The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

JJ! said:
Any cheaper alternatives to the 70-200 that can do decent low light sports? Any longer primes our there that might work?

Anyone using the 70-200 F4?
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C’mon Justin. You know it’s gotta be 2.8 for what you do.
 
gad-westy said:
The issue that I've always had when considering Sony was the 2nd hand aspect. I very rarely buy new and am often happy with a previous generation lens if it does the job. To put it in context, I recently bought a used Nikon 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 VRII, and two Sigma Art Primes for less than the cost of a single new Nikon/Sony 70-200. At the moment, you can't really do the same with E-mount stuff or at least it didn't seem so when I last looked into it, but I really like that Sigma has now started making native stuff and of course as time marches on, more lens availability generally will start to filter down. But yes, as it stands, the switch over cost for me is too high in just the same way it would be too high for me to go out and buy new Nikon's latest and greatest.
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But thats not Sony's issue though. Older stuff will always be cheaper second hand, yet sony always seem to get beaten about expensive glass. Its a bit like moaning an iphone x is to expensive when you can pick up a second hand Samsung galaxy s2 for a few quid on ebay, both surf the internet and make phone calls after all ... an aston martin is expensive compared to a 2001 ford escort from "dodgy daves" but both take you shops ok,

Having the latest and greatest doesn't stop people going out and taking great photos, everyone is limited by budget so you just buy the best you can afford and get out taking photos, any way rant over (edit not actually directed to you Gad, just we would all love stuff to be cheaper but need to be realistic and as you say e mount just isnt old enough yet to have the amount available second hand,)
 
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UK pre-order prices are out folks.

Canon EOS R Digital Camera with 24-105mm f4 IS Kit = £3,269
Canon EOS R Digital Camera with EF Adapter = £2,349
Canon RF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM = £1,119
Canon RF 28-70mm f/2 L USM = £3,049
Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 IS STM Macro Lens = £519.
Canon RF 50mm f/1.2 L USM = £

These lens prices make the Sony G Master prices look cheap! lol :eek:
 
RPhotos said:
But thats not Sony's issue though. Older stuff will always be cheaper second hand, yet sony always seem to get beaten about expensive glass. Its a bit like moaning an iphone x is to expensive when you can pick up a second hand Samsung galaxy s2 for a few quid on ebay, both surf the internet and make phone calls after all ... an aston martin is expensive compared to a 2001 ford escort from "dodgy daves" but both take you shops ok,

Having the latest and greatest doesn't stop people going out and taking great photos, everyone is limited by budget so you just buy the best you can afford and get out taking photos, any way rant over (edit not actually directed to you Gad, just we would all love stuff to be cheaper but need to be realistic and as you say e mount just isnt old enough yet to have the amount available second hand,)
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Yep, all fair points, just putting out the real reason why I personally couldn't move to Sony recently where Canon and Nikon were both options. Everything Sony related is still basically shiny and new and costs reflect this. It's good that we're at the start of of what is likely to be a big shift though. Consumers can only benefit.
 
gad-westy said:
Yep, all fair points, just putting out the real reason why I personally couldn't move to Sony recently where Canon and Nikon were both options. Everything Sony related is still basically shiny and new and costs reflect this. It's good that we're at the start of of what is likely to be a big shift though. Consumers can only benefit.
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You also have to consider, due to the short supply of Sony FE lenses on the used market vs Nikon/Canon, sellers won't lose too much sometimes if demand is high.
When I sold all my Sony gear the first time around, I hardly lost anything... this was a combination of buying at good prices and pre-Brexit.
 
Now that both Nikon and Canon have announced their mirrorless systems, I think we can relax as they don't seem to be posing a big danger in terms of features / functions etc compared to our Sony generation / A9 bodies.
The Canon AF system combined with around 5000 AF points and the ability to focus down to -6EV is interesting :o But for me, nothing is really making me think "wow".
However that doesn't mean I don't want to see some things carried over to the next A9 / A7 IIII bodies on top of what has already been suggested...

Slightly larger bodies with pro-grade weather sealing
Top plate LCD
Full touch screen / menu GUI
Internal social media / FTP via 4/5G data connection

Bring on the Sony A9 II ...... maybe they can make it with 42.2mp and retain the same speed performance :D
 
Maybe an RF style body would be nice but whatever they do I think they should fit a SOTA EVF.

Oh, and two control dials for the next A6xxx body and maybe a mini SLR style APS-C camera.

Overall though I actually a bit shocked that Canon and Nikon have both entered the market with such (arguably) weak and behind the cutting edge systems, and with the headline grabbing but maybe very slow selling lenses.
 
Canon - 5fps with continuous AF
Nikon - 5.5fps with continuous AF
A73 - 8fps with continuous AF

Edit - or is Sony 10fps just not with live view?
 
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JJ! said:
Canon - 5fps with continuous AF
Nikon - 5.5fps with continuous AF
A73 - 8fps with continuous AF

Edit - or is Sony 10fps just not with live view?
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A7iii does full 10fps CAF and AE, slight delay in evf at 10fps but I don't find it an issue with people stuff, Panning probably.
 
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JJ! said:
Canon - 5fps with continuous AF
Nikon - 5.5fps with continuous AF
A73 - 8fps with continuous AF

Edit - or is Sony 10fps just not with live view?
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Are you sure both the Nikon and Canon can run C-AF in a usable fashion for tracking subjects. I thought the Nikon only locked on AF and AE on the first frame?
With the Sony A7 III I believe is calculates AF and AE for each frame, even at 10fps. You only need to drop to 8fps if you want a more updated view (live view).
 
JJ! said:
Canon - 5fps with continuous AF
Nikon - 5.5fps with continuous AF
A73 - 8fps with continuous AF

Edit - or is Sony 10fps just not with live view?
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correction:

Performance-wise, the EOS R can shoot continuously at 8 fps in AF-S and 5 fps in AF-C 'shooting speed priority' mode. If you want to use 'tracking priority' mode in AF-C the frame rate drops to just 3 fps.
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I think maybe my first DSLR had 3fps or maybe it was 2.5fps... it was the great Brickon D40 :D
 
I have a funny feeling that Sony are going to drop another bombshell and trump the competition ....
I am thinking that Sony may go down the route of producing the worlds first 8k full-frame mirrorless body with the incoming Sony A7S III with a global shutter ;)
Budget FF mirrorless = Sony A7.
 
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Something I've noticed thats a pain in the arse is that a high visibility jacket with the A7III wreaks havoc with the viewfinder sensor. Pain in the arse !! Seems to activate the sensor.
 
f/2.8 said:
That sounds interesting. I have just finished up doing 5 b&b's most boring thing ever. The free breakfasts and lunches where great though. :banana:
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It was absolutely freezing and grim AF lol

The drone day in the sperrins was unreal though ha
 
Riz_Guru said:
I have a funny feeling that Sony are going to drop another bombshell and trump the competition ....
I am thinking that Sony may go down the route of producing the worlds first 8k full-frame mirrorless body with the incoming Sony A7S III with a global shutter ;)
Budget FF mirrorless = Sony A7.
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Would be a massive change in direction for the S model if they did. Think I'm right in saying 8k requires roughly 33mp resolution.
 
How do you have the LCD off but still active if you press like the play button? I turned it in to manual and to turn it back on I seemed to have to go back in to the menu via the viewfinder?
 
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