The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

nandbytes said:
Talking about price and money the value of GBP has risen yet again... but cameras still at the rip-off price :mad:
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It depends on where they're sourcing them from because we're basically back to where we were in 2016 with the Dollar and Yen but still over 10% off with the Euro.

Anyone so inclined will save a good chunk of money importing. If you're not VAT registered you'll save £300 buying an A7 III in the US (whenever they get stock) and as mental as it seems if you take the D850 I'm working it out to be a £700 saving; those prices include paying VAT.
 
woof woof said:
No, I just looked at the crop of the eyes on this page.

I'll go back and take a look...

PS.

I've just copied and pasted those two pictures into CS5.

The whole picture shows as 100% and cropping to the eyes like in the crop shows as 2500% so I can't tell anything from these. I'd need to see the raws and process the picture myself to decide if it's an issue for me.

Is there anywhere that a raw of the whole picture can be downloaded?
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This is the original image for anyone else interested in the striping.

https://2.img-dpreview.com/files/p/TS4000x6000~sample_galleries/6769434587/5655951041.jpg
 
Riz_Guru said:
Has anybody recreated the issue on their own body?
Could it be the studio lights they used?
Could it be a faulty body/sensor?
Could it be some kind of electrical interference?
Could it be a software related conversion issue?
Could it be a rouge individual who has doctored the images?
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What year is it?
 
On a positive note, the using the Sony A7III with 70-200 2.8 saves me 160g!!!
 
Riz_Guru said:
I guarantee that the person who first spotted the strips on those original Sony press event photos is a big time pixel peeper.
It seem's its really come to the surface following the Sony A7 III announcement, what about the other previously released Sony bodies, why no big fuss back then?
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You don't have to be a "big time pixel peeper", I would imagine we all edit at 1:1 at some point or another during the process. Sharpening should certainly be done at 1:1 to make sure it's not overdone. I'd be gutted if I started editing and saw this :(

twist said:
Actually DPR spotted it in their hands on. The images are from their sample gallery.

From what I understand it does show up in other cameras incl the A9 (which I mentioned previously) but its worse due to A7iii sensor design.
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How does the sensor design differ? I'm assuming the A7Riii would suffer the same fate?

twist said:
Hopefully it does get dealt with, I know Ill be trying to reproduce it in my own scenarios. Wait and see.
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I don't see how they can deal with it though if it's a design 'issue'?

JJ! said:
D750 is indeed superb, but sometimes a change is good. Maybe it might be the wrong decision (one of which I have not made yet) but we learn by our mistakes (or good moves!).
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Yep, a change is good. Just a shame it's such an expensive one :(

Riz_Guru said:
Has anybody recreated the issue on their own body?
Could it be the studio lights they used?
Could it be a faulty body/sensor?
Could it be some kind of electrical interference?
Could it be a software related conversion issue?
Could it be a rouge individual who has doctored the images?

:D lol
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Or sensor design?

twist said:
Plus its a bit of fun to change
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(y)

JJ! said:
This also! If it does not work out so be it!
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So be it? I'd cry at the money lost :eek:

JJ! said:
On a positive note, the using the Sony A7III with 70-200 2.8 saves me 160g!!!
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Wow, what a weight saving ;) TBH it'd probably end up being heavier as you'd add the battery grip ;)

dancook said:
@snerkler did i miss focus?

DSC00600 by dancook1982, on Flickr
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Yeah, I think main focus is on the bridge of the nose ;)
 
dancook said:
Not that I've given it a lot of thought, wouldn't it be better to sharpen for the output size and viewing distance not for 1:1?
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TBH yes it depends. Officially (according to adobe) sharpening should be done at 1:1, but if you're outputting at small file sizes then you can add extra sharpening and you shouldn't (in theory) see sharpening artefacts (unless you've REALLY overdone it ;)) yet make the image look sharper.
 
woof woof said:
Nupe, never had the later Fuji's.

My comments based on the Panasonic, Canon and Nikon "kit" type lenses I've had and of those the Sony seems to be easily the best... hardly surprising though as it's the newest :D

It is a light and compact and very reasonable standard zoom, IMO.
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When I had an A7 you'd hardly used it then lol
 
snerkler said:
You don't have to be a "big time pixel peeper", I would imagine we all edit at 1:1 at some point or another during the process. Sharpening should certainly be done at 1:1 to make sure it's not overdone. I'd be gutted if I started editing and saw this :(
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Indeed, the effect is quite obvious without pixel peeping. If it's really noticeable in say only 1 in every 500 photos would that alter your decision to use the camera? I reasoned no but so far the best information we've got is coming from that DPR thread and that means things might be worse than assumed (again I doubt it but having an open mind costs nothing).

snerkler said:
How does the sensor design differ? I'm assuming the A7Riii would suffer the same fate?
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If you read the DPR threads I think they're suggesting it's more prevalent than other cameras in one of the channels, so it could be that the way it's processing photos rather than the hardware. You can find older photos with different bodies showing the same effect but none of them show up as badly as the samples from DPR so there probably is a difference.

snerkler said:
I don't see how they can deal with it though if it's a design 'issue'?
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They can do a lot through software if they really want to but unless the A7 III is more susceptible to the issue I seriously doubt they will.
 
Just about to turn off notifications for this thread. The constant pinging is driving the dog nuts!!!
 
simonbarker said:
Indeed, the effect is quite obvious without pixel peeping. If it's really noticeable in say only 1 in every 500 photos would that alter your decision to use the camera? I reasoned no but so far the best information we've got is coming from that DPR thread and that means things might be worse than assumed (again I doubt it but having an open mind costs nothing).
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1 in 500 would be too much for me tbh, 1 in 1000 I'd be on the fence, but I'd be gutted if it ruined a really good shot.

If you read the DPR threads I think they're suggesting it's more prevalent than other cameras in one of the channels, so it could be that the way it's processing photos rather than the hardware. You can find older photos with different bodies showing the same effect but none of them show up as badly as the samples from DPR so there probably is a difference.
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That would be good if it was at it would suggest that it's fixable, at least to a large extent. But then this is Sony, and they're not renowned for solving issues through firmware, or indeed offering a lot at all with firmware updates. Best wait for the A7iv :lol:
 
Just discovered Sony have removed the sweep panoramic from the A9 and A7Riii, have they removed it from the A7iii too? It's a feature I really like and wished my EM1 and D750 had it, I generally just use my iPhone now but IQ isn't great. I know I can stitch in LR but you don't know exactly how it's going to turn out until you get home, in which case it's too late. Personally I'd rather have the Panoramic feature than pixel shift, especially with the A7riii where you have 42mp already.
 
dancook said:
Challenge accepted, i'll go get my flash
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:D if you go looking for issues, they may crop up. Just like the banding on the Sony A9.
No camera is perfect but agree that this needs further investigation and a fix via firmware if possible.
 
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