The 2014 Season F1 Thread

two secs of supersofts, one set of softs for a short stint? They were competitive on the super softs but possibly will get caught on the start?
 
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Is it the same team of wheel changers for both drivers?
 
Yes. Interesting how it's always Hamilton with the slower stops, usually by a second. I've noticed this in other races

Races Hamilton Rosberg

Malaysia 3.1 2.5
2 3.8 -
3 2.8 -

Bahrain 2.7 2.9

China 2.9 3.0
2 3.9 3.0

Spain 3.8 2.8
2 4.3 3.0

Canada 3.6 3.1
2nd 2.9 4.5

Austria 3.5 2.6
2 4.0 3.0
 
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Ted said on Sky that Hamilton was too far in to the pit box on his first stop meaning the crew had to shuffle over and there was a damaged brake 'tin' on his second stop so the wheel couldn't go on quite so quickly.
 
I heard that and it certainly makes a difference to the pit stop time, but China, Spain, Canada? I'm sure if he was losing time there it would have been noted and corrected already, or is it that Nico is better at the mind games.
 
So they alter the rules for 2015
Standing starts after a red flag ??????? That should spice it up if someone gets injured or worse
New regs on the noses of the cars which could, suprise suprise, affect Mercedes
plus another load of serious incidentles
Thank the lord that the FIA are on top of everything
 
Yeah, disapointed with the changes. It's a huge change this year and the teams need a couple of years to adapt to this.
 
2014 FORMULA 1 SANTANDER BRITISH GRAND PRIX


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Silverstone
Race Date: 06 Jul 2014
First Grand Prix: 1950
Number of Laps: 52
Circuit Length: 5.891 km
Race Distance: 306.198 km
Lap Record: 1:33.401 - M Webber (2013)

UK Times
Fri 04 July 2014
Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30
Sat 05 July 2014
Practice 3 10:00 - 11:00
Qualifying 13:00
Sun 06 July 2014
Race 13:00

Previous Winners
2013 Nico Rosberg Mercedes Silverstone
2012 Mark Webber Red Bull Silverstone
2011 Fernando Alonso Ferrari Silverstone
2010 Mark Webber Red Bull Silverstone
2009 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Silverstone
2008 Lewis Hamilton McLaren Silverstone
2007 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari Silverstone
2006 Fernando Alonso Renault Silverstone
2005 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren Silverstone
2004 Michael Schumacher Ferrari Silverstone
2003 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari Silverstone
2002 Michael Schumacher Ferrari Silverstone
2001 Mika Hakkinen McLaren Silverstone
2000 David Coulthard McLaren Silverstone
1999 David Coulthard McLaren Silverstone
1998 Michael Schumacher Ferrari Silverstone
1997 Jacques Villeneuve Williams Silverstone
1996 Jacques Villeneuve Williams Silverstone
1995 Johnny Herbert Benetton Silverstone
1994 Damon Hill Williams Silverstone

Alonso 2013 on board
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John Watson 1981 onboard - funky music :)
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Nico Rosberg’s Austrian Grand Prix victory means he has now won more races than his championship-winning father. It was the sixth of his 155-race career, giving him one more than Keke Rosberg managed in his 114 starts.

Rosberg now has a better average qualifying position and has led more laps than Hamilton.

Rosberg also became the 11th diver in F1 history to score eight podium finishes in a row. The only drivers to do so without winning a world championship are Juan Pablo Montoya and Carlos Reutemann.

The all-time record is held by Rosberg’s former team mate Michael Schumacher, who reached 19. Rosberg is closer to beating his current team mate’s tally: Hamilton racked up nine in a row in his first nine F1 starts.

The last pole position for Williams was Pastor Maldonado’s at the 2012 Spanish Grand Prix. With Valtteri Bottas joining Massa on the front row, it was the first time Williams had claimed the foremost spots on the grid since the 2003 German Grand Prix, when Juan Pablo Montoya took pole position ahead of Ralf Schumacher.

Following his career-best qualifying performance Bottas went on to lead an F1 race for the first time and take his first podium finish. Massa came in fourth fourth, giving Williams their best two-car result since Nick Heidfeld and Mark Webber finished second and third at Monaco in 2005.

While Williams are on the up, Sauber are enduring one of the worst spells in their history. They’ve failed to score for the last eight races in a row, which is their longest point-less streak since 1998.

A double retirement for Toro Rosso means they have the worst reliability rate so far this year. The STR9 has broken down eight times in races compared to Lotus’s seven.

Austria marked the 200th race start for Kimi Raikkonen. During that time he has won 20 races (10%), set 40 fastest laps (20%) and 16 pole positions (8%).



Penalty points so far
Jules Bianchi 4
Pastor Maldonado 4
Valtteri Bottas 2
Kevin Magnussen 2
Adrian Sutil 2
Marcus Ericsson 2


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....and i'll be there :)
Woodcote A on sunday.
Don't think I'll bother with the camera though. Just going to enjoy the racing.
 
I've never attended a GP, only been to a test session. I reckon I got far better pix at that than would be possible for us mere mortals over the GP weekend. A friend had club membership so got me inside the track as her guest so I could shoot the drivers as they did practice starts at the end of the pit lane. Also had pit lane access during the dinner break and a brief ask (in French) got me very close to the Renault garage.
 
Someone's not happy Ferrari are out
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What's with the message on the pit lane "bernie says think before you drive"?
Is that aimed at Maldonado?
 
Byker28i said:
What's with the message on the pit lane "bernie says think before you drive"?
Is that aimed at Maldonado?
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Or hamilton after today
If your team mates still on the track he is a danger as Lewis has just found out

He goes out in front of nico in practise now after monarco maybe he should have stayed in front

Lewis is faster than Nico but slower in the head
 
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You wonder how much the let nico past message affected his decision. I think Nico's side of the garage is winning the psycho war.
 
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You wonder how much the let nico past message affected his decision. I think Nico's side of the garage is winning the psycho war.
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In the interview afterwards Lewis Hamilton sounded shell shocked at what he had done. It could be interesting to see if he can get over it.
 
Nico is miles ahead on petulant Lewis .Lewis forgets he's in a very privileged position and at the moment he's not producing on the mental side of things either
 
mxfun said:
Nico is miles ahead on petulant Lewis .Lewis forgets he's in a very privileged position and at the moment, he's not producing on the mental side of things either
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mxfun said:
Nico is miles ahead on petulant Lewis .Lewis forgets he's in a very privileged position and at the moment he's not producing on the mental side of things either
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I've long seen Lewis Hamilton as a Nigel Mansell for the new millennium - and that's not a compliment!

FWIW, I've been watching this weekend's GP2 and I've already seen one doubtful stewards' decision that went against Buxton and Chandok's commentary and my own view of what was shown on screen. Ironically Nigel Mansell is one of the stewards this weekend. Silverstone and the RACMSA has a history of interfering in race results and as I sit here at 10am on Sunday morning, I'd be very surprised if Hamilton were to be penalised for example, for exceeding track limits, but I wouldn't be surprised if, for example, Rosberg was! After all, he's got form innee?
 
Didn't happen though. Alonso got warned, vettel had just as many offs.
Good win by Hamilton, the new trophys looked cheap and nasty

Great effort by button in a much slower car
 
For the racing fans it was a very good race Bottas 14 to 2, Alonso and Alonso vs Vettal, Lewis from 6th to 2nd and then winning and of course Riccardo
For Bernie excitment racing fans, Kimmy and Massa, Grojohn and Maldanardo
 
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i enjoyed it. watched the Nigel Mansell thing on sky afterward, that was interesting but Nige wasnt...
 
I enjoyed the race, would have been nice to see Lewis and Nico fight it out after Lewis kind off lucked into the better tyre with the alternative strategy that Toto hinted at, who'd a thought the harder tire would be the quicker one.
Seb and Fernando was fun to watch though, both having rants on the radio while driving, concentrate on what your doing surely :)

Thought the top 3 were very quite in the room before the podium, not sure what was going on in Lewis's head then, maybe just taking it all in after the mess up on Saturday.
 
Yves Geza said:
Silverstone and the RACMSA has a history of interfering in race results and as I sit here at 10am on Sunday morning, I'd be very surprised if Hamilton were to be penalised for example, for exceeding track limits, but I wouldn't be surprised if, for example, Rosberg was! After all, he's got form innee?
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Given that it's an international series, the whole judicial procedure will not involve the MSA (and it never involves the venue owners, as they have no involvement in the conduct of the event taking place - the event organising club / body will hire the venue from the owners, the licensed officials, marshalls etc. running the event will be party to any judicial procedures as appropriate, along with the driver or entrant, as appropriate. The venue people will be there to do things like rebuild the armco / tyre barriers if it gets knocked down.)

My discipline almost never has judicial, thankfully. We just get mutterings in the paddock about cars being illegal for their class, to which I used to say "money on the table" if any got back to me. No properly completed protest accompanied by the appropriate fee was ever submitted to the secretary of the meeting while I was in charge (thankfully, again).
 
PaulF said:
Thought the top 3 were very quite in the room before the podium, not sure what was going on in Lewis's head then, maybe just taking it all in after the mess up on Saturday.
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He was probably practising for the interview on how to be sorry for Nico with a straight face
 
Seems like the Mercs have a few weaknesses. Herr Wolff said that LH's 'box was "younger" than NR's - presumably because LH's car had DNFed a couple of times so the 'box had done fewer laps.

Keeps it all a little more interesting though!
 
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Seems like the Mercs have a few weaknesses. Herr Wolff said that LH's 'box was "younger" than NR's - presumably because LH's car had DNFed a couple of times so the 'box had done fewer laps.

Keeps it all a little more interesting though!
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They seem a little worried by the temperature at hockenhiem as well this screwed the electronics in canada
 
That's a b****r! So they're going to have to run the damn things only two and a half seconds faster than the field instead of the full three!! :(

Though it could be they're having real problems with that long shafted turbo installation and the hot lump of motor, shrouded behind the roll hoop!
 
I'm a big fan of F1.

I am McLaren through and through, but I cheer the loudest for Lewis Hamilton. I've supported him since his debut and I will support him wherever he goes. Jenson is a very close second, mind you.
 
Fia set to ban fric suspension for german gp onwards They will consider a delay till 2015 if all the teams agree Ho Ho
Mercedes will probably be disadvantaged
Fric has been around since 2008 and round 10 this year its deemed to infringe the rules, smells a bit to me
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881
 
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Anyone running a book on which red team will vote for the ban?
 
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Anyone running a book on which red team will vote for the ban?
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There are two teams with red being prominent and I bet both will vote the same way
 
The Spanish sports newspaper Marca reports that the FIA is also considering clamping down on the rate and flow of hybrid power from the new 2014 'power units'.
A source was quoted as saying that while the actual combustion engines produced by Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault this year are remarkably close in performance, the big advantage enjoyed by Mercedes is in the 'hybrid' areas.

Should this thread now be moved to the offical joke section on here
 
LOL

The Ferrari International Assistance are really starting to be quite overt at bringing in handicaps to allow certain teams to become competitive again...
 
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Anyone running a book on which red team will vote for the ban?
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fuzzyedges said:
There are two teams with red being prominent and I bet both will vote the same way
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As most of the teams run the FRIC system which helps keep the cars at a constant ride height thus helping the aero qualities I'd doubt Red Bull would want to get rid as their chassis/aero is their strong point. Without it they'd be stuck with 'that' engine and no strong advantage elsewhere to make up the difference!
 
Also, on the FIA FRIC decision, what a joke. It's been used since 2008 by Lotus and most of the current cars are designed on it.
How busy can the FIA be for it to take 6 years to decide it may not be legal.

As I read it, the system will be banned for Germany (next race) unless all teams agree to postpone the ban to 2015.

As with all things in F1/FIA this all seems a bit vague in places. Charlie thinks the system 'could be called into question' and it 'could be in breach of article 3.15 of F1's technical regs'. Note 'could' not 'is'.
Guess if it's banned under those terms a team could run the FRIC system and appeal against any penalty that resulted, off to court this sport goes again, possibly!

That Technical Reg basically says anything that affects aero must be attached to the chassis and not move, take the FRIC stance a bit further and you 'could' argue that the whole suspension, shocks, springs,dampers the lot, has an influence over the aero depending to what degree the car rolls in a corner, how about the tyres? they have an effect, camber etc and they certainly move!
 
from what has been said charlie has asked for all the tech drawings from every team that runs fric and dosnt like what he has seen
That dosnt nessesarilly mean every team is in his opinion in breach of 3.15
It will be interesting to see on what grounds frics breachs 3.15 as its got to be more than pitch and yaw otherwise the anti roll bars would be banned as well that control roll

Also it has to be a unanimus decison from all teams and I dont think all are running frics but it seems Mercedes are running it the best so they would be the hardest hit
craig scarboroughs view
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114890
Eric bouliers view
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114891
God knows how difficult it will be to design it out of the exsisting chassis
and they wonder why the audiances are fading
This is just making a mockery of the sport and its the reason why the core fans are starting to be turned off
 
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Mercedes to remove fric for germany and it is expected Red Bull to follow suit
Lauda is calling on the FIA to be precise that frics contravenes 3.15 and not potentially contravenes
Teams in the frame for lodging complaints at germany are Mc larean Caterham and of course Ferrari
The question is if Mercedes and Red bull dont have frics and ferrai dont remove theirs will red bull lodge a complaint against Ferrari just to clear up the fact of is it legal or not if charlie is still dithering over the is it isnt it legal
 
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