The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Know what you saying but after seeing those videos of the Real time AF that looks brilliant it make taking images easier and be easier for the mrs too.. The only thing i didn't like much on the A7iii was the handling but it did bother me too much. I wanted to give the nikon a go and i have and now ive done it so might move back to sony.. I feel sony are the only company that going to get better and better before the others and it think we all know that..

what do you actually shoot that required such fast AF? Asking as you only seem to post family walks on here so doesn’t give an idea of what you’re struggling with. A7iii is probably easily enough and has the same ergonomics as the A9
 
what do you actually shoot that required such fast AF? Asking as you only seem to post family walks on here so doesn’t give an idea of what you’re struggling with. A7iii is probably easily enough and has the same ergonomics as the A9

I dont post the sports ones on here as not allowed to I sometime go with a friend and take images of rugby match
 
Believe me or not i though about the A9 ii lol but reading around there not much of a improvement just the handing of the camera is better but that doesn't justify the extra £1300. I know what you mean about swapping gear but if i did swap to the gear i listed it will cost me the same to get the nikon lens for my current set up so it making me think twice about it wether to jump and spend the same or upgrade my current nikon lens.
I’ve considered the A9 time and time again tbh it’s a great camera. I’ll probably always ‘fancy one’ (and the A9-II) but I doubt I’ll ever get one. There’s always things to tempt us ;)
Agreed, most don't see the additional value in the A9ii though and theres nothing else on the market to challenge either A9/ii for overall performance/feature set.
The only thing for me is the FPS with mechanical shutter, but that’s a very costly feature ;)
Know what you saying but after seeing those videos of the Real time AF that looks brilliant it make taking images easier and be easier for the mrs too.. The only thing i didn't like much on the A7iii was the handling but it did bother me too much. I wanted to give the nikon a go and i have and now ive done it so might move back to sony.. I feel sony are the only company that going to get better and better before the others and it think we all know that..
TBH it wouldn’t surprise me if we see bigger leaps forward with Canikon in the short term. The A9-II hints that Sony are struggling to improve much on the A9, after all what else is there to add? Blazingly fast and accurate AF in all situations, stupidly high frame rates, weather proof, IBIS etc etc. Other than a global shutter there’s nowhere really to go. More mp maybe. I guess they could add some nice features from Olly such as live composite, live ND and hand held hi res.

Can they improve the A7iii much for the price point? But what if Canikon catch up to Sony? That’s a bigger leap forward surely? Don’t forget Nikon have made great class leading cameras, as have Canon, it’s not as though they don’t know how to make great cameras.
 
I dont post the sports ones on here as not allowed to I sometime go with a friend and take images of rugby match
I could shoot Rugby with the Z’s, you’ve also seen the series on the Z forum of the dog running towards the camera, hit every shot. The Z6 is a very capable camera, it’s just not ‘as good’ as the A9 (y)
 
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spend more time learning the camera is the message here I think.
Tbh it’s more that he needs to stop finding excuses to swap as I’ve said to him already. Nothing wrong with swapping if that’s what he wants to do, we all get our kicks in different ways, he just needs to stop looking for the Holy Grail as I’ve said already. I’m sure I can find flaws in any camera if I try ;)
 
spend more time learning the camera is the message here I think.

I know how to operate the camera thank you..

It the camera that kept hunting for AF when I was tracking in AF-C sometime i have to let go of shutter and press again to get it active.
 
Wont you lose on the Z?

£300 is all i will lose... Just that ive someone interested in it and he knows it basically new so happy to pay what i paid minus £300
 
There's a guy who seems to be having problems getting results he's happy with from his A6000...

https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/what-is-a-contrast-filter.703893/

He's posted previously...

https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/my-difficulties-going-from-film-to-digital.702907/
https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/t...ay-to-cope-with-lack-of-dynamic-range.702636/

If anyone can help...

Maybe it's just me but I have far fewer problems with blown highlights with my digital cameras than I ever did with film maybe because of the WYSIWYG and the histogram etc.

Not to be nasty, but the problem here is the photographer, rather than the kit.
 
Just been having a look at the ISO test on DP Review the A9 not as clear as a few am surprise the Z are clearer but not much thou.
 
Just been having a look at the ISO test on DP Review the A9 not as clear as a few am surprise the Z are clearer but not much thou.

Maybe 1/3 stop more chroma above iso6400. Will the Z get the shot in that light though? The z and mk3 will likely also have 2/3 to 1 stop more DR at base iso.
 
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Maybe 1/3 stop more chroma above iso6400. Will the Z get the shot in that light though?

Prob will but not as easy as the a7iii did. Is the a9 as clear as a7iii had no complaint with iso on a7iii thou
 
Tbh it’s more that he needs to stop finding excuses to swap as I’ve said to him already. Nothing wrong with swapping if that’s what he wants to do, we all get our kicks in different ways, he just needs to stop looking for the Holy Grail as I’ve said already. I’m sure I can find flaws in any camera if I try ;)
I kind of agree with that as it goes for most people. You're buying into a system where cameras come and go. That often means one manufacturer has an advantage for a while then it swaps to another and back again. OK thats not so true with mirrorless at the moment as Sony have been doing it for long than the others hence they are currently further along. All of the others will eventually catch up and there will be less of a gap. It then becomes a flip back and forth trying to get that slightly better performance. There is a reason why manufacturers employ pro's as 'ambassadors', its just to get us to believe we need to buy something else as our current kit is utterly useless (the same kit they were wax lyrical about a year or so early). The worst thing you can ever do is follow pro's where they talk about kit more than anything else or read review after review.

@rookies only you can say whether its truly worth it for yourself. No one else can tell you whether it is or not. I know how hard it is to make the swap, I'm still doing it a year later! (I've still got nikon bits hanging around unused). Making a swap isn't always the best route as there are always disadvantages to everything. It usually means either a big cost difference swapping like for like, or downgrading to lower quality kit with lower performance.

So far moving to Sony seems to have worked ok for me because my biggest driver was downgrading to lower weight kit. From that point its working as I'm more likely to walk further taking a risk on the off chance of something may work out (often it doesn't). I am missing the extra stop of aperture having dropped to f5.6 wildlife lens but generally most of my wildlife isn't that taxing on camera systems. You probably wouldn't be able to see the difference in images. I do miss the weather protection of nikon but then I've always used rain covers so its less of a risk really.
 
Prob will but not as easy as the a7iii did. Is the a9 as clear as a7iii had no complaint with iso on a7iii thou

The a7iii and a9 are pretty much the same at high iso, it's only the base iso DR that the a7iii has the advantage if you push a lot in post. Nikon has slightly cleaner and always has been in the past, they are very good at getting rid of chroma.
 
I kind of agree with that as it goes for most people. You're buying into a system where cameras come and go. That often means one manufacturer has an advantage for a while then it swaps to another and back again. OK thats not so true with mirrorless at the moment as Sony have been doing it for long than the others hence they are currently further along. All of the others will eventually catch up and there will be less of a gap. It then becomes a flip back and forth trying to get that slightly better performance. There is a reason why manufacturers employ pro's as 'ambassadors', its just to get us to believe we need to buy something else as our current kit is utterly useless (the same kit they were wax lyrical about a year or so early). The worst thing you can ever do is follow pro's where they talk about kit more than anything else or read review after review.

@rookies only you can say whether its truly worth it for yourself. No one else can tell you whether it is or not. I know how hard it is to make the swap, I'm still doing it a year later! (I've still got nikon bits hanging around unused). Making a swap isn't always the best route as there are always disadvantages to everything. It usually means either a big cost difference swapping like for like, or downgrading to lower quality kit with lower performance.

So far moving to Sony seems to have worked ok for me because my biggest driver was downgrading to lower weight kit. From that point its working as I'm more likely to walk further taking a risk on the off chance of something may work out (often it doesn't). I am missing the extra stop of aperture having dropped to f5.6 wildlife lens but generally most of my wildlife isn't that taxing on camera systems. You probably wouldn't be able to see the difference in images. I do miss the weather protection of nikon but then I've always used rain covers so its less of a risk really.

For start if your doing BIF then your best staying with sony as the Z would prob get it but not as easy as the sony would
 
Which FW was the live af put in
 
For start if your doing BIF then your best staying with sony as the Z would prob get it but not as easy as the sony would
Andy buy a D500 and all your troubles will disappear and the hit rate will vastly improve.(y)
 
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What I though on the A9 the af tracking box is coloured not grey like a7iii just watch a latest review on you tube he said it grey and he on FW 5
 
What I though on the A9 the af tracking box is coloured not grey like a7iii just watch a latest review on you tube he said it grey and he on FW 5

It didn’t give the option to change the colour until it added animal eye af in v6.
 
Ah so in FW 6 we can have grey box as red is it? Damn will have try find someone with older os on there Mac
 
Prob will but not as easy as the a7iii did. Is the a9 as clear as a7iii had no complaint with iso on a7iii thou
If you use DXO results as a comparison then then in terms of noise performance it goes A7iii > A9 > Z6. In terms of DR at base it goes A7iii > Z6 > A9. All are great at both though, technique and correct exposure will play far more of a role than any spec differences.
 
Out of interest does the no blackout EVF of the A9 just work at 20fps, or if you set frame rate to say 10fps would you still get zero blackout?
 
Out of interest does the no blackout EVF of the A9 just work at 20fps, or if you set frame rate to say 10fps would you still get zero blackout?

I believe you get zero black out all the time even single
 
Out of interest does the no blackout EVF of the A9 just work at 20fps, or if you set frame rate to say 10fps would you still get zero blackout?

All the time. Although I would not get an A9 just for that. It is amazing. But I have never not been able to track using the A7iii at 10fps.

Then again I’m not tracking anything too fast or too hard to track. Maybe birds and motorsport it comes in to its own.
 
All the time. Although I would not get an A9 just for that. It is amazing. But I have never not been able to track using the A7iii at 10fps.

Then again I’m not tracking anything too fast or too hard to track. Maybe birds and motorsport it comes in to its own.

Has yours come out of box? Why did you change from a7iii to a9
 
Has yours come out of box? Why did you change from a7iii to a9

I have not changed, just got both! It came available at a price I couldn’t resist and I if I change my mind I lose zero pennies. Was a bit of a no brainier.

Still in box yep. I haven’t taken a photo in 3 weeks now. Just been too busy with work and when I’m not I’m attending work events with the high flying misses!

This weekend maybe! If not I will build one of those glass cabinets which seem quite popular these days.
 
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