The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

snerkler said:
When you compare it to the other Sony models it does seem expensive, however I have no idea on the cost to manufacture a sensor and processor that can give such fast readout times, how much it costs to manufacture zero blackout etc, better build/weather sealing etc etc. I'm sure those things aren't cheap.

It's like the A7Riii vs the A7iii, on the face of it the A7Riii seems expensive, but again I've no idea how much more it costs to build a sensor with nearly twice the MP, the cost of the better EVF and viewfinder, again better build/weather sealing. Maybe when you start taking into account all the little things then the price starts to make a bit more sense? On saying that, the grey prices of the A9 and A7riii make A LOT more sense ;)
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Don't forget the A9 was the first to have the joystick and better battery life
 
T_J_G said:
And I think theyve done the right thing. Imagine what the a9ii will do. May even walk out the cabinet itself and take pics for @Riz_Guru
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Yeah, so do I, they have chucked it all into a very affordable body, they must know Canikon are bringing something to the party soon.


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Waiting for delivery of my a7iii and lens today...it's going to be a loooong day :(

In the meantime, what SD cards are you guys using?
On my Nikon I was using a Sandisk Extreme Pro SDXC I 64gb so I guesss I will need to get a UHS-II.
 
Tom Green said:
Hold your horses. Look at images from the Commonwealth games where you can see all the cameras. How many Sony’s do you see? Look at the images of Ant leaving court yesterday, loads of cameras to be seen in all the images. No Sony.

I do think Sony are producing amazing stuff, and I would love to own another Sony. But they are not yet a top player in professional photography. At least in those two major pro segments.

Reading this forum you’d think no other cameras existed ;). I do think they will get there though.
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... and not a single Hasselblad either.. so Hasselblad can't be pro cameras.
twist said:
Yeah, so do I, they have chucked it all into a very affordable body, they must know Canikon are bringing something to the party soon.


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Yeah, rumours of a Canon 5D Mark 5 in 2022, with 63 autofocus points, 31.6MP and DIGIC 6+++ Image processing :p

And still it will probably will outsell it's competitors from Nikon and Sony :LOL:
 
PauBass said:
Waiting for delivery of my a7iii and lens today...it's going to be a loooong day :(

In the meantime, what SD cards are you guys using?
On my Nikon I was using a Sandisk Extreme Pro SDXC I 64gb so I guesss I will need to get a UHS-II.
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:cool:
 
snerkler said:
When you compare it to the other Sony models it does seem expensive, however I have no idea on the cost to manufacture a sensor and processor that can give such fast readout times, how much it costs to manufacture zero blackout etc, better build/weather sealing etc etc. I'm sure those things aren't cheap.

It's like the A7Riii vs the A7iii, on the face of it the A7Riii seems expensive, but again I've no idea how much more it costs to build a sensor with nearly twice the MP, the cost of the better EVF and viewfinder, again better build/weather sealing. Maybe when you start taking into account all the little things then the price starts to make a bit more sense? On saying that, the grey prices of the A9 and A7riii make A LOT more sense ;)
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Trouble is the high MP does really slow the A7R3 down compared to the A73. If I got on with Sony I would choose the A73 over the A7R3. But thats just what I have concluded from testing the A7R3 alongside my D750 so just assuming would get the same sort of outcome from the A73.
 
JJ! said:
Trouble is the high MP does really slow the A7R3 down compared to the A73. If I got on with Sony I would choose the A73 over the A7R3. But thats just what I have concluded from testing the A7R3 alongside my D750 so just assuming would get the same sort of outcome from the A73.
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slow down in what sense?
 
JJ! said:
Buffer, image review, general low light AF focus. Just found the experiance slow and frustrating!
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Its a trait of the A7R series, the A7R II was the same however you have to remember its having to shift through a lot more data due to the file sizes :)
 
Riz_Guru said:
Its a trait of the A7R series, the A7R II was the same however you have to remember its having to shift through a lot more data due to the file sizes :)
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Yep very true! A73 is probably a much better allrounder if you can get one! My mate has one on pre-order from Amazon which said 11th April release - now its says 2 months lol!
 
JJ! said:
Buffer, image review, general low light AF focus. Just found the experiance slow and frustrating!
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Buffer and image review is annoying, true.

Low light AF on A7RII is fairly decent with fast lenses. I wouldn't says its as good as D750 but I found its the first Sony mirrorless body with reliable decent AF-C and low-light AF performance. So I'd imagine A7R3 is only better...
 
nandbytes said:
Buffer and image review is annoying, true.

Low light AF on A7RII is fairly decent with fast lenses. I wouldn't says its as good as D750 but I found its the first Sony mirrorless body with reliable decent AF-C and low-light AF performance. So I'd imagine A7R3 is only better...
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Correct..... Sony got their bodies right in terms of pricing and segmentation etc..... great choice for people! :)
 
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A7II v III noise comparison...

https://admiringlight.com/blog/sony-a7-iii-vs-a7-ii-noise-comparison/

"Conclusion
The A7 III is a very interesting camera release from Sony, and a solid upgrade from the A7 II in many ways, which I will go into depth in my review. One of those upgrades is low-light sensor performance, and it definitely plays out in this test. The A7 III is a bit better at medium ISOs, and around 2/3 of a stop to 1 stop better at higher ISOs, with the lead expanding as you get into extreme settings. This isn’t a revolutionary change, but given the high quality of the A7 II, it’s a very nice upgrade, and makes the A7 III a better camera for lower light shooting. Be sure to come back for my full in-depth review of the A7 III in the next week or two!"

That's nice :D
 
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nandbytes said:
Buffer and image review is annoying, true.

Low light AF on A7RII is fairly decent with fast lenses. I wouldn't says its as good as D750 but I found its the first Sony mirrorless body with reliable decent AF-C and low-light AF performance. So I'd imagine A7R3 is only better...
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I have been using the A7R3 with 70-200 2.8 and Nikon D750 with 70-200 2.8e and the D750 is definatly ahead when it comes to initial focus and tracking. But the 2.8e is a step up speed wise from the VRII so probably makes a difference too.

The A73 is probably a better camera from anything CAF/sports related due to the MP (if you cant high roll it with an A9 lol).

I is a shame however that I did not enjoy Sony handling (without a grip) or Sony Menus!
 
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woof woof said:
A7II v III noise comparison...

https://admiringlight.com/blog/sony-a7-iii-vs-a7-ii-noise-comparison/

"Conclusion
The A7 III is a very interesting camera release from Sony, and a solid upgrade from the A7 II in many ways, which I will go into depth in my review. One of those upgrades is low-light sensor performance, and it definitely plays out in this test. The A7 III is a bit better at medium ISOs, and around 2/3 of a stop to 1 stop better at higher ISOs, with the lead expanding as you get into extreme settings. This isn’t a revolutionary change, but given the high quality of the A7 II, it’s a very nice upgrade, and makes the A7 III a better camera for lower light shooting. Be sure to come back for my full in-depth review of the A7 III in the next week or two!"

That's nice :D
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Yes, impressive, looks about 1 1/2 stops better than the original A7.

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JJ! said:
I have been using the A7R3 with 70-200 2.8 and Nikon D750 with 70-200 2.8e and the D750 is definatly ahead when it comes to initial focus and tracking. But the 2.8e is a step up speed wise from the VRII so probably makes a difference too.

The A73 is probably a better camera from anything CAF/sports related due to the MP (if you cant high roll it with an A9 lol).

I is a shame however that I did not enjoy Sony handling (without a grip) or Sony Menus!
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I thought you didnt get an A7r3?
 
twist said:
@snerkler Should've bought an A7riii
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Tried it, too many negatives for me (y)

JJ! said:
Trouble is the high MP does really slow the A7R3 down compared to the A73. If I got on with Sony I would choose the A73 over the A7R3. But thats just what I have concluded from testing the A7R3 alongside my D750 so just assuming would get the same sort of outcome from the A73.
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JJ! said:
Buffer, image review, general low light AF focus. Just found the experiance slow and frustrating!
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Most reviews from people that have both say in the real world the AF performance between the A7Riii and A7iii are pretty much identical. Of course, I haven't tried the A7iii to be able to confirm.
 
snerkler said:
Most reviews from people that have both say in the real world the AF performance between the A7Riii and A7iii are pretty much identical. Of course, I haven't tried the A7iii to be able to confirm.
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even if they are identical A7III will have a better frame coverage which would make it better ;)
 
nandbytes said:
even if they are identical A7III will have a better frame coverage which would make it better ;)
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Yeah, if you need to compose your subject against the edge of the frame for some reason then I guess so ;)
 
There's already an A7III firmware update, for blinking pixels and other things...

The rumor site...

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-firmware-update-for-the-sony-a7iii/#disqus_thread

They say...

"Benefits and improvements
– Resolves a “blinking pixels” phenomenon at the bottom edge of the image during XAVC S 4K (PAL 25p) recording (depending on the combination of camera settings)
– Resolves an issue where the touch panel could occasionally become unresponsive
– Improves the overall stability of the camera"

That's nice :D
 
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Diamonddec said:
Apparently Panamoz expect stock of the A73 "in about a fortnight with pricing being between £1800-£1900"
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Makes sense the price won't be low, to much demand, I saw HK price is £1650, and US is £1550 inc 10% sales tax. The greys Ive seen come in at between £1800 and £2300.

The Wilkinson deal was a no brainer considering its UK stock and came with additional 3yr warranty.
 
woof woof said:
There's already an A7III firmware update, for blinking pixels and other things...

The rumor site...

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-firmware-update-for-the-sony-a7iii/#disqus_thread

They say...

"Benefits and improvements
– Resolves a “blinking pixels” phenomenon at the bottom edge of the image during XAVC S 4K (PAL 25p) recording (depending on the combination of camera settings)
– Resolves an issue where the touch panel could occasionally become unresponsive
– Improves the overall stability of the camera"

That's nice :D
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Nice, thanks woof. 1 of 2 issues sorted by FW update already. Seems Sonys on the case!
 
woof woof said:
There's already an A7III firmware update, for blinking pixels and other things...

The rumor site...

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-firmware-update-for-the-sony-a7iii/#disqus_thread

They say...

"Benefits and improvements
– Resolves a “blinking pixels” phenomenon at the bottom edge of the image during XAVC S 4K (PAL 25p) recording (depending on the combination of camera settings)
– Resolves an issue where the touch panel could occasionally become unresponsive
– Improves the overall stability of the camera"

That's nice :D
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That's cool, I've got no issue with them recognising a potential issue and rectifying it. Would be nice if they made a comment about the striping, but maybe they will when they figure it out (y)
 
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