he’d stopped the Sigma down to 1.8, he’d have had to stop the Sony down to 2/2.2 to give an equivalent test. The fact that the Sony is sharper wide open could be seen as a win for Sony though (even though it’s ‘only’ 1.8 rather than 1.4)
 
Raymond Lin said:
Been to Hong Kong lots of times, prices are never good enough to buy over online.
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They normally go in store and haggle the price that I have already made a deal with via email. A few of my previous lenses were bought like this.
 
stevelmx5 said:
Optically, most lenses don’t perform at their best wide open. If he’d stopped the Sigma down to 1.8, he’d have had to stop the Sony down to 2/2.2 to give an equivalent test. The fact that the Sony is sharper wide open could be seen as a win for Sony though (even though it’s ‘only’ 1.8 rather than 1.4)
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Apologies for the dodgy analogy but that feels a bit like buying a Maserati, flooring it then wondering why it's getting worse fuel economy than a Toyota Yaris...
 
jonneymendoza said:
Half the native lenses don't shoot at 20fps lool
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That’s not really a valid point, find me a Canon body with Canon lenses that shoots 10-20 fps. Add Eye-AF to that, I bet it’s not half as good as the Sony’s if at all

I appreciate a lot of people here have Canon glass and would like/do use them on their Sony bodies, but to have the expectation that it’s as good as native performance is questionable.

I guess some are are happy with their performance but others may not be.

Having watched plenty of videos online regarding adapted lenses AF performance, I’d have to say it’s not like native.

:D
 
Riz_Guru said:
That’s not really a valid point, find me a Canon body with Canon lenses that shoots 10-20 fps. Add Eye-AF to that, I bet it’s not half as good as the Sony’s if at all

I appreciate a lot of people here have Canon glass and would like/do use them on their Sony bodies, but to have the expectation that it’s as good as native performance is questionable.

I guess some are are happy with their performance but others may not be.

Having watched plenty of videos online regarding adapted lenses AF performance, I’d have to say it’s not like native.

:D
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Watching videos does nothing justice. I suggest you try it before completely writing something off. From my experience, it’s not far off native. But I haven’t tried in low light - I guess that could be the downfall. If I can get an extended look at a 70-200 I will, though.
 
Had to shoot a difficult gig last night.. drama award ceremony...

Mixed lights galore, had to use 1/200th mechanical shutter to minimise artificial light banding, the type you'd get on any camera.

Super bright stage light, vs dimly lit audience.
Girls walk from shadow ISO 12,800 to bright light ISO 100, highlight metering was no good, should have tried centre weight - but I was twiddling the exposure compensation dial all evening.

Smoke streams making visibility even worse, plus one actually set off right in front of an award recipient as I managed to find an angle on them.

The girls all receive their awards with their heads bowed down, embarrassed to be up there I guess.

Making my life difficult ladies!

Not to mention a podium in the way, girls getting up in random places so I may not have the best angle on them. Taking awards without looking at the presenter..
 
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ohms12 said:
Watching videos does nothing justice. I suggest you try it before completely writing something off. From my experience, it’s not far off native. But I haven’t tried in low light - I guess that could be the downfall. If I can get an extended look at a 70-200 I will, though.
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I agree to some extent but when the majority of the videos say the same thing, its not hard to figure it out, since I have zero interest in Canon lenses it doesn't matter to me.
Being not far off native is not the same as being native ;)
 
saul01 said:
I see a lot of people are using Canon lenses on their Sony's. I take it that an adapter is being used, do you still retain all functions of camera/lens using the adapter?
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It really depends what your going to be shooting, for a lot of people the functionality/capability of an adapted Canon lens is more than enough for their use, certainly I've never had any issues but I tend to do things that are slower paced like landscapes, travel shooting, etc - not sport.
 
simonbarker said:
Apologies for the dodgy analogy but that feels a bit like buying a Maserati, flooring it then wondering why it's getting worse fuel economy than a Toyota Yaris...
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Dodgy analogy aside, it's a fact for most lenses in that they perform their best stopped down slightly. Of course, the Sony doesn't shoot at 1.4 so if that's your criteria, it's never going to meet it ;)
 
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