The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

addicknchips said:
I’ve got the 85mm f1.2 arriving today. I’ve had a few of them before and found the speed etc on par with using it on a canon body. Not very fast!
It does have a certain character about it though.
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Yeah when it hits the target it's really nice

I just found the 50L and 85L to be almost useless to me at 1.2 which I guess defeated the purpose. Wonder is it more accurate on the Sony bodies [emoji848]
 
Riz_Guru said:
And Touch AF if you need it for video work although not sure how good it is in practice.
The touch screen implementation on these bodies feels like its been put in there for a future firmware to release its true potential.
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Yes because Sony is da best at fw updates innit
 
Riz_Guru said:
Yes, having owned a couple of Sony A7R II's it does give you good cropping abilities but as mentioned earlier, you will need to accept the larger file sizes and most likely slower AF compared to the Sony A7 III.
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TBH I don't need the best of the best AF, as long as it matches my D750's that's fine for me (y)
 
F/1.4 said:
Yeah when it hits the target it's really nice

I just found the 50L and 85L to be almost useless to me at 1.2 which I guess defeated the purpose. Wonder is it more accurate on the Sony bodies [emoji848]
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Yes I'd say so. Since the issue with miscalibrated lens will be particularly bad with such a fast lens. On Sony you don't have that issue. Always worth a try ;)
 
nandbytes said:
Yes because Sony is da best at fw updates innit
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I'd say so far the firmware updates for the Sony A9 have been ok, they resolved some issues and added some functionality. (see below).
Apparently more updates are on the way for the Sony A9....
I believe the A9 and most lenses have had a couple of updates so far, the FE 70-200mm f2.8 GM has had 5 firmware updates.

Benefits and improvements from the latest update
Enhance Continuous AF
Enhances continuous auto focus on moving subjects
Enhances AF-C stability while zooming
Adds new or enhanced functions for sports/news media photography professionals
New function: assign protecting images to custom key
New function: FTP transfer protected files at once *1
Displays wired LAN MAC address
Inputs IPTC metadata to files *2
Inputs camera serial number to metadata
Others
Improves all-round operational stability
Improves the accuracy of the overheating warning
*1: Only the images protected on Ver.2.00.
*2: Need to create IPTC information beforehand by using the "IPTC Metadata Preset" software.

Previous Benefits and Improvements
The following benefits and improvements are also included in this update.

Supports "Eye AF" function for A-mount lenses via the LA-EA3 mount adapter *1
Fixes an issue where RAW files may disappear when SDXC or microSDXC memory cards are used in certain smartphones *2
Improves the image quality and overall stability of the camera
Improves continuous autofocus (AF-C) performance while zooming in with the SEL70200GM or SEL100400GM lens *3
Improves the overheating warning functionality
*1: This function is only for A-mount lenses which can adapt to 8 or 10 fps (maximum) tracking AF-C shooting.
See here for details.
*2: Raw data recorded by the ILCE-9 with system software Ver. 1.00 or 1.01 could disappear. Please backup your raw data files, even if you’re updating the system software to Ver. 1.10.
*3: The system software version Ver.03 or later for SEL70200GM and Ver.02 or later for SEL100400GM are needed respectively. The statement was added at the same time as the lens system software was released.
 
nandbytes said:
Yes I'd say so. Since the issue with miscalibrated lens will be particularly bad with such a fast lens. On Sony you don't have that issue. Always worth a try ;)
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And if you can use Eye-AF, it makes life easier when trying to nail focus using fast lenses like 1.2 and 1.4? :)
 
Riz_Guru said:
What... :eek: G Master gone back? :( Will you be getting another?
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Remember I told you it had a fault?
Was offered a discount on it, to send it back for fixing or to send back for full refund. Went for the refund and need to return it today/tomorrow. Really annoying as the issue doesn’t happen all the time and gets solved by turning the camera on and off.

Doing a shoot in London tonight so planning on testing the 100mm stf. If it doesn’t impress it’ll probably be sold and I may even move everything on. Not feeling the love for the system atm
 
addicknchips said:
Remember I told you it had a fault?
Was offered a discount on it, to send it back for fixing or to send back for full refund. Went for the refund and need to return it today/tomorrow. Really annoying as the issue doesn’t happen all the time and gets solved by turning the camera on and off.

Doing a shoot in London tonight so planning on testing the 100mm stf. If it doesn’t impress it’ll probably be sold and I may even move everything on. Not feeling the love for the system atm
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Canon M system calling you?!
 
addicknchips said:
Remember I told you it had a fault?
Was offered a discount on it, to send it back for fixing or to send back for full refund. Went for the refund and need to return it today/tomorrow. Really annoying as the issue doesn’t happen all the time and gets solved by turning the camera on and off.

Doing a shoot in London tonight so planning on testing the 100mm stf. If it doesn’t impress it’ll probably be sold and I may even move everything on. Not feeling the love for the system atm
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Dibs on samyang 35mm/1.4 :D
 
addicknchips said:
Remember I told you it had a fault?
Was offered a discount on it, to send it back for fixing or to send back for full refund. Went for the refund and need to return it today/tomorrow. Really annoying as the issue doesn’t happen all the time and gets solved by turning the camera on and off.

Doing a shoot in London tonight so planning on testing the 100mm stf. If it doesn’t impress it’ll probably be sold and I may even move everything on. Not feeling the love for the system atm
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Yes..... its a shame as the 85mm f1.4 GM is a corker of a lens! :)
Moving back to Fooj?
What kit will you be parting with, just in case I am intersted :D lol.
A night shoot with the 100mm f2.8 STF, let me know how the lens performs as you have to remember it loses about 2 stops due to the APD. So will act like a f5.6 in terms of light gathering. :)
 
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Riz_Guru said:
Yes..... its a shame as the 85mm f1.4 GM is a corker of a lens! :)
Moving back to Fooj?
What kit will you be parting with, just in case I am intersted :D lol.
A night shoot with the 100mm f2.8 STF, let me know how the lens performs as you have to remember it loses about 2 stops due to the APD. So will act like a f5.6 in terms of light gathering. :)
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i'll probably stick with sony but just finding the system feeling little clunky and sluggish atm.

yes i know about the T-stops of the lens. there will be some light at the start, but lights on also so will be a chance to test out the bokeh. the stuff I've shot close up is buttery smooth.
 
JJ! said:
So if I buy an A7iii and the low light CAF is worse than the D750 and the EVF has some lag I can blame 1.4 for misrepresentation of Sony? [emoji38]
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Should be fine.not seen any examples yet of people here shooting low light caf
 
addicknchips said:
i'll probably stick with sony but just finding the system feeling little clunky and sluggish atm.

yes i know about the T-stops of the lens. there will be some light at the start, but lights on also so will be a chance to test out the bokeh. the stuff I've shot close up is buttery smooth.
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There is only one solution to the feeling of it being a little clunky and sluggish.... Sony A9 dude :D lol
 
addicknchips said:
i'll probably stick with sony but just finding the system feeling little clunky and sluggish atm.

yes i know about the T-stops of the lens. there will be some light at the start, but lights on also so will be a chance to test out the bokeh. the stuff I've shot close up is buttery smooth.
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Sluggish? Get any of the MK3 or A9. they are not sluggish at all
 
jonneymendoza said:
Sluggish? Get any of the MK3 or A9. they are not sluggish at all
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The Sony A9 is proper fast... however I have to concede that the Eye-AF can be improved further imo. :eek:
But saying that, I was using the Sony FE 85mm f1.4 which isn't the fasted focusing lens.
 
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jonneymendoza said:
Should be fine.not seen any examples yet of people here shooting low light caf
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Do like the thought of the higher res EVF on the A7R3 though. There are some interesting vids on it doing sports/action on YT too.
 
JJ! said:
Do like the thought of the higher res EVF on the A7R3 though. There are some interesting vids on it doing sports/action on YT too.
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The rear LCD screen is a higher resolution too ;) And it is better sealed / built due to the extra magnesium back, or save for the Sony A9 :D lol
It's £2950 on Panamoz at the moment with 3 years warranty.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Sluggish? Get any of the MK3 or A9. they are not sluggish at all
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there has to be a point where we stop throwing money at it all though.

perhaps sluggish was the wrong word. not complaining that I'm missing shots - i actually think the a7rii eye af is excellent and good enough for the portraits i do. which makes me smile when i read the nit-picking over which has the best eye af of the a73 and a9.
 
addicknchips said:
there has to be a point where we stop throwing money at it all though.

perhaps sluggish was the wrong word. not complaining that I'm missing shots - i actually think the a7rii eye af is excellent and good enough for the portraits i do. which makes me smile when i read the nit-picking over which has the best eye af of the a73 and a9.
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I get that,im always smiling in this thread
 
jonneymendoza said:
Get the d850!
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We've been over this already ;)

But for the record, the D850 does not show you the true DX view, just the FF view with the borders shaded (y)
 
addicknchips said:
there has to be a point where we stop throwing money at it all though.

perhaps sluggish was the wrong word. not complaining that I'm missing shots - i actually think the a7rii eye af is excellent and good enough for the portraits i do. which makes me smile when i read the nit-picking over which has the best eye af of the a73 and a9.
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I have to agree that the Eye-AF on the Sony A7R II is very much usable.... especially compared to the Fuji XT-2, I really missed the Sony's Eye-AF when I was running the Fooj system.
Your right though regarding money, there has to come a point where a line must be drawn when it comes to it.
When I take a step back and evaluate my setup, I don't really need any more lenses.... just a backup body...... Sony GAS is so hard to resist though.
 
Riz_Guru said:
I have to agree that the Eye-AF on the Sony A7R II is very much usable.... especially compared to the Fuji XT-2, I really missed the Sony's Eye-AF when I was running the Fooj system.
Your right though regarding money, there has to come a point where a line must be drawn when it comes to it.
When I take a step back and evaluate my setup, I don't really need any more lenses.... just a backup body...... Sony GAS is so hard to resist though.
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Why do you need a backup body?
 
Just updated my 100-400 - maybe AF will be even more magic when shooting birds and yuffie :)

"This update (version 02) improves AF-C (continuous AF) performance for zooming when attached to an ILCE-9 camera"
 
twist said:
Why do you need a backup body?
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I don't need one yet.... hence why I managed to resist getting the Sony A7 III as that would have just been a GAS attacked associated with the £300 saving off RRP.
When I next do a paid wedding / event I will look at options but don't really need anything fancy .......
 
jonneymendoza said:
On what camera? The 5d3 and 4 diddnt really have faced detection.only in live view
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True - ish, Canon bodies that feature iTR use face detection to improve the focus algorithm when used with AI servo / group AF trough the OVF. However I have never compared the hit rates to know how good it is from my own personal point of view, some say it works well, I do use face detect trough live view (as you say) on the 1DX2 and 5D4, with groups of people I find it works very well hopping from one face to another using the joystick, lets face it (no pun ;) ) the Sony eye AF looks awesome!
 
dancook said:
Just updated my 100-400 - maybe AF will be even more magic when shooting birds and yuffie :)

"This update (version 02) improves AF-C (continuous AF) performance for zooming when attached to an ILCE-9 camera"
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That's what update (version 05) has done to the FE 70-200mm f2.8 GM :)
As much as I wan't more lenses for the collections, I don't actually need them :D lol

Just missed out on a Amazon deal on the original Sony A7.... £469 :eek:
 
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Riz_Guru said:
I don't need one yet.... hence why I managed to resist getting the Sony A7 III as that would have just been a GAS attacked associated with the £300 saving off RRP.
When I next do a paid wedding / event I will look at options but don't really need anything fancy .......
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last wedding i shot i picked up a used a7 as a backup. chucked it in the bag and ended up using it for the group shots.
 
addicknchips said:
last wedding i shot i picked up a used a7 as a backup. chucked it in the bag and ended up using it for the group shots.
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That's what I am leaning towards....I found for my style of shooting the FE 24-70mm f2.8 GM did most of the work with the odd lens changes for certain shots.
I will hold off for now unless some crazy deal crops up :D OR if I give in to Sony GAS.
 
twist said:
But you're more likely to want a faster camera than a better EVF.
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I don’t think there has been any comparisons between the speed of the A7iii or A7riii yet to make that call. There was an A9 comparison and the A7R looked to fair pretty well.But agree the A7iii will/should be faster!

But a decent EVF makes things better too.

Will wait and see anyway, no rush!
 
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JJ! said:
I don’t think there has been any comparisons between the speed of the A7iii or A7riii yet to make that call. There was an A9 comparison and the A7R looked to fair pretty well.

But a decent EVF makes things better too.

Will wait and see anyway, no rush!
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Information off Sony's site...

Sony A7R III has 2x better AF compared to the Sony A7R II
Sony A7 III has 2x better AF compared to the Sony A7 II
Sony A9 has 20x better AF compared to the Sony A7 II

You also have to remember that the Sony A7R III has less AF points & coverage..... :(

399 phase-detection AF points covering approx. 68% of image area width and height plus 425 densely positioned contrast-detection AF points improve focus that might otherwise be un-achievable.
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
Does it let you touch and drag focus point whilst using VF like the olympus?
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Dunno, I don't use touchscreen on cameras

twist said:
But you're more likely to want a faster camera than a better EVF.
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Possibly, but how much better do we need? Overall user experience counts a lot for me and things like screen res are quite important. Of course, it would all depend on how big the difference is in AF ;)

Riz_Guru said:
Information off Sony's site...

Sony A7R III has 2x better AF compared to the Sony A7R II
Sony A7 III has 2x better AF compared to the Sony A7 II
Sony A9 has 20x better AF compared to the Sony A7 II

You also have to remember that the Sony A7R III has less AF points & coverage..... :(

399 phase-detection AF points covering approx. 68% of image area width and height plus 425 densely positioned contrast-detection AF points improve focus that might otherwise be un-achievable.
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TBH the A7Riii have more than enough AF coverage for me, I would never use the outer points of the A7iii and A9. As long as the focus point reaches just beyond the rules of thirds lines that's fine (y)
 
snerkler said:
Dunno, I don't use touchscreen on cameras

Possibly, but how much better do we need? Overall user experience counts a lot for me and things like screen res are quite important. Of course, it would all depend on how big the difference is in AF ;)

TBH the A7Riii have more than enough AF coverage for me, I would never use the outer points of the A7iii and A9. As long as the focus point reaches just beyond the rules of thirds lines that's fine (y)
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The A7rii screen and AF are very good, its not as if they have turned poor overnight, Id rather have the AF speed, no point in a slightly better EVF if it means missing shots.

The A7iii AF IS better than the A7riii, no doubt in my mind, Ive been using Sony products long enough to know that when they add more phase points and coverage the AF speed gets better.
 
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