The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

As pretty much an outsider looking in...

What advantages does the A9 offer over the A7III?

The one that could matter to me is the lack of banding when using the electronic shutter but this wouldn't tempt me to buy it as my GX80 has a very quiet mechanical shutter which is fine for all but totally silent shooting.

What else does the A9 do above and beyond the A7III?
 
woof woof said:
As pretty much an outsider looking in...

What advantages does the A9 offer over the A7III?

The one that could matter to me is the lack of banding when using the electronic shutter but this wouldn't tempt me to buy it as my GX80 has a very quiet mechanical shutter which is fine for all but totally silent shooting.

What else does the A9 do above and beyond the A7III?
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All that game changer stuff
 
addicknchips said:
All that game changer stuff
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But what?

I almost certainly wont buy either but I'm just curious.

My next camera purchase will probably be a Panny GX9 but I'll have to see if I can sell something first, my GX7 or possibly my GX80, I haven't decided which should go yet.
 
Barrysprout said:
And a charger
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I know it's annoying but if you can get past the annoyance they're probably available from £10 and up on evil bay. I bought a cheap A7 battery charger off there and it's worked perfectly for 4 years.
 
woof woof said:
What else does the A9 do above and beyond the A7III?
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Be available to purchase?

Being able to blackout-free burst shoot in silence with a huge buffer makes it my choice, well as well as not having the option between them.

AF probably won't be dissimilar, who knows.. the A9 has a higher processing speed, what real life difference this has.. we will see in reviews i guess.

There's also 20fps.. which is good for a laugh

I just read the A9 LCD has a higher resolution
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/sony-a7iii-vs-a9/
 
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dancook said:
Be available to purchase?

Being able to blackout-free burst shoot in silence with a huge buffer makes it my choice, well as well as not having the option between them.

AF probably won't be dissimilar, who knows.. the A9 has a higher processing speed, what real life difference this has.. we will see in reviews i guess.

There's also 20fps.. which is good for a laugh

I just read the A9 LCD has a higher resolution
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/sony-a7iii-vs-a9/
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The EVF is a higher resolution too and runs at 130Hz

The AF system is faster/responsive scanning AF/AE at 60 times a second
AF system focus between during each frame due to no shutter / blackout.

It has a dedicate drive knob

It’s has a stronger body’s as both the back and lower plates are magnesium as apposed to plastic (better sealing?)

Longer product cycle

Possible better firmware R&D / budget


Oh it’s the A9 series, not A7 ..... Pro.
Think that’s it. :)
 
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ohms12 said:
:eek: Guessing you had a dud 55/1.8, then.
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Sounds like it as the Sony 55mm f1.8 is the better of the two excluding focal length.
As mentioned previously, it’s described as the baby Outus. :D
 
dancook said:
Be available to purchase?

Being able to blackout-free burst shoot in silence with a huge buffer makes it my choice, well as well as not having the option between them.

AF probably won't be dissimilar, who knows.. the A9 has a higher processing speed, what real life difference this has.. we will see in reviews i guess.

There's also 20fps.. which is good for a laugh

I just read the A9 LCD has a higher resolution
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/sony-a7iii-vs-a9/
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Evf is also better
 
Riz_Guru said:
The EVF is a higher resolution too and runs at 130Hz

The AF system is faster/responsive scanning AF/AE at 60 times a second
AF system focus between during each frame due to no shutter / blackout.

It has a dedicate drive knob

It’s has a stronger body’s as both the back and lower plates are magnesium as apposed to plastic (better sealing?)

Longer product cycle

Possible better firmware R&D / budget


Oh it’s the A9 series, not A7 ..... Pro.
Think that’s it. :)
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Better firmware budget?? Lol

They just released a camera at less than half the price that has superior video features [emoji23]

Also the autofocus feels identical bar being able to track eyes with a high degree of accuracy seemingly

No doubt it's much better in silent mode and the blackout free shooting is really nice from the A9

Given the choice again I'd pick the A7III everytime over an A9
 
F/1.4 said:
Better firmware budget?? Lol

They just released a camera at less than half the price that has superior video features [emoji23]

Also the autofocus feels identical bar being able to track eyes with a high degree of accuracy seemingly

No doubt it's much better in silent mode and the blackout free shooting is really nice from the A9

Given the choice again I'd pick the A7III everytime over an A9
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I did say possibly ;) but everything I have been told by Sony and my camera dealership is that the video profiles and other firmware updates are coming to the Sony A9 and Sony has room for improvements on the Sony A9.

It probably feels identical but for the professional sports / event / wildlife market I am sure that the Sony A9 is the better focusing and tracking body compared to the Sony A7 III, I don't think Sony would cripple the Sony A9 that much.

You would say that you'd pick the Sony A7 III over the A9 as that's what you've done. However I would pick the Sony A9, but I am biased lol :D

Bottom line is that the Sony A9 is Sony's top flagship series otherwise they wouldn't have given it the higher series number. Something tells me Sony will give the Sony A9 users more firmware updates compared to other models.
 
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F/1.4 said:
Something tells me they A9 is capable of 4k60fps quite easily given the horsepower of the camera too.

The exclusion of picture profiles is very unusual and a definite minus for anyone that shoots video to the point of it being useless for anyone who shoots other Sony cameras for video

This guys post on it was interesting

https://www.eoshd.com/comments/topi...ectronic-shutter-picture-profile-limitations/
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From the information I had, Sony had a target date to release the Sony A9 and implementing the video profiles would have delayed that.
Sony said that the Sony A9's RS sensor design is more complicated compared to the standard sensors which run video profiles, they need more time to work on the firmware.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Maybe the A7smk3 wont ever come out and they will simply add picture profile on the a9 AND 4k and 60fps hehe
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Mark my words, Sony has some interesting planned for the Sony A7S III which will surpass the current A7 III 8-bit 4k spec.
I would guess the following specifications might be included ;)

12 bit - 4:2:2
4k 60fps
8k 24p
12mp BSI RS
8 stop IBIS
 
Anyone with experience of comparison with 1DXM2 using canon glass? E.g. for ice skating shows - spot lights, shallow dof, fast action.
 
Riz_Guru said:
From the information I had, Sony had a target date to release the Sony A9 and implementing the video profiles would have delayed that.
Sony said that the Sony A9's RS sensor design is more complicated compared to the standard sensors which run video profiles, they need more time to work on the firmware.
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To be fair the Sony 9 was always marketed at the professional sports / wildlife / event segment and never as a video body.
Strangely enough the Sony A9 produces some very sharp and colorful 4k video, some say better than the A7R III and perhaps A7 III but without the video profiles! 6k -> 4k etc
I am not a video shooter so I don't really need the profiles, would have just been nice to have on the spec sheet :D lol
 
Riz_Guru said:
To be fair the Sony 9 was always marketed at the professional sports / wildlife / event segment and never as a video body.
Strangely enough the Sony A9 produces some very sharp and colorful 4k video, some say better than the A7R III and perhaps A7 III but without the video profiles! 6k -> 4k etc
I am not a video shooter so I don't really need the profiles, would have just been nice to have on the spec sheet :D lol
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The A7III video is a 6k to 4k downsample. Same as A9
 
Well I just dont know what to do..

The Camera will be a nice gain as it will have stuff I want... such as Live View.. EVF... IBIS.... Eye AF

70-200 F4 will be find for me well I bloody hope so. As I just looked at some of the images I taken with my current 70-200 and a few are at 2.8 at the zoo must of been a dull day but hope to get away with it.

Kit lens there mix views on this from several places but with he AF ability of the A7iii will it be any good but must if Sony pairing them as a kit?

50mm 1.8 I was all set on to it but seem a bit put off.

I cant really afford any other lens just yet maybe in the summer if needed
 
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rookies said:
Well I just dont know what to do..

The Camera will be a nice gain as it will have stuff I want... such as Live View.. EVF... IBIS.... Eye AF

70-200 F4 will be find for me well I bloody hope so. As I just looked at some of the images I taken with my current 70-200 and a few are at 2.8 at the zoo must of been a dull day but hope to get away with it.

Kit lens there mix views on this from several places but with he AF ability of the A7iii will it be any good but must if Sony pairing them as a kit?

50mm 1.8 I was all set on to it but seem a bit put off.

I cant really afford any other lens just yet maybe in the summer if needed
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Personally I don't rate the 28-70mm as much as others do.

This isn't a terrible review IMO.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRVwqXb4nPY


My A7II just sold on ebay so think I am going for D750. All this chat about A7III is so tempting but I know I shouldn't. If I was getting the A7III, I wouldn't get the kit lens.
 
rookies said:
Well I just dont know what to do..

The Camera will be a nice gain as it will have stuff I want... such as Live View.. EVF... IBIS.... Eye AF

70-200 F4 will be find for me well I bloody hope so. As I just looked at some of the images I taken with my current 70-200 and a few are at 2.8 at the zoo must of been a dull day but hope to get away with it.

Kit lens there mix views on this from several places but with he AF ability of the A7iii will it be any good but must if Sony pairing them as a kit?

50mm 1.8 I was all set on to it but seem a bit put off.

I cant really afford any other lens just yet maybe in the summer if needed
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@rookies are you able to just get the following... ?

Sony A7 III
Sony FE 70-200mm f4
Sony Zeiss 55mm f1.8
 
rookies said:
Well I just dont know what to do..

The Camera will be a nice gain as it will have stuff I want... such as Live View.. EVF... IBIS.... Eye AF

70-200 F4 will be find for me well I bloody hope so. As I just looked at some of the images I taken with my current 70-200 and a few are at 2.8 at the zoo must of been a dull day but hope to get away with it.

Kit lens there mix views on this from several places but with he AF ability of the A7iii will it be any good but must if Sony pairing them as a kit?

50mm 1.8 I was all set on to it but seem a bit put off.

I cant really afford any other lens just yet maybe in the summer if needed
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Get the Samyang 35mm? 35mm is more versatile than 50mm if you don’t have anything else wider or longer. That’s what I might do!
 
JJ! said:
90mins and I’m off for a jolly to the camera store!
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Exciting times..... :D
I am avoiding going to my camera dealership as I know I might end up buying more lenses..... :D
 
i think some of the stores been holding stocks for the Show....
 
Tom Green said:
Personally I don't rate the 28-70mm as much as others do.

This isn't a terrible review IMO.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRVwqXb4nPY


My A7II just sold on ebay so think I am going for D750. All this chat about A7III is so tempting but I know I shouldn't. If I was getting the A7III, I wouldn't get the kit lens.
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Tom Toby will have his d750 in the ads very soon, very well looked after as any lab tecnician would :ROFLMAO:
 
Riz_Guru said:
@rookies are you able to just get the following... ?

Sony A7 III
Sony FE 70-200mm f4
Sony Zeiss 55mm f1.8
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My trouble I do like a walk about zoom..

I do plan to get a 55mm when I see one at the right price when I got the money Used possibly and sell my 50mm 1.8
 
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