The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

I don't think my car would pay for a lens cap.

Still, could be worse. We could be Leica owners and paying over the top for rebadged Panasonics :D
 
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I don't tend to order anything until I've seen at least a few reviews. I considered the 85mm, but will probably stick with the Batis (if it turns up this side of Christmas) and wait it out for a 135mm. The 24-70mm range doesn't interest me, and while the 70-200mm looks like it will be a killer, I'm happy enough with my 70-200mm f4.
 
For what I use an 85mm for, people (mostly posed) and general landscape, I don't think I need AF or f1.4 and my film era lenses are very probably adequate for whole images. Pixel peeping is another matter.
 
woof woof said:
So, has anyone ordered all three of the new lenses yet?

I think I know the answer :D

Have been reviewing my kit recently. I posted a while ago that I wasn't very likely to be buying new kit unless something breaks and I think that's becoming more certain. I used to be a bit of a gear head, less so now :D
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I'm waiting on official pricing / availability and reviews first.... ;)
Only interested in the 24-70mm and 70-200mm f2.8 GM.
For the 85mm I have gone the Zeiss Batis 85mm f1.8 route.
I wouldn't mind a Zeiss Batis 135mm next.

That said the current FE 70-200mm f4 G is a stellar lens and its pretty light/small - not sure I need any better....
OMFG, the 24-70mm f2.8 GM's front element is 82mm!!!! That's massive..... this lens aint going to be light or small, maybe even bigger than the Nikon or Canon rivals???
 
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I expect this (82mm) is a product of people expecting top bench test performance figures across the frame.

The size, weight and price may be a little easier to swallow if the results are first class.
 
I hope Jessie's do interest free on it I'm having one ... By the way can you stack TC or is it one of the other only?
 
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I hope Jessie's do interest free on it I'm having one ... By the way can you stack TC or is it one of the other only?
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I would imagine one or the other, stacking would probably degrade the image quality too much.
 
woof woof said:
I expect this (82mm) is a product of people expecting top bench test performance figures across the frame.

The size, weight and price may be a little easier to swallow if the results are first class.
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Having read up all the Sony blurb, the G Master lenses seem like Sony have gone all out...... I am expecting these to set a new benchmark vs competitors... (no on price though) lol. ;)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0359260536/sony-releases-three-premium-g-master-lenses-for-fe-mount

Interesting read.
 
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I will reevaluate after seeing real world tests but my opinion at the moment is they are too pricey..... barring in mind I have a lot of l glass so don't mind paying decent money for quality......
 
As I've said before... when I had my Sigma lenses on my 5D I couldn't have wished for better lenses but the world has moved on and I'm not the target market for Sony and their top end lenses. I have lower needs :D and they seem to be aiming for a very top end system.
 
So for wedding togs to swap to sony were talking 24-70....70-200...a7rii.... plus perhaps a prime. ... nearly 100 then need a backup camera and flash....... makes it damn expensive
 
But a positive bargain when compared to some, Leica etc.
 
Yep but being honest unless you are a top boutique wedding tog it's usually canon or nikon and for 10k u can get a hell of a Canon or nikon setup....
 
Rizvan said:
Having read up all the Sony blurb, the G Master lenses seem like Sony have gone all out...... I am expecting these to set a new benchmark vs competitors... (no on price though) lol. ;)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0359260536/sony-releases-three-premium-g-master-lenses-for-fe-mount

Interesting read.
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Yeah, Sony aren't pulling any punches with these. I expect more than a few raised eyebrows when the results start coming in.

For those wanting sample images, check this out from the 85mm. As a self-confessed bokeh fiend, I just fainted.
 
owenb said:
Yep but being honest unless you are a top boutique wedding tog it's usually canon or nikon and for 10k u can get a hell of a Canon or nikon setup....
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As the system does pretty much what I want I'm happy. I wanted a compact quality system to use my old lenses on and also a couple of quality AF primes... A7 + 35 and 55mm and a load of manual lenses pretty much = job done :D

I can see that in your case the system makes sense too as you're looking to reduce weight, but you need more AF lenses than I do.
 
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Yep I hope that they are out of this world as justify price
 
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So for wedding togs to swap to sony were talking 24-70....70-200...a7rii.... plus perhaps a prime. ... nearly 100 then need a backup camera and flash....... makes it damn expensive
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don't forget their pricey macro
 
owenb said:
So for wedding togs to swap to sony were talking 24-70....70-200...a7rii.... plus perhaps a prime. ... nearly 100 then need a backup camera and flash....... makes it damn expensive
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It's 2000 more expensive then a Nikon d810 and similar lenses.

In fact me and @twist worked it out that it you Nikon route you could add a photo holiday in Peru on top of that Nikon gear for same price as Sony.

I think the A7r2 should go down on price now
 
When u put it like that Johnny these lenses best be gold plated lol
 
jonneymendoza said:
A7r2 should go down on price now
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I don't understand this. The Nikon is £2350 at Wex and it's 36mp isn't it? The Sony is £2600 and 42mp? That's £250 more for the extra mp's, and the 36mp mk1 is £900, £400 cheaper than the Nikon.

Why do people expect Sony kit to be cheaper? Because it's a Sony or because it's a CSC? A combination of these?

If you'd said Sony need cheaper lenses, fine, but why are people constantly bitchin about the price of the cameras. As I said, go buy a Nikon :D
 
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I don't understand this. The Nikon is £2350 at Wex and it's 36mp isn't it? The Sony is £2600 and 42mp? That's £250 more for the extra mp's, and the 36mp mk1 is £900, £400 cheaper than the Nikon.

Why do people expect Sony kit to be cheaper? Because it's a Sony or because it's a CSC? A combination of these?

If you'd said Sony need cheaper lenses, fine, but why are people constantly bitchin about the price of the cameras. As I said, go buy a Nikon :D
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I THINK the moan is about the cost of the glass rather than the body.
have you used a D810? its quite magical
 
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I THINK the moan is about the cost of the glass rather than the body.
have you used a D810? its quite magical
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Then why say the A7rII needs to be cheaper?
Be clear dear boy.

PS. Not just you. I'm just tired of reading how expensive the A7rII is in threads other than this one too.

And no, DSLR's aren't for me. I don't need any focus advantage they may have and for me CSC's are the way forward. I'd need a gun at my head before I'd use a bloated DSLR+lens again. We've only just recently got back to somewhere near the size cameras used to be when 35mm film was the choice of most and I'm not going back to pointing a big fat DSLR+lens at people.

I can see the point if you need the abilities of a DSLR, I don't :D
 
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Then why say the A7rII needs to be cheaper?
Be clear dear boy.

PS. Not just you. I'm just tired of reading how expensive the A7rII is in threads other than this one too.

And no, DSLR's aren't for me. I don't need any focus advantage they may have and for me CSC's are the way forward. I'd need a gun at my head before I'd use a bloated DSLR+lens again. We've only just recently got back to somewhere near the size cameras used to be when 35mm film was the choice of most and I'm not going back to pointing a big fat DSLR+lens at people.

I can see the point if you need the abilities of a DSLR, I don't :D
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not sure i ever said the a7rii needs to be cheaper? i have the camera. its a great camera. does the SYSTEM offer good value compared to Nikon equivalent (D810, 24-70, 70-200 ETC)? That seems to be the discussion here -not the cost of the excellent A7rii.

people wanted pro spec glass and sony have now delivered. fair play.

but now people can see the real cost of the camera and glass set up and may compare this to what they can get elsewhere, naturally. its not a personal attack against you and your love for all things small. but don't forget these new zooms won't be tiny. i wonder how balanced they will feel.
 
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not sure i ever said the a7rii needs to be cheaper?
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I should have gone to specsavers. Of course you didn't... mistaken identity... :D

PS.
Not sure I love all things small, it's more that I just don't like big cameras and lenses as I find them too obtrusive, too attention grabbing. All I've wanted since going digital is to be able to replace the DSLR's and quality non DSLR cameras I had in the 35mm days and thankfully with an A7 and MFT I'm just about there now :D
 
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Wissel said:
Just out of interest, does anyone know what the release prices were on the Canon and Nikon equivalent 2.8 zooms?
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I believe they were as follows:-
Canon 70-200mm f2.8 USM II £1900
Nikkor 70-200mm f2.8 VR II £1700

Technically the Sony G Master series seem to be made of the good stuff...... we just need actually reviews to back the tech stuff up.
Its got Nano this and Nano that, ED this ED that.... min 50 line resolutions, new focus systems blah blah blah
 
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think the latest 24-70 2.8 VR nikon is £1300. not 100% sure
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The Nikkor 24-70mm f2.8 VR was £1849 when released I believe.... the Canon 24-70mm f2.8 USM II was £1799

When looking at the release prices for the 24-70mm lenses the Sony isn't priced too badly if it comes in at £1800 :)
 
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Just a quick one that I thought of and maybe controversial but I'm going to put it out there. ..... if those new master g lenses were branded as a "zeiss" do you think people would of accepted the price better?
 
was going to get an ex display a7r from jessops today for £700, but they wouldn't take my RX1R in p/x as it wasn't on their system!
 
mjScall said:
was going to get an ex display a7r from jessops today for £700, but they wouldn't take my RX1R in p/x as it wasn't on their system!
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How much were they offering you for the rx1r?
 
Best of selling it on here 2 be honest then .... I once went in to jessops with a 70-200 2.8 is ii canon lens and wanted to partex to a 1d iv I think it was they offered me 300 quid for my lens I could help but point out they had it for sale for close to 2k at that point lmao......
 
owenb said:
Just a quick one that I thought of and maybe controversial but I'm going to put it out there. ..... if those new master g lenses were branded as a "zeiss" do you think people would of accepted the price better?
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Maybe, and it's sad but that's often the way of the world. People pay for badges and brands and I'm pretty sure that's why we see the fanboy comments aimed at the likes of Sony and maybe Panasonic and Samsung too. In the mind of some these companies shouldn't have the temerity to make cameras and lenses and should stick to making computer games and micro wave ovens.

Years ago I spent a few months fixing Canon photocopiers but that didn't make me think that's all they should make :D
 
Well people have no issue paying 2k for some zeiss lenses as we know....
 
Email wex part X they give half decent prices I got a very good price for all my Olympus
 
The wex price for a7r is cheaper than grey. Plus £100 bonus trade in offer. #tempted
 
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