The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Just been trying out some 84-85mb sample RAWs from the A7riii and I'm amazed at how quickly it loaded into Lightroom. I expected it to get bogged down, but I imported 15 images and it took no time at all, and I build 1:1's on import. Another potential issue is actually a none issue for me (y)
 
snerkler said:
Just been trying out some 84-85mb sample RAWs from the A7riii and I'm amazed at how quickly it loaded into Lightroom. I expected it to get bogged down, but I imported 15 images and it took no time at all, and I build 1:1's on import. Another potential issue is actually a none issue for me (y)
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Toby, if you are not an evf fan would it not be better to get the D850 and use you existing Nikon glass?
 
addicknchips said:
Toby, if you are not an evf fan would it not be better to get the D850 and use you existing Nikon glass?
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I've never said that I'm not an EVF fan just that I prefer the look of looking through optics, but I also said that I like some of the advantages of EVFs.

It is a bit of a 'dilemma' tbh. Yes I could stick with what I have in. the D750 and EM1, and I've been really happy with them. No they're not perfect, and I do find the AF spread of the D750 limiting at times, but at the end of the day both are cracking cameras.

I do admit that I have an itch though, and I do like trying new stuff. I know that it won't improve my images, but it's sometimes nice to have something new and different to play with ;) I've been back and forth with both the A7Riii and D850. The A7Riii would allow me to have a one camera setup, will deliver stellar IQ and 'should' be good enough in terms of AF. I'm hoping that it will lighten the load in certain situations due to the extra res and cropping, so I could use a 100-400mm instead of my current 150-600mm for example. The only possible negatives that I can foresee is the balance with larger lenses (and the effect the shallower grip has on this too), but not having had the chance to try this I can't comment for sure. And of course whether AF is truly good enough.

I could get the D850, and when this first got announced it was a camera that I seriously wanted. However, as I've mentioned previously I've been using my EM1 more of late (due to holidays) and have really enjoyed using it over the D750. Now I know that the A7Riii isn't as nice as the EM1 ergonomically, but if it's not far off and for general stuff the weight isn't too dissimilar then the A7riii is appealing, and the D850 less so. The other negatives of the D850 are the price of the XQD cards, they are very expensive. I know that the Nikon has the advantage of lossless compression so I wouldn't need as much storage on the XQD cards, but 64GB xqd card is £110, vs £36 for a 64gb Sandisk Extreme Pro CD card. Also, I'm unsure of the future of XQD cards. The other disadvantage of the D850 is that I would still need a two camera setup, meaning that I wouldn't have FF for travel. Advantages of the D850 over what I have now is the high res for cropping, stellar IQ, wider AF spread and better buffer. Oh just thought of another disadvantage of the D850, the grip is £350 (similar for the Sony one although I'm sure there's 3rd party ones for each) and then you need the charger at £190 and the batteries at £170 each if you want to get the full frame rate from it :eek:

So there you have it, that's my full thought processes at the moment. I am seriously leaning towards the Sony at the moment due to having FF for everything, the possibility of having a lighter package at times, and scratching the itch at trying a new system ;)
 
snerkler said:
I've never said that I'm not an EVF fan just that I prefer the look of looking through optics, but I also said that I like some of the advantages of EVFs.

It is a bit of a 'dilemma' tbh. Yes I could stick with what I have in. the D750 and EM1, and I've been really happy with them. No they're not perfect, and I do find the AF spread of the D750 limiting at times, but at the end of the day both are cracking cameras.

I do admit that I have an itch though, and I do like trying new stuff. I know that it won't improve my images, but it's sometimes nice to have something new and different to play with ;) I've been back and forth with both the A7Riii and D850. The A7Riii would allow me to have a one camera setup, will deliver stellar IQ and 'should' be good enough in terms of AF. I'm hoping that it will lighten the load in certain situations due to the extra res and cropping, so I could use a 100-400mm instead of my current 150-600mm for example. The only possible negatives that I can foresee is the balance with larger lenses (and the effect the shallower grip has on this too), but not having had the chance to try this I can't comment for sure. And of course whether AF is truly good enough.

I could get the D850, and when this first got announced it was a camera that I seriously wanted. However, as I've mentioned previously I've been using my EM1 more of late (due to holidays) and have really enjoyed using it over the D750. Now I know that the A7Riii isn't as nice as the EM1 ergonomically, but if it's not far off and for general stuff the weight isn't too dissimilar then the A7riii is appealing, and the D850 less so. The other negatives of the D850 are the price of the XQD cards, they are very expensive. I know that the Nikon has the advantage of lossless compression so I wouldn't need as much storage on the XQD cards, but 64GB xqd card is £110, vs £36 for a 64gb Sandisk Extreme Pro CD card. Also, I'm unsure of the future of XQD cards. The other disadvantage of the D850 is that I would still need a two camera setup, meaning that I wouldn't have FF for travel. Advantages of the D850 over what I have now is the high res for cropping, stellar IQ, wider AF spread and better buffer. Oh just thought of another disadvantage of the D850, the grip is £350 (similar for the Sony one although I'm sure there's 3rd party ones for each) and then you need the charger at £190 and the batteries at £170 each if you want to get the full frame rate from it :eek:

So there you have it, that's my full thought processes at the moment. I am seriously leaning towards the Sony at the moment due to having FF for everything, the possibility of having a lighter package at times, and scratching the itch at trying a new system ;)
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Cool. As you were.
 
Photokina is only just over 5 months away. I expect we will have details of Nikon FF mirrorless by then.
I’m impressed by the Sony’s but will and see what Photokina brings.
 
snerkler said:
I've never said that I'm not an EVF fan just that I prefer the look of looking through optics, but I also said that I like some of the advantages of EVFs.

It is a bit of a 'dilemma' tbh. Yes I could stick with what I have in. the D750 and EM1, and I've been really happy with them. No they're not perfect, and I do find the AF spread of the D750 limiting at times, but at the end of the day both are cracking cameras.

I do admit that I have an itch though, and I do like trying new stuff. I know that it won't improve my images, but it's sometimes nice to have something new and different to play with ;) I've been back and forth with both the A7Riii and D850. The A7Riii would allow me to have a one camera setup, will deliver stellar IQ and 'should' be good enough in terms of AF. I'm hoping that it will lighten the load in certain situations due to the extra res and cropping, so I could use a 100-400mm instead of my current 150-600mm for example. The only possible negatives that I can foresee is the balance with larger lenses (and the effect the shallower grip has on this too), but not having had the chance to try this I can't comment for sure. And of course whether AF is truly good enough.

I could get the D850, and when this first got announced it was a camera that I seriously wanted. However, as I've mentioned previously I've been using my EM1 more of late (due to holidays) and have really enjoyed using it over the D750. Now I know that the A7Riii isn't as nice as the EM1 ergonomically, but if it's not far off and for general stuff the weight isn't too dissimilar then the A7riii is appealing, and the D850 less so. The other negatives of the D850 are the price of the XQD cards, they are very expensive. I know that the Nikon has the advantage of lossless compression so I wouldn't need as much storage on the XQD cards, but 64GB xqd card is £110, vs £36 for a 64gb Sandisk Extreme Pro CD card. Also, I'm unsure of the future of XQD cards. The other disadvantage of the D850 is that I would still need a two camera setup, meaning that I wouldn't have FF for travel. Advantages of the D850 over what I have now is the high res for cropping, stellar IQ, wider AF spread and better buffer. Oh just thought of another disadvantage of the D850, the grip is £350 (similar for the Sony one although I'm sure there's 3rd party ones for each) and then you need the charger at £190 and the batteries at £170 each if you want to get the full frame rate from it :eek:

So there you have it, that's my full thought processes at the moment. I am seriously leaning towards the Sony at the moment due to having FF for everything, the possibility of having a lighter package at times, and scratching the itch at trying a new system ;)
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So to sum it up.your ordering a a7r3
 
JJ! said:
Check a few pages back. I’m waiting for my PayPal balance to be un-held!
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Saw that so you going for the A7r3 without trying one first?
 
JJ! said:
Trying tomorrow my friend!
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Take your time pal lol well suppose you have..

Are you going to try the A7iii too along side it?
 
Sooooo anyone with a 90mm FE, how noisy are they supposed to be?

The focus noise isn't so terrible (although on such an expensive lens I was expecting better) but the high pitch whine is hard to ignore, I assume it's a fault rather than just me being ocd about it?
 
Is this the Macro lens as it what on my shopping list next
 
rookies said:
Take your time pal lol well suppose you have..

Are you going to try the A7iii too along side it?
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Nope. None of them left anywhere! Plus I have tried that one. If I like it I will contact Panamoz and arrange my discount and wait for my parcel!
 
arthurbikemad said:
You can link it on the a9 and set the size (I think), but no where does it say what the sizes are? I've not read up on the other models, perhaps someone knows?
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I asked about this a week or so ago and didn't get any answers... Is the A9 the only current A7/9 camera that you can link the spot metering to the focus point with?

With my A7 spot metering is just in the centre or at least I can't see way way to move it but with being able to see the exposure in the EVF it isn't that much of an issue if the subject either with or without magnification is big enough in the frame as you can see it and add compensation as required but being able to have spot metering linked to the focus point (as it is with my Panny camera) could be a nice option.
 
JJ! said:
Nope. None of them left anywhere! Plus I have tried that one. If I like it I will contact Panamoz and arrange my discount and wait for my parcel!
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What didn't you like about the A7iii what confuse me if you didn't like that how you going like the A7riii :P
 
woof woof said:
I asked about this a week or so ago and didn't get any answers... Is the A9 the only current A7/9 camera that you can link the spot metering to the focus point with?

With my A7 spot metering is just in the centre or at least I can't see way way to move it but with being able to see the exposure in the EVF it isn't that much of an issue if the subject either with or without magnification is big enough in the frame as you can see it and add compensation as required but being able to have spot metering linked to the focus point (as it is with my Panny camera) could be a nice option.
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It's been possible since the a7rii... edit face and eye does, not af point.
 
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@woof woof cool so this is taken from the a7iii info...

Tip: When [Spot] is selected and [Focus Area] is set to either [Flexible Spot] or [Expand Flexible Spot] while [Spot Metering Point] is set to [Focus Point Link], the spot metering point can be coordinated with the focus area.
 
simonbarker said:
Sooooo anyone with a 90mm FE, how noisy are they supposed to be?

The focus noise isn't so terrible (although on such an expensive lens I was expecting better) but the high pitch whine is hard to ignore, I assume it's a fault rather than just me being ocd about it?
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If my ear is more than 1 foot from the lens I hear nothing. Close to the lens there is a very quiet whir. No high pitched whine.
 
woof woof said:
I asked about this a week or so ago and didn't get any answers... Is the A9 the only current A7/9 camera that you can link the spot metering to the focus point with?

With my A7 spot metering is just in the centre or at least I can't see way way to move it but with being able to see the exposure in the EVF it isn't that much of an issue if the subject either with or without magnification is big enough in the frame as you can see it and add compensation as required but being able to have spot metering linked to the focus point (as it is with my Panny camera) could be a nice option.
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Let me try on my a7r3.brb
 
rookies said:
Is this the Macro lens as it what on my shopping list next
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Yup, there's a few posts about noise issues, from what I've gathered it should make a little noise but nothing too terrible and certainly no high pitched whine. Here's an overly long video with one guy getting something similar:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spgfapnMaxg


It sounds a bit like this:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SirsG0cb4Ds
I think the normal drive noise sounds a little better on mine but the whine stands out more. I made a video of it but for some reason youtube refuses to process it.

So going to get it replaced, hopefully they won't take too long as I'd wanted to use it soon.
 
woof woof said:
I asked about this a week or so ago and didn't get any answers... Is the A9 the only current A7/9 camera that you can link the spot metering to the focus point with?

With my A7 spot metering is just in the centre or at least I can't see way way to move it but with being able to see the exposure in the EVF it isn't that much of an issue if the subject either with or without magnification is big enough in the frame as you can see it and add compensation as required but being able to have spot metering linked to the focus point (as it is with my Panny camera) could be a nice option.
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This came up on the previous page.

Here are details on A7RIII
http://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/1710/v1/en/contents/TP0001211747.html
 
twist said:
@woof woof cool so this is taken from the a7iii info...

Tip: When [Spot] is selected and [Focus Area] is set to either [Flexible Spot] or [Expand Flexible Spot] while [Spot Metering Point] is set to [Focus Point Link], the spot metering point can be coordinated with the focus area.
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It’s almost as bad as legal language isn’t it :lol:
 
I know that it’s only DXO lab scores but that Sony 100-400mm looks impressive. Combined with the A7rii it gets 36mpix sharpness compared to 24 for the Canon 100-400mm L IS II on the 5dsr :eek:
 
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snerkler said:
I know that it’s only DXO lab scores but that Sony 100-400mm looks impressive. Combined with the A7rii it gets 36mpix sharpness compared to 24 for the Canon 100-400mm L IS II on the 5dsr :eek:
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Yup, it’s super sharp.
Have a look at Dan’s phots posted earlier. :)
 
ohms12 said:
Question is - 70-200 or 100-400? I have a feeling the 70-200 will be more useable, but it's a bit annoying that the f4 can't utilise the TC. Cheers, Sony.
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I went the FE 70-200mm f2.8 GM route along side the 1.4x TC, more usable for events / wedding work in my case.
I have also owned and used the f4 version and that itself is a super sharp lens, can crop a lot without losing too much sharpness.
Guess it comes down to if you need f2.8 and the outlay.

I have also lusted after the FE 100-400mm f4.5 - 5.6 GM including other lenses for my collection but that is purely down to Sony GAS.

FE 35mm f2.8 or 1.8 if they released it
FE 50mm f1.4 GM if they released it
FE 135mm f1.8 GM if they released it
FE 105mm f2.8 GM Macro
FE 100-400mm f4.5 - 5.6 GM
 
twist said:
@woof woof cool so this is taken from the a7iii info...

Tip: When [Spot] is selected and [Focus Area] is set to either [Flexible Spot] or [Expand Flexible Spot] while [Spot Metering Point] is set to [Focus Point Link], the spot metering point can be coordinated with the focus area.
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I know it can be linked I was more interested in the coverage, I.e 1.5%?

:)
 
Riz_Guru said:
I went the FE 70-200mm f2.8 GM route along side the 1.4x TC, more usable for events / wedding work in my case.
I have also owned and used the f4 version and that itself is a super sharp lens, can crop a lot without losing too much sharpness.
Guess it comes down to if you need f2.8 and the outlay.

I have also lusted after the FE 100-400mm f4.5 - 5.6 GM including other lenses for my collection but that is purely down to Sony GAS.

FE 35mm f2.8 or 1.8 if they released it
FE 50mm f1.4 GM if they released it
FE 135mm f1.8 GM if they released it
FE 105mm f2.8 GM Macro
FE 100-400mm f4.5 - 5.6 GM
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I know we keep going back and forth but 50mm/1.4 Zeiss is the GM equivalent :P
 
Just a quick question. I will be shooting a lot in CAF tracking horses but then sometimes switching to people. Is it really easy to change from CAF to eye AF? Is it just about assigning a button to do so?

I did not really delve in to the menus that much when I tested and with D750 it’s just easy to set up for action as was just using 9 point fixed AF point (as found 3d tracking average at best) but the Sony looks to have many more tracking options!!!

Also - the screen and screen surround on the A7R3 - exactly same size as A9?
 
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Riz_Guru said:
I went the FE 70-200mm f2.8 GM route along side the 1.4x TC, more usable for events / wedding work in my case.
I have also owned and used the f4 version and that itself is a super sharp lens, can crop a lot without losing too much sharpness.
Guess it comes down to if you need f2.8 and the outlay.

I have also lusted after the FE 100-400mm f4.5 - 5.6 GM including other lenses for my collection but that is purely down to Sony GAS.

FE 35mm f2.8 or 1.8 if they released it
FE 50mm f1.4 GM if they released it
FE 135mm f1.8 GM if they released it
FE 105mm f2.8 GM Macro
FE 100-400mm f4.5 - 5.6 GM
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Have you tried the Samyang 35mm 2.8?
 
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