The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Mate the mirrorless system ain't any smaller then a dslr with quality fast lenses though.

If you don't need fast lenses then that's when the downsizing will benefit

I dunno - depends on the lens surely. I won't be getting a 70-200 f/2.8, or a 35mm 1.4. Looking at neat little primes like the 35, 55 etc.
 
I dunno - depends on the lens surely. I won't be getting a 70-200 f/2.8, or a 35mm 1.4. Looking at neat little primes like the 35, 55 etc.

Thats what he said. A FF lens is a FF lens. The Sonys arent smaller than other FF lenses with the same spec. Youre only saving on the body and on the A7rii that aint much.
 
and the sigma arts performance on the sony is awesome ...........
 
and the sigma arts performance on the sony is awesome ...........

By the time youve added the ART and the adapter to the A7rii youre looking at DSLR size and very similar weight. Then its wether you want the other features / positives / negatives of mirrorless because size and weight is out the window.
 
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By the time youve added the ART and the adapter to the A7rii youre looking at DSLR size and very similar weight. Then its wether you want the other features / positives / negatives of mirrorless because size and weight is out the window.
Yup and I sort of like the benefits of the a7 series over my 5d3. The only thing going for the 5d3 is its battery life. Buffer speed and robust. For shooting in an urban environment or a day trip to the lake district. The A7rii is fine but traveling around the world. The 5d3 is what will be used
 
Yup and I sort of like the benefits of the a7 series over my 5d3. The only thing going for the 5d3 is its battery life. Buffer speed and robust. For shooting in an urban environment or a day trip to the lake district. The A7rii is fine but traveling around the world. The 5d3 is what will be used

Yeah, both DSLR and Mirrorless have a place in my bag, each have something to add.
 
But the SIgma Art is big and heavy... the SZ or Loxia's are pretty tiny by comparison
 
Anyway - horses for courses. I'm looking at a small (smaller than my 7D with Sigma Art 35mm) high-quality camera that I'll take with me on travels, climbing trips and when generally out and about. It'll be used as a point-and-shoot, and a "serious" camera.
 
I guess it all depends on what your shooting etc.... I have an rx100m2 that I put in my pocket sometimes
 
Anyway - horses for courses. I'm looking at a small (smaller than my 7D with Sigma Art 35mm) high-quality camera that I'll take with me on travels, climbing trips and when generally out and about. It'll be used as a point-and-shoot, and a "serious" camera.
a6300 ;-)
 
a6300 is a damn nice camera defo shouldn't rule it out if you want small and light
 
...or you could save a packet and get the A6000. Its only slower with Canon lenses and has no 4k. IQ and AF is still excellent.
true get some nice glass with the saving actually ;-)
 
Mate the mirrorless system ain't any smaller then a dslr with quality fast lenses though.

If you don't need fast lenses then that's when the downsizing will benefit

Reality doesn't support the highlighted view and I do wonder why we see this repeated time and time again. An A7 body, even a II, is so much smaller than a FF DSLR (like the 5D I had...) that there's always going to be a saving if the cameras being compared are fitted with the same or equivalent lenses so the question should be is the saving in bulk offered by an A7+lens significant.

Ignore the lenses and the loaf of bread here and look at the cameras.

Look at that big fat DSLR...





Yup, the smaller the lens fitted the more the saving in bulk and weight but even with similar lenses there should still a saving unless you pick a relatively huge Sony lens and a relatively small DSLR lens as the A7 series body is so small.

A7II v 5DIII...




Here's an A7II with 85mm f1.4 GM v 5D with Sigma 85mm f1.4.

http://camerasize.com/compact/#312.222,579.516,ha,t

Of course an A7/A7II is smaller than a DSLR but does it matter? It's a personal decision.
 
Suggesting APS-C cameras in A7 thead?! Wheres @woof woof to tell us that for him it's got to be either m43 or FF :exit:

You called... but not sure I understand what you mean... have you had a lunch time pint? :D

I use my A7 as my luxury kit and I use my MFT kit when I want even smaller kit or when I'm going somewhere I don't want to take my A7. I don't have anything against APS-C and indeed a few tweaks and additions to the A6000 series lens line up and I'd be very tempted.
 
.... mmmm lunchtime pint....

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You called... but not sure I understand what you mean... have you had a lunch time pint? :D

I use my A7 as my luxury kit and I use my MFT kit when I want even smaller kit or when I'm going somewhere I don't want to take my A7. I don't have anything against APS-C and indeed a few tweaks and additions to the A6000 series lens line up and I'd be very tempted.

How do you find the MFT image compared to the A7 when printed at A3?
 
How do you find the MFT image compared to the A7 when printed at A3?

This is a portrait I shot in 2011 with my old GF1 and 14-45 kit lens with 2 Nikon speed lights triggered remotely (one on the background and one in a soft box as key light).

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We have it printed 18"x12" (pretty much A3) and hung on the wall and the detail is excellent. I've also got a 36"x24" canvas on another wall taken with the GF1.
 
Excuse the iPhone shots!

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Apologies these aren't shot with an A7 in the A7 thread but it illustrates the point that 'even' M43 can deliver excellent portrait results with the right lighting. This was shot in a small bedroom with a popup white background and a stool for Chloe to sit on.
 
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Yes but there's a 1.5x crop factor so your 55mm is like a 85mm (for example)
 
The Olympus E-M1/M5ii was a serious contender as a successor to my Nikon D700 kit. Enough for me to borrow the kit from them for the weekend for a "test drive", was very close to buying one and the associated PRO lenses, which were giving me excellent results, certainly much, much better than any of the current Sony Zeiss zooms, G range excepted.
 
Never tried it before tbh. Any good?
There are six (I think) different filters, one for sharpening and noise, one for HDR, one for film lookalike modes, one for b&w conversion etc... The one I'm most interested in is the b&w converter as it's something that I struggle to get a good look with.

If you haven't come across Nik filters before I think it's worth clicking on the link and having a quick read or even downloading the set to see if they'll be any use to you as these Nik filters do seem to have their fans.
 
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