The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

I commented a few pages back about the lag between when I pressed the shutter and the image was taken on my A7R2, that no-one else seemed to suffer from.

I now know (never even considered it at the time) that it was the TTL flash being used that was the problem, as there is a pre-flash to measure light needed before the main flash, and this was the cause of the "lag".

I was using the camera and flash at a party, and trying to catch some moves when people were "dancing", and therefore missed the timing while the flash was deciding how much light to give.

:(
 
I commented a few pages back about the lag between when I pressed the shutter and the image was taken on my A7R2, that no-one else seemed to suffer from.

I now know (never even considered it at the time) that it was the TTL flash being used that was the problem, as there is a pre-flash to measure light needed before the main flash, and this was the cause of the "lag".

I was using the camera and flash at a party, and trying to catch some moves when people were "dancing", and therefore missed the timing while the flash was deciding how much light to give.

:(
Try shoot in manual mode on the flash. Not ettl
 
Try shoot in manual mode on the flash. Not ettl

I usually do, but had decided to give TTL a try on the night.

Big mistake for action shots, would have been no problem on manual.

Still, I learnt something!
 
I usually do, but had decided to give TTL a try on the night.

Big mistake for action shots, would have been no problem on manual.

Still, I learnt something!

yep photography is great I'm always learning love it :-)
 
Godox are releasing there X1 trigger and there comapatble flashes in a Sony mount, this will be an excellent for off camera flash with both hss and ttl.
 
Godox are releasing there X1 trigger and there comapatble flashes in a Sony mount, this will be an excellent for off camera flash with both hss and ttl.
££££££££ though I bet
 
We're all saving or doing overtime to pay for the gm lenses lol
 
Sorry was thinking you said profoto not godox apologisea
 
interesting debate on dpreview when i asked which is best for traveling.

3 prime lenses of your choice or a 24-70 GM master or canon f2.8 lens

An interesting mix of opinions, reflecting experience and knowledge of photography in the main.

The often blind partisanship towards zooms really conceals a big issue with them. Very few are made for advanced users. Zooms fall into two major categories, each either side of the niche most a7x users occupy. They are either pro tools or low-mid consumer items made down to a price.

None will excel at what photographers want in travel photography - the creation and capture of unique imagery, a familiar subject seen with fresh perspective perhaps. Zooms are total compromises, as we see them today. Too slow, too heavy, too large, too 'look over here, a tourist'. Zooms are what phone users use when they think they mean business. Zooms put distance between the subject and the shooter. Before long, the shooter feels he is 'harvesting' images.

They disrupt the creative process by encouraging the erroneous message that they can take all the photographs that appear in front of you. Sensory overload and random shooting is the result, you no longer think through what kinds of images you are shooting for, you have just surrendered large DOF control and very few mid zooms are decent below f4 in any case. Even the lens hood is a compromise as it is designed for the widest FL. Zooms are a kind of tourist visual shorthand. Zooms turn your camera into a point and shoot.

Prime lenses of the caliber mentioned by the OP are very different in usage and results. Where AF f2.8 zooms are designed to deliver strong central performance wide open to f4, and peak at f5.6, primes like these are far broader capability lenses. They are truly excellent wide open, rise to best in class IQ in middle apertures, before remaining so strong at f8, right across the frame.

They are designed for great color and bokeh control, on a level no zoom can match. Zooms are loaded with fancy glass which has the side effect of producing horrible bokeh artifacts.

Zooms are inconsistent - what you get at 24mm is not what you see at 70mm. The performance profile is very different in key ways that you cannot calculate in shooting. What if you want great corners at 25mm at f4? What if you want the 85mm FL for portraits?

What if you value intimacy and a close connection with your subjects? A small camera - so obviously built for use with small-moderate lenses - is essentially a small request for a photo. A large camera/lens or even a small camera/large lens is a very different level of request. Your gear now closely resembles what everybody sees on the nightly news, swarms of mad guys working with DSLRs/zooms, trying to get a shot of Obama/Pope/significant other celeb.

The result is wooden expressions on tentative faces. No spontaneity.

You can raise an a7 body and any of these primes to your eye in an instant (total shot ready carry 900-1050 grams), and can maneuver it very fast even using just the right hand. Much harder with a 900-1000 gram zoom tugging at the front of the camera, now a 1500 gram beast.

I see the zoom guys quite often, when out and about. They often have two cameras, one with a 24-70 the other a 70-200. Gotta be prepared, right? They look like paramilitary or surveillance, and people avoid them. They bang into everything because their stuff won't fit inside a bag, and people see them coming from a hundred meters off. So the paradox is that while promising versatility zooms deliver severe restrictions on most of what we value as enthusiasts.
 
it was quite funny and the bloke seemed he was high when he typed it

99 percent of them have a very over inflated opinion of themselves and of their photographic skills but never actually share there work lol that's why I love this place you can have a laugh and debate without coming across as a ........

Your right tho sounds like he has been tooting to me :oops: :$
 
I would've just said that zooms suck. The end.

That's no good for DPreview. There you have to say something like...

"You're an idiot who doesn't know anything about cameras or photography. Go away and wet yourself you loser. Bet you haven't even got a camera. Loser!"
 
99 percent of them have a very over inflated opinion of themselves and of their photographic skills but never actually share there work lol that's why I love this place you can have a laugh and debate without coming across as a ........

Your right tho sounds like he has been tooting to me :oops: :$

How did your weddings go with the sonys mate?
 
The only thing that was a struggle but was my fault really was the first dance quickly realised focus wasn't locking on quick enough so got the ice light out but missed 45 seconds to a min of valueable first dance footage by getting the icelight :-(
 
The only thing that was a struggle but was my fault really was the first dance quickly realised focus wasn't locking on quick enough so got the ice light out but missed 45 seconds to a min of valueable first dance footage by getting the icelight :-(
What lenses did you use?
Did you use any speed lights?
I going to be using mine for weddings so any advice would be grateful :)
 
Zeiss 55 and native 28mm
Metabones 70-200 2.8 85 1.2 sigma art 35 and a 8-15mm fisheye at one point
Nissan flash with air commander
No.worries in the church at all set shooting to high for some scenes and was fine ... focus a bit slower in the dark but got used to this and learning to anticipate...
Formal shots spot on can't complain once
Reception etc spot on although by now had to search a power post as had used 5 of my 6 batteries up and was almost touching cloth..... so take plenty of batteries.....
Flash was a bit hit and miss to be honest think this may have been me somehow but it sure what I done lol even after looking at exit lol
Icelight for night scenes as just couldn't focus with native or metabones that great..... a7s2 done 10 shots outside to test but mainly used for video but was as expected at high iso spot on and focuses about the same as the a7r2 which I was surprised at.....

My technique needs changing a little to get what I had with the Canon BUT I have a 1dx2 on the way so a bit of the Sony kit will prob be going in the summer due to me getting some local football and rugby contracts for saturdays
 
Everyone must be playing with their batis I guess that's why it is quiet and rookies now owns a d750
 
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Zeiss 55 and native 28mm
Metabones 70-200 2.8 85 1.2 sigma art 35 and a 8-15mm fisheye at one point
Nissan flash with air commander
No.worries in the church at all set shooting to high for some scenes and was fine ... focus a bit slower in the dark but got used to this and learning to anticipate...
Formal shots spot on can't complain once
Reception etc spot on although by now had to search a power post as had used 5 of my 6 batteries up and was almost touching cloth..... so take plenty of batteries.....
Flash was a bit hit and miss to be honest think this may have been me somehow but it sure what I done lol even after looking at exit lol
Icelight for night scenes as just couldn't focus with native or metabones that great..... a7s2 done 10 shots outside to test but mainly used for video but was as expected at high iso spot on and focuses about the same as the a7r2 which I was surprised at.....

My technique needs changing a little to get what I had with the Canon BUT I have a 1dx2 on the way so a bit of the Sony kit will prob be going in the summer due to me getting some local football and rugby contracts for saturdays

Did you find using the Sony gear too much of a compromise or did you prefer it other using canon dslr kit? Did you bother with the silent shutter?
 
Lol its a hard one to explain the Sony is a great system and I don't really want to knock it and I'm sure with me being a bit more aware of the limitations and buying a few.more native lenses like the batis etc then it would be awesome.... up until the night event I was really happy with the Sony but when the focus wasn't happening I had my heart in my mouth and wished I had the Canon with me as can never remember having this with the Canon. .. I can't remember what lens I had on at the time will have to check the exit but I'm sure it was the metabones so prob should have switched to the zeiss in all honestly. ...
The battery also caused me to almost touch cloth ( I have a car charger but still ain't a great solution) i seemed to run through them at an alarming rate.....
When I post process the files though I'm still in awe of the Sony Dr and the fact you can push and pull the files so well

I done a christening as well now I didn't have a single complaint about it but it was in the day in good light and the weddings I did were all gloomy etc with it a lot

Iwould say it's a great system for weddings of you have enough batteries and probably better native glass than me
 
I didn't use the silent shutter at all but to be honest I probably should of I the church but for some reason the church was quite loud so didn't bother me that much certainly no more than the 6d or 5d3 did
 
If I'm honest if I fully changed to sony I would have invested in more glass etc the initial lure of the Sony for me wasn't size etc it was the sensors and the fact i could use my canon glass on it in hindsight I probably should of just got the 1 body and better glass so will prob be selling the a72 in the summer to get a bit of glass for the a7r2 as the a7s2 is the wife's for video
 
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