The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

JYC said:
Depends, are your A-mount lenses full frame or designed for the APS-C sensor?
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ok as follows 16-50 sony aps-c, Minolta 100 2.8 g lens , zeiss 16-80 , 70-200 2.8 mk1 full frame I think, 70-400 mk2 full frame I think, sigma ex 300 2.8, Minolta apo 2.8 300mm g lens, Minolta 80-200 g lens , sony 70-300
 
I have a Sony A7RII arriving this week with the Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 after selling the D750.

Are you guys using a wrist strap or proper shoulder strap? I used a footprint wrist strap on the A6000.
 
christurbo said:
I have a Sony A7RII arriving this week with the Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 after selling the D750.

Are you guys using a wrist strap or proper shoulder strap? I used a footprint wrist strap on the A6000.
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Used to use black rapid when I had a dslr. No need for the strap on the sonys. The a6000 can fit in a coat pocket.
 
christurbo said:
I have a Sony A7RII arriving this week with the Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 after selling the D750.

Are you guys using a wrist strap or proper shoulder strap? I used a footprint wrist strap on the A6000.
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Peak Design Cuff!
 
Hi all,

I am considering upgrading from ny NEX-6 to the a7. The review at dpreview is good, but it says that the jpegs are not good. Can you tell me if since then, any firmware has been released to fixed this?

Thanks.
 
Pietrach said:
Hi all,

I am considering upgrading from ny NEX-6 to the a7. The review at dpreview is good, but it says that the jpegs are not good. Can you tell me if since then, any firmware has been released to fixed this?

Thanks.
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No. Shoot RAW.
 
Pietrach said:
Hi all,

I am considering upgrading from ny NEX-6 to the a7. The review at dpreview is good, but it says that the jpegs are not good. Can you tell me if since then, any firmware has been released to fixed this?

Thanks.
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Why do you want to shoot jpeg's?

When spending this much on camera gear shouldn't you be trying to get the best from your shots and in doing so shoot raw?

Never really bothered with jpeg's for years myself but if you insist on using them I'd imagine that there must be in camera settings to tweak them more to your liking?
 
Thank you for your help. When I do for best quality i shoot raw, for family outings, walks, birthdays etc I shoot raw+jpegs. Share, view etc 90% of these in jpegs for convinience and time saving, and work on raw on the remaining 10% that I want to print. So yes, I do need decent jpegs.

Are the poor jpegs a domain of the original a7 only? or a7R is the same?
 
I can't comment on jpeg's as I don't use them but I do suspect that in camera setting could tweaked for best effect.

Personally I see the A7 series as my luxury choice :D and if wanting to shoot mainly jpeg's and possibly more for social media use I think I'd possibly look elsewhere, maybe to a Panasonic or Olympus MFT, a Sony A6000 or something from Fuji.
 
woof woof: I appreciate your view, but if one can afford only one camera, then compromises are needed. I will be selling my nex6 if I decide to go for the a7.
Thanks for all the advice.
 
Pietrach said:
Thank you for your help. When I do for best quality i shoot raw, for family outings, walks, birthdays etc I shoot raw+jpegs. Share, view etc 90% of these in jpegs for convinience and time saving, and work on raw on the remaining 10% that I want to print. So yes, I do need decent jpegs.

Are the poor jpegs a domain of the original a7 only? or a7R is the same?
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What's stopping u from converting to jpeg on import? Seriously I don't see a single reason to shoot jpg only
 
Pietrach said:
woof woof: I appreciate your view, but if one can afford only one camera, then compromises are needed. I will be selling my nex6 if I decide to go for the a7.
Thanks for all the advice.
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Ah, forgot you already had an A6000. Soz about that :D

Well, the A7 series are good cameras and quite compact too if you fit a compact lens to them, not too much bigger than an A6000. Maybe someone could investigate jpeg's for you and how good they can me made by fiddling with the in camera settings? Maybe that could help you decide if an A7 series is the way to go for you?
 
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jonneymendoza said:
What's stopping u from converting to jpeg on import? Seriously I don't see a single reason to shoot jpg only
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TBH I can understand it even if it's something I don't really want to do but I do think that maybe anyone spending A7 series money might want to think about shooting raw and processing for best effect. Maybe there are better choices for mainly jpeg shooters but maybe A7 series jpeg's can be improved by fiddling with the settings...
 
jonneymendoza said:
What's stopping u from converting to jpeg on import? Seriously I don't see a single reason to shoot jpg only
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What's the point in using your PC/Mac to auto-convert to jpg on import when the camera has a built in engine to output jpg's direct?

I don't get the slightly snobby attitude towards jpg either? It's not only colour corrections (that can be tweaked) but lens corrections are already applied too. The OP has already said that they want good jpg output for family/holiday usage where I'd agree that shooting raw then performing corrections/edits before saving to jpg is potentially a waste of time. I shoot raw if I'm shooting landscape/paid work but if I'm shooting 'life' I don't see the problem with jpgs.
 
The A7 jpegs are just fine, RAW only offers more if your willing to put time into editing. I use jpeg a lot of the time to be honest especially when its just normal stuff, something tricky i will use raw so i can pull back shadows and highlights.
 
stevelmx5 said:
What's the point in using your PC/Mac to auto-convert to jpg on import when the camera has a built in engine to output jpg's direct?

I don't get the slightly snobby attitude towards jpg either? It's not only colour corrections (that can be tweaked) but lens corrections are already applied too. The OP has already said that they want good jpg output for family/holiday usage where I'd agree that shooting raw then performing corrections/edits before saving to jpg is potentially a waste of time. I shoot raw if I'm shooting landscape/paid work but if I'm shooting 'life' I don't see the problem with jpgs.
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It's not a waste of time. It can be auto output to jpg on import. No tweaking needed at all
 
robj20 said:
The A7 jpegs are just fine, RAW only offers more if your willing to put time into editing. I use jpeg a lot of the time to be honest especially when its just normal stuff, something tricky i will use raw so i can pull back shadows and highlights.
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RAW actually offers quite a bit in terms of detail not just recovery, the jpg engine is quite aggressive with its noise reduction and causes detail loss and smearing.

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jonneymendoza said:
It's not a waste of time. It can be auto output to jpg on import. No tweaking needed at all
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Not sure you're getting my point mate? If all you're going to do on import of a RAW file is convert it JPG and save you lose all benefit of the RAW file without gaining any benefits of the cameras built in processing engine hence it being a waste of time.

With regards to the agressive noise reduction, that can be disabled completely in camera (or at least it can on my A6K) as can colour processing etc. However, other than the noise reduction, standard jpeg output would be perfectly fine for day to day shooting.
 
stevelmx5 said:
I don't get the slightly snobby attitude towards jpg either?
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Can't speak for others but there's nothing snobby about me. I just thought that anyone droping A7 series money would probably be invested in the whole process and want to shoot raw.

If however the user makes an informed decision to shoot jpeg and accept any inherent disadvantages should there in fact be any then fair enough.
 
stevelmx5 said:
Not sure you're getting my point mate? If all you're going to do on import of a RAW file is convert it JPG and save you lose all benefit of the RAW file without gaining any benefits of the cameras built in processing engine hence it being a waste of time.

With regards to the agressive noise reduction, that can be disabled completely in camera (or at least it can on my A6K) as can colour processing etc. However, other than the noise reduction, standard jpeg output would be perfectly fine for day to day shooting.
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You can't disable the noise reduction completely, jpg means processed, more than raw... even raw is processed to a certain extent. If jpg works for whoever then i agree why not shoot it.
 
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stevelmx5 said:
Not sure you're getting my point mate? If all you're going to do on import of a RAW file is convert it JPG and save you lose all benefit of the RAW file without gaining any benefits of the cameras built in processing engine hence it being a waste of time.

With regards to the agressive noise reduction, that can be disabled completely in camera (or at least it can on my A6K) as can colour processing etc. However, other than the noise reduction, standard jpeg output would be perfectly fine for day to day shooting.
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OK fair enough. Cheers dude
 
Fully agree @twist JPEG by definition has been processed to whichever degree you configure in camera whereas raw is the scene direct from the sensor. However, back to the OP, they asked about the jpeg output of the A7 for when they want to use it as a daily camera to shoot family/holidays etc and share images easily. There's no point in shooting raw with the added processing required to get even a base image in that situation. However, it appears that some people feel that jpeg is a little beneath them or an A7 :0) Probably worth asking any sideline photographer how they get on with processing raw files at the side of the pitch (as an example where jpeg's are perfectly acceptable)
 
There was also a recent firmware which allows uncompressed 14bit files. The file sizes become humongous though
 
Pietrach said:
Hi all,

I am considering upgrading from ny NEX-6 to the a7. The review at dpreview is good, but it says that the jpegs are not good. Can you tell me if since then, any firmware has been released to fixed this?

Thanks.
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Hi

I have the a7m2 I mainly shoot raw though I have tried JPEG and they looked fine for my needs also you can select things like people, sunset night etc and the JPEG will have those kind of tweaks applied

My only concern with JPEG and raw would be if you need fast frame rate then I think the through put might be a bit slow

As a side note the movie mode is for me easy and watchable if just short family clips

I would share concern with others if I wanted high ISO though but that's just personal taste

All in all I like my A7 :)
 
stevelmx5 said:
However, it appears that some people feel that jpeg is a little beneath them or an A7 :0) Probably worth asking any sideline photographer how they get on with processing raw files at the side of the pitch (as an example where jpeg's are perfectly acceptable)
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Oh get off your high horse for God sake. Again, can't speak for anyone else but that's certainly not what I think and in deed I did make a point of clarifying... but hang on, I'm forgetting something... I'm in the right room for an argument. Carry on...

:D
 
woof woof said:
Oh get off your high horse for God sake. Again, can't speak for anyone else but that's certainly not what I think and in deed I did make a point of clarifying... but hang on, I'm forgetting something... I'm in the right room for an argument. Carry on...

:D
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Lmao
 
woof woof said:
Oh get off your high horse for God sake. Again, can't speak for anyone else but that's certainly not what I think and in deed I did make a point of clarifying... but hang on, I'm forgetting something... I'm in the right room for an argument. Carry on...

:D
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Lol, I did put a smiley face so it wasn't taken too seriously but that must have been missed from all the way down there (joke..) ;0)

Either way, I'm sure the jpeg output from an A7 is perfectly fine as it's designed to be and users can also shoot in Raw if they want to.
 
Pietrach said:
Hi all,

I am considering upgrading from ny NEX-6 to the a7. The review at dpreview is good, but it says that the jpegs are not good. Can you tell me if since then, any firmware has been released to fixed this?

Thanks.
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Can only speak for the A7R2 and the JPGs in extra fine are very good combined with a variety of Creative Styles, you should be good to go. Personally I shoot RAW to which a LR6 develop import sauce needs to be applied but that's just the way I do it. I can't think why DPreview would have anything negative to say about OOC JPGs ?
 
Nikon user here planning to move to an A7.

The whole lens situ is a bit of a minefield for a chap like me whos been spoilt for lenses.

Are there Sony equivalents of the following? Best reccomendations?

50mm 1.8
24-70mm 2.8
70-200mm 2.8

From what I can see so far, the Sony equivalents are more expensive and slower aperture, am I getting something wrong?

Also the whole adapter situation, what are the tradeoffs? Do you lose a stop using them? Is AF acceptable or very slow?

I understand this may be a can of worms, but I will be moving to the A7, love the form factor and liberating size coming from a Nikon FX.

Thanks!
 
tapetheescape said:
Nikon user here planning to move to an A7.

The whole lens situ is a bit of a minefield for a chap like me whos been spoilt for lenses.

Are there Sony equivalents of the following? Best reccomendations?

50mm 1.8
24-70mm 2.8
70-200mm 2.8

From what I can see so far, the Sony equivalents are more expensive and slower aperture, am I getting something wrong?

Also the whole adapter situation, what are the tradeoffs? Do you lose a stop using them? Is AF acceptable or very slow?

I understand this may be a can of worms, but I will be moving to the A7, love the form factor and liberating size coming from a Nikon FX.

Thanks!
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What Nikon are you coming from?

You can almost certainly negate the f4 vs f2.8 by using a higher ISO with the A7. There is an 24-70 f2.8 incoming though so if you wait on that one you can have it, would expect to see a 70-200 f2.8 at some point as well. Nothing to stop you using an A mount lens via the adapter though.
 
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