The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Mike.P said:
That's impressive :oops: :$

I really need to try some astro as I am in the perfect area for it but having to be up at 4.30am for work most mornings means I don't get the chance.
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Just don't sleep ;)
In fact I believe you have a Pentax also? It comes with a inbuilt tracker too.
Was really tempted by the Pentax in the sales for that reason....
 
First outing with the a9 + Sony 200-600
Mixed feelings at the moment.
Think I prefer the a7R4a for resolution over the performance of the a9.
Definitely user issues than camera issues.
Plenty more experimenting to be done.
I was pleased to get this image of a Guillemot with prey and had planned when getting the shot to crop to a head and shoulders type of image, something I could have done easily with the a7R4 - hence the cropped tail feathers :rolleyes:
Enjoying the camera all the same and as for BIF - that's a whole new ball game.
Trying to find the subject in the viewfinder is a nightmare!! :LOL:
Great fun all the same ;)

Guillemot by Mike Stephen, on Flickr
 
mstphoto said:
First outing with the a9 + Sony 200-600
Mixed feelings at the moment.
Think I prefer the a7R4a for resolution over the performance of the a9.
Definitely user issues than camera issues.
Plenty more experimenting to be done.
I was pleased to get this image of a Guillemot with prey and had planned when getting the shot to crop to a head and shoulders type of image, something I could have done easily with the a7R4 - hence the cropped tail feathers :rolleyes:
Enjoying the camera all the same and as for BIF - that's a whole new ball game.
Trying to find the subject in the viewfinder is a nightmare!! :LOL:
Great fun all the same ;)

Guillemot by Mike Stephen, on Flickr
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It just take practise Mike- I'm on top of the a9 now - I still have an a7Riv - its gathering dust in my Peli case just now :)

BIF - I use the Lock On Auto focus - seems to work well enough :)

DSC00270 Gliding In by Les Moxon, on Flickr
 
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mstphoto said:
Ah, ok
I'll give that a go next time.
My problem is I use the monitor most of the time for landscapes and not used to finding the subject in the viewfinder for BIF
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here's mine

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mstphoto said:
Yes, that's what I had set it to.
It's finding the b++gers in the viewfinder I'm going to have to work at ;)
Cheers Les
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I twin that Lock on AF with Tracking Flexible spot Large - and use a back focus button too - seem to work OK for me on quicker stuff - good luck Mike :)
 
dancook said:
@woof woof

original ratio of moon to frame.

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Thanks for that Dan.

I've always fancied taking a nice moon picture but have never had a lens longer than 300mm until I got a 100-400mm for MFT but even with that I haven't got anything decent. I've used that lens on my 16mp GX80 so I'll try again with my 20mp GX9 and see if I can something half decent.
 
woof woof said:
Thanks for that Dan.

I've always fancied taking a nice moon picture but have never had a lens longer than 300mm until I got a 100-400mm for MFT but even with that I haven't got anything decent. I've used that lens on my 16mp GX80 so I'll try again with my 20mp GX9 and see if I can something half decent.
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I don't think my MFT moon shots have come out as well as my FF ones, but I think this isn't too bad, taken with the Panny 100-400mm (apologies for the Olly photo on the Sony thread ;))


P2180758 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr
 
snerkler said:
I don't think my MFT moon shots have come out as well as my FF ones, but I think this isn't too bad, taken with the Panny 100-400mm (apologies for the Olly photo on the Sony thread ;))
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That does look nice.

I'll have another go but I've tried handheld and with a tripod with no improvement but I suppose it could be something as simple as trying on the wrong night with unfriendly atmospherics. A nice moon picture is definitely on my to get list :D
 
I bought the Sony battery grip for my A7 III and it makes a massive comfort difference, especially with the added chunky grip in the portrait orientation.

I wish Sony would design the A9's and A1's with this built in, like the older Canon 1D/S/X models. It would also provide some visual difference to the lower end models - currently the A1 looks exactly like the A7 MK3/4 and you're left wondering why you spent £6k+ on it :eek::ROFLMAO:

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I suppose we all need to make our own minds up and ergonomics is often a personal thing but I like smaller kit and luckily I can just about juggle my cameras in portrait orientation without dropping them.
 
SDK^ said:
I bought the Sony battery grip for my A7 III and it makes a massive comfort difference, especially with the added chunky grip in the portrait orientation.

I wish Sony would design the A9's and A1's with this built in, like the older Canon 1D/S/X models. It would also provide some visual difference to the lower end models - currently the A1 looks exactly like the A7 MK3/4 and you're left wondering why you spent £6k+ on it :eek::ROFLMAO:
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I got the grip for my A1 yesterday. Took it out before work this morning and it does feel "better". It feels quite a bit heavier, but it's probably mostly psychological.
 
SDK^ said:
I bought the Sony battery grip for my A7 III and it makes a massive comfort difference, especially with the added chunky grip in the portrait orientation.

I wish Sony would design the A9's and A1's with this built in, like the older Canon 1D/S/X models. It would also provide some visual difference to the lower end models - currently the A1 looks exactly like the A7 MK3/4 and you're left wondering why you spent £6k+ on it :eek::ROFLMAO:

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I’m glad they don’t tbh, gives you the option of a smaller package or a bloater if you need it. With the Z9 and R3 you’re just stuck with bloaters all the time ;)
 
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nandbytes said:
In fact I believe you have a Pentax also? It comes with a inbuilt tracker too.
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I have had the tracker in my last 3 Pentax cameras and currently have 2 x K-1 FF bodies (not really sure how I aquired the spare tbh) that have it and I have never tried the atrotracer function, I have seen some good results from it though.

mstphoto said:
First outing with the a9 + Sony 200-600
Mixed feelings at the moment.
Think I prefer the a7R4a for resolution over the performance of the a9.
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That's the only reason I sold the A9, apart from some glaring ommissions on Sony's part (better touch screen, stacking) it was the perfect camera for me. Absolutely hated selling the 200-600mm as well.
 
Mike.P said:
I have had the tracker in my last 3 Pentax cameras and currently have 2 x K-1 FF bodies (not really sure how I aquired the spare tbh) that have it and I have never tried the atrotracer function, I have seen some good results from it though.



That's the only reason I sold the A9, apart from some glaring ommissions on Sony's part (better touch screen, stacking) it was the perfect camera for me. Absolutely hated selling the 200-600mm as well.
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On some occasions I miss the resolution but overall I'm much happier with the A9-II over the A7RIV. The RIV used to bug me how slow it could be at times (mainly to be able to use functions again after burst shooting) but also how long it took to review images, especially at 1:1. The A9-II isn't perfect in this regard, and slower than other cameras I've used but it's a lot better. One thing I don't think I could do without now is the drive and focus mode dial, makes a big difference for me.

The ideal camera is of course the A1 (or A1s that had a better LC screen) but it's soooo expensive.
 
snerkler said:
I’m glad they don’t tbh, give you the option of a smaller package or a bloater if you need it. With the Z9 and R3 you’re just stuck with bloaters all the time ;)
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I think there comes a price point where Sony needs to go with the built in grip. It adds that pro look and feel that adding a grip after fact does not do.
If people want the small form factor then there is the range of A7, A7R and A9 cameras to choose from. In my opinion, with the the A1 they need to differentiate the £6k camera body, from the £2-3k bodies.
 
SDK^ said:
I think there comes a price point where Sony needs to go with the built in grip. It adds that pro look and feel that adding a grip after fact does not do.
If people want the small form factor then there is the range of A7, A7R and A9 cameras to choose from. In my opinion, with the the A1 they need to differentiate the £6k camera body, from the £2-3k bodies.
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I really couldn't give a toss if someone knows my camera was £6k or not. It's nowt to do with anyone else.

I'm happy to have the grip when I need it and remove it when I don't to give me that flexibility.

EDIT - If having a built in grip had some functional benefit, then fair play.
 
snerkler said:
On some occasions I miss the resolution but overall I'm much happier with the A9-II over the A7RIV. The RIV used to bug me how slow it could be at times (mainly to be able to use functions again after burst shooting) but also how long it took to review images, especially at 1:1.

The ideal camera is of course the A1 (or A1s that had a better LC screen) but it's soooo expensive.
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As you say, the A1 is probably the best solution but it's still missing features from other makes that could easily be included (and should be for that price).

I am sitting on my cash for now, if Sony bring out the A7RV and it's a decent upgrade I may well jump back in but I have a feeling the rumoured Canon R7 due announcement end of month could be my ideal wildlife camera and I have my K-1's for full frame.

But then something else could come out in the meantime ..... :LOL:
 
SDK^ said:
I think there comes a price point where Sony needs to go with the built in grip. It adds that pro look and feel that adding a grip after fact does not do.
If people want the small form factor then there is the range of A7, A7R and A9 cameras to choose from. In my opinion, with the the A1 they need to differentiate the £6k camera body, from the £2-3k bodies.
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We'll clearly all have different thoughts on this, but I don't see the point in the bloated bodies when you have the option for grips to give you either or. Clearly there's a market for the big bodies, but as I say I find it odd. Cameras like the Z9 could just be the Z6 format but comes included with the battery grip, but that's just me ;)
 
GeordieStew said:
I really couldn't give a toss if someone knows my camera was £6k or not. It's nowt to do with anyone else.

I'm happy to have the grip when I need it and remove it when I don't to give me that flexibility.

EDIT - If having a built in grip had some functional benefit, then fair play.
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Nothing to do with what other people think. The points I motioned are for the user.
Having a built in grip allows more rear space for a larger screen, more (custom) buttons, perhaps another LCD/OLED display for shooting settings, histogram, buffer capacity etc.....

It's a £6.5k camera and differs very little on external user functionality over an A9 for half the price. BUT .. it has 8k video recording, that's useful :p
 
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SDK^ said:
I think there comes a price point where Sony needs to go with the built in grip. It adds that pro look and feel that adding a grip after fact does not do.
If people want the small form factor then there is the range of A7, A7R and A9 cameras to choose from. In my opinion, with the the A1 they need to differentiate the £6k camera body, from the £2-3k bodies.
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The problem is that the A1 is a 'do everything' camera - which means that there are people who will buy it and never use a VG with it, and wouldn't want the bigger body of an integrated grip.
Of course, with Sony's liking for having lots of different models, I'm almost surprised they don't do an A1G version which does have the VG, larger screen, etc - but as well as having the existing A1 :LOL:
 
SDK^ said:
It's a £6.5k camera and differs very little on external user functionality over an A9 for half the price. BUT .. it has 8k video recording, that's useful :p
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I must admit, I do struggle to see why the A1 is nearly £2.5k more expensive than the A9-II, doesn’t stop me wanting one though :lol:
 
Faldrax said:
The problem is that the A1 is a 'do everything' camera - which means that there are people who will buy it and never use a VG with it, and wouldn't want the bigger body of an integrated grip.
Of course, with Sony's liking for having lots of different models, I'm almost surprised they don't do an A1G version which does have the VG, larger screen, etc - but as well as having the existing A1 :LOL:
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Sure - I can't imagine many people buying the A1 actually need 30fps for photos,and/ or 8k video either.
 
SDK^ said:
Sure - I can't imagine many people buying the A1 actually need 30fps for photos,and/ or 8k video either.
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I think the same thing is true of many things people buy - there's a core set of functions that most use, the rest are things which different people use different combinations of.
Part of the reason I'm still shooting with my old A-Mount A900's is that I look at the cost to replace with,m say, an A7 and equivalent lenses, and then consider how often I'd actually 'need' the extra the A7 would give, and for me it's just not sensible to spend so much for what I'd gain (It's not that I don't have the cash, it's all the other things I want to spend it on as well!)
 
Faldrax said:
I think the same thing is true of many things people buy - there's a core set of functions that most use, the rest are things which different people use different combinations of.
Part of the reason I'm still shooting with my old A-Mount A900's is that I look at the cost to replace with,m say, an A7 and equivalent lenses, and then consider how often I'd actually 'need' the extra the A7 would give, and for me it's just not sensible to spend so much for what I'd gain (It's not that I don't have the cash, it's all the other things I want to spend it on as well!)
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Who ever said it was sensible? ;) :p
 
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