The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

twist said:
I was trying to make it easier to understand.
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Not possible - the various manufacturers seem to delight in creating their own variations on the same thing, each with a different abbreviation.

Add the morass of different 'what is a FF on APS-C' statements in the internet, it's no wonder folks don't know what's going on!
 
Zoom and auto-focus lenses are going to be bigger than prime manual focus lenses because of all the motors and other gubbins inside. I briefly had the Sony FE 24-70 on my A7R, but found it so cumbersome I soon got rid of it. It was the only zoom or AF lens I've owned in the last 7 years.

Many Leica body owners use A7's as a second camera as the M-fit lenses from Leica and Zeiss work so well with the A7. I've used everything from 21mm to 360mm on my A7R. I've said earlier that the Voightlander are a mixed bunch, some good, some bad. Second hand and vintage offer great value for money and you lose little if anything on resale. I have several from the 1980s and 1990s.

I've got the Samyang 14mm, does a job, but will happily sell it. Just too big and heavy. Am probably also going to list my A7R.
 
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This is just around the corner from my GF's family home. It's a bit surreal to me to have mangos and coconuts scattered about a housing estate and to have monitor lizards and of course there are gecko's everywhere but thankfully the cute looking but nasty little monkeys are a few minutes away.

Sony 35mm f2.8.

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Oh! Love that lens!

Give it to me please :D

Provoking flare, probably with a Minolta Rokkor 50mm f1.2.

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A7r2 sexiness again

peru_2016_sony-1102.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr

MariaEliseStudioShoot-772.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr


MariaEliseStudioShoot-647.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr

@twist and you question the a7r2 ability to focus natively in low light? try this, a venue lite mostly by candles

Harry and Bem's wedding-150.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr

Harry and Bem's wedding-140.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr


Harry and Bem's wedding-107.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr

This was literely pitch black and it nailed focus on adapted lens with sigma 35mm f1.4!!!!

I of course increased exposure by more than a stop! They were using torches on the people by the stairs! Thats how dark that scene was

Coimbra Portugal-773 by Jon Richy, on Flickr
 
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Riz_Guru said:
I have to agree that A-mount is old now and doesn't really offer any unique selling point. It was nice of Sony to bring out the A99 II, they should leave it at that and wave farewell to the A-mount.
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I doubt a99ii owners will thank you for that :)

What an incredible camera that is. Such a shame Sony hasn't and won't give it the support it deserves.
Now that's what you call and proper camera upgrade.

On a side note, just checked in and there were 90odd new posts. Mainly about a9 and banding. How many a9 owners do we have? Riz, jonney, and Pete I've counted. Very much looking forward to some real world examples of 20fps can capture.

Also, what's your thoughts on the grip and fingers rubbing on the lens? Just a problem for guys with larger hands?
 
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addicknchips said:
I doubt a99ii owners will thank you for that :)

What an incredible camera that is. Such a shame Sony hasn't and won't give it the support it deserves.
Now that's what you call and proper camera upgrade.

On a side note, just checked in and there were 90odd new posts. Mainly about a9 and banding. How many a9 owners do we have? Riz, jonney, and Pete I've counted. Very much looking forward to some real world examples of 20fps can capture.

Also, what's your thoughts on the grip and fingers rubbing on the lens? Just a problem for guys with larger hands?
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Pretty sure it's only Jonney
 
addicknchips said:
I doubt a99ii owners will thank you for that :)

What an incredible camera that is. Such a shame Sony hasn't and won't give it the support it deserves.
Now that's what you call and proper camera upgrade.

On a side note, just checked in and there were 90odd new posts. Mainly about a9 and banding. How many a9 owners do we have? Riz, jonney, and Pete I've counted. Very much looking forward to some real world examples of 20fps can capture.

Also, what's your thoughts on the grip and fingers rubbing on the lens? Just a problem for guys with larger hands?
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Fine on my Batis lenses but I have skinny fingers. 1498841620774.jpeg
 
Nuzik said:
Money money money.
Sony are like Apple. Money grabbing idiots.
Did they test it of course they did, did they know about it of course they do. Did they care nope.
I don't believe for one second that pro photographers and I men's pros that go to football games and other sporting events are going to get rid of their canon or Nikon gear for a Sony. They will have invested thousands upon thousands in glass. Glass bigger and heavier than a pregnant sumo whale. A smaller body offers them what? When you are lugging a 400mm plus lens a small body is somewhat pointless.

Mirrorless are are getting better and better I think when canon and Nikon finally join the boat properly that will be when they are truly ready.

For now mirrorless will be good enough for studio, weddings and street
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Yawn! Falling asleep waiting, not that it interests me but the sooner they step up to the plate the less of these posts I'll have to trawl through! Or do you think it will be a magic gamechanger?
Oh let me know when they do step up because I'll wake up and see what they, however belatedly, have engineered as competition.
 
shoshone said:
Yawn! Falling asleep waiting, not that it interests me but the sooner they step up to the plate the less of these posts I'll have to trawl through! Or do you think it will be a magic gamechanger?
Oh let me know when they do step up because I'll wake up and see what they, however belatedly, have engineered as competition.
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You know you don't have to read posts don't you.
 
chrism_scotland said:
Aside from the Samyang 14mm (which is manual focus) there aren't really any "cheap" wide options on the Sony, personally I have the Manual Focus Zeiss Loxia 21mm and its brilliant, not cheap though.

The new 12-24 G is getting great reviews but again not cheap (£1700), I ordered one but changed my mind when I remembered it needed its own filters/holder, will probably pre-order the 16-35 f2.8 although I love the Loxia so much that I might look for a cheaper option like the Voightlander 15mm (again Manual Focus).

Could look for the F4 variant of the Sony 16-35, it has OS and generally is regarded as a very good wide angle.
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Actually there is a Samyang 14mm AF lens.
Soon expected Laowa 15mm as well (hey have already almost perfect 12mm) But both will be manual focus. And not very cheap.
We have the very big hit coming as well: Sigma 14mm F/1.8 ART
Well, no the cheapest lens on the market, but the quality should be good.
I also was looking for something wide, portable, light, with very high quality and cheap, but... :) :) :)
May be The Samyang 12mm F/2 in a APS-C mode :)

I use the website bellow to check what is on offer on the market from time to time, as I got confused with so many lens coming up (and I am getting older and forget):

For example all wide Full frame lens for E-mount (35mm and bellow) at the moment offered by BH:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/sear...=4196380428+3999800997+4108103537+4099560891&
 
photosample said:
Actually there is a Samyang 14mm AF lens.
Soon expected Laowa 15mm as well (hey have already almost perfect 12mm) But both will be manual focus. And not very cheap.
We have the very big hit coming as well: Sigma 14mm F/1.8 ART
Well, no the cheapest lens on the market, but the quality should be good.
I also was looking for something wide, portable, light, with very high quality and cheap, but... :) :) :)
May be The Samyang 12mm F/2 in a APS-C mode :)

I use the website bellow to check what is on offer on the market from time to time, as I got confused with so many lens coming up (and I am getting older and forget):

For example all wide Full frame lens for E-mount (35mm and bellow) at the moment offered by BH:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/sear...=4196380428+3999800997+4108103537+4099560891&
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I had already mentioned and posted that lens this morning here
 
shoshone said:
Hmm you previously stated that there was millions of threads that images were welcome and you only posted images that were gear related, so, I'll take the above as an example and suggest that images are fine as long as you itemise the gear used in their execution ;-)
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No, I've never said that. What I said was more like... I mostly post gear realated pictures as this is a gear thread but also post pretty pictures too... etc... etc... and we can't expect endless pretty pictures as there are a Godzillion other threads for that.

Anyway, who's going to stop people posting either gear pictures or just pretty pictures? No one! Anarchy!
:D

With Photobucket getting arsey I've reposted some pictures which are mostly gear related... mostly a selection of shots taken with different lenses :D
 
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CharleyBird said:
Thought id mention there's an interesting thread 'Loxia 50 Vs Sony 55' on another site
(DPReview)
Due to a lot of great reviews of the Sony sharpness at wide apertures, I'd given some considerable thought about whether I ought to have bought it rather than the Loxia. The thread so far is backing up what I found on the web, they're both great lenses with strengths etc.
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twist said:
The fe35 1.4 also has a lovely rendering from what I've seen. Way nicer than the 35 2.8 or the fe 55 1.8.
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photosample said:
Actually there is a Samyang 14mm AF lens.
Soon expected Laowa 15mm as well (hey have already almost perfect 12mm) But both will be manual focus. And not very cheap.
We have the very big hit coming as well: Sigma 14mm F/1.8 ART
Well, no the cheapest lens on the market, but the quality should be good.
I also was looking for something wide, portable, light, with very high quality and cheap, but... :) :) :)
May be The Samyang 12mm F/2 in a APS-C mode :)

I use the website bellow to check what is on offer on the market from time to time, as I got confused with so many lens coming up (and I am getting older and forget):

For example all wide Full frame lens for E-mount (35mm and bellow) at the moment offered by BH:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/sear...=4196380428+3999800997+4108103537+4099560891&
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Forgot about the AF Samyang 14mm actually!!!
Sigma Art 14mm isn't available as a native FE Mount lens though, would need to adapt Canon
 
twist said:
Have you thought about lens options, it would be a good idea to have a look. Ff lenses are the same size across manufacturers... small body big lens... kinda pointless if you just want to save size.

It seems you are prioritising your travel camera requirements over the other? Although the 7dii is very good.
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In some respects I am prioritising the walk around camera as this is where most of the use is (family days out etc). With regards to lenses I was looking at the Sony FE 16-35mm f4 ZA as a general walkabout lens along with a couple of fast primes (24& 35mm) although for now I'll just the 35mm art. Even with the art mounted it's only just over a kg whereas it's over 1.5kg on a 5d3. I've read that the AF isn't as quick but it's more the IQ and DR that's important as my son rarely moves quickly. Now to find somewhere with it in stock to try it out and see how the handling is (something else that has been criticised)
 
ChrisHeathcote said:
In some respects I am prioritising the walk around camera as this is where most of the use is (family days out etc). With regards to lenses I was looking at the Sony FE 16-35mm f4 ZA as a general walkabout lens along with a couple of fast primes (24& 35mm) although for now I'll just the 35mm art. Even with the art mounted it's only just over a kg whereas it's over 1.5kg on a 5d3. I've read that the AF isn't as quick but it's more the IQ and DR that's important as my son rarely moves quickly. Now to find somewhere with it in stock to try it out and see how the handling is (something else that has been criticised)
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The a7ii and adapter and 35 ART is 1.415g. The 5d3 and ART 35 is 1.6kg. If it were a 6d it would be 1.430g.

In your case you'll need to calculate weight plus equivalent system lens.
 
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However the a7ii and 16-35 za f4 is 1027g and about 100g more for the 35mm ZA 1.4, although there are smaller primes. This would leave a Canon crop with a 120-300 Sport and 70-200 f4 lis for wildlife etc. Hmmm decisions decisions.
 
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However the a7ii and 16-35 za f4 is 1027g and about 100g more for the 35mm ZA 1.4, although there are smaller primes. This would leave a Canon crop with a 120-300 Sport and 70-200 f4 lis for wildlife etc. Hmmm decisions decisions.
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You're only ever going to save on the body weight. That's 170g in the case of the 6d and 350g against the 5d3.

Have a play at the store and see how you get on though. I think if you used a d750 or 6d the saving is non existent but you will feel it vs the 5d3.
 
twist said:
But the facts are the facts, it's a problem till as he says you switch to mechanical shutter, then what? 5fps. Tbh I've seen nothing but praise for Sony on dpr
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twist said:
How so?

Not sure what happened but there seem to be some hard feelings there.
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Twist, I'm surprised than even you don't detect a slight bias at DPR sometimes. Or maybe I'm not :D and the fact seems to be that weaknesses and omissions sometimes do appear to be overlooked or at least downplayed at DPR and that's just not good.

The lack of consistency has struck me before many times. Being die hard DSLR fans with an inbuilt reluctance to mirrorless would be bad enough but to be uneven for commercial reasons is maybe more distasteful.
 
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