The 2014 Season F1 Thread

KevC said:
The race choices are selected by the BBC and Sky. If I remember rightly, last year, the BBC got first choice so maybe this year Sky got to go first and bagged Monaco.
It was something like BBC got first track choice, then sky, then BBC got to choose 3 more, then sky 3, and so on but BBC weren't allowed 3 consecutive live races. That gave Sky a chance to have some showcase races over the BBC.
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Not likely, Sky show all the races live (as well as all practice sessions and qualifying sessions), it's the BBC that chooses on a budget (nothing to do with Sky).
 
KevC said:
The race choices are selected by the BBC and Sky. If I remember rightly, last year, the BBC got first choice so maybe this year Sky got to go first and bagged Monaco.
It was something like BBC got first track choice, then sky, then BBC got to choose 3 more, then sky 3, and so on but BBC weren't allowed 3 consecutive live races. That gave Sky a chance to have some showcase races over the BBC.
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BBC race coverage was all about money. It was costing them £1m a race to cover F1 and with licence fee frozen and cuts across the company, this was once of the costs they felt they could do without. Instead they are covering a few races live and the rest through a highlights programme. From a business point of view it makes sense. Other programmes such as the natural history unit programmes, top gear, childrens programmes, dramas, all can be sold to other outlets and provide an income. Live sport is just for viewing figures and sky were throwing huge resources at it. The BBC decided not to compete.
 
Dave1 said:
Not likely, Sky show all the races live (as well as all practice sessions and qualifying sessions), it's the BBC that chooses on a budget (nothing to do with Sky).
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I know Sky have all the races, but they and the BBC have an agreement to divide up the races so that the BBC gets a fair shout at the ones they have and also Sky have a fair shout at the ones they can use exclusively to pull in viewers. Neither channel is allowed to have 3 consecutive exclusive live races. The first year they did it, the BBC chose Monaco, Silverstone and took a gamble that the championship would go to the end and picked Brazil as their first 3 selections. They also wanted Spa, Singapore and Monza but that would have given them 3 consecutive live races (which they're not allowed in the agreement) so they had to drop Monza. Each company alternates in their selections until they've decided on the BBC's exclusive races.

The year after, Sky was allowed the first pick and chose Monaco, which is why the BBC didn't have it.
 
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KevC said:
I know Sky have all the races, but they and the BBC have an agreement to divide up the races so that the BBC gets a fair shout at the ones they have and also Sky have a fair shout at the ones they can use exclusively to pull in viewers. Neither channel is allowed to have 3 consecutive exclusive live races. The first year they did it, the BBC chose Monaco, Silverstone and took a gamble that the championship would go to the end and picked Brazil as their first 3 selections. They also wanted Spa, Singapore and Monza but that would have given them 3 consecutive live races (which they're not allowed in the agreement) so they had to drop Monza. Each company alternates in their selections until they've decided on the BBC's exclusive races.

The year after, Sky was allowed the first pick and chose Monaco, which is why the BBC didn't have it.
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Actually, the deal works as follows:

Because of the way the BBC and Sky deal works, both sides pick races. The races that BBC pick will be shown live on BBC One and Sky Sports F1, while the races that Sky pick will be shown exclusively live on Sky Sports F1, with highlights on BBC One.

The picks go as follows:

- BBC pick three races (pick 1, 2 and 3)
- Sky pick three races (pick 4, 5 and 6)
- BBC pick one race (pick 7)
- Sky pick one race (pick 8)
- BBC pick one race (pick 9)
- Sky pick one race (pick 10)

This continues until every race has been picked.
 
Yes.
You said the BBC choices have nothing to do with Sky, but they do.
 
meanwhile, in Monaco....

did Rosberg do that deliberately???
 
Matt said:
meanwhile, in Monaco....

did Rosberg do that deliberately???
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Looked like it to me, even the first time I saw it, even more sure after the replays, and then to reverse while qualifying was still ongoing...
 
under investigaton now, I think the Rosberg/Hamilton Buddy Buddy is now over..
 
its the reversing bit h might get into trouble for, if he just parked at the end of the escape it might not have been in the way, looked dodgy as hell going into it!
 
There we go. End of argument.
It wasn't deliberate

Nico Rosberg faces no action for his error In Q3 he stays Pole Position for tomorrow's race
 
Yes its all over of course it wasnt deliberate, would nico do that
Luckily it was the safest place to park on the circuit
Lewis says he will settle it the senna / prost way
The team has a lot of calming down to do or there will be a lot of silver and green bits all over monaco tommorow
Expect one car to be nobled
 
Lewis has made himself look a bit silly really. He's effectively accused his team mate of cheating.
 
Looked like too much energy harvesting in the braking zone too me, so effectively too much rear brake bias. I don't think Nico is a cheat like Schumacher.. Lewis just needs to suck it up..
 
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Lewis has made himself look a bit silly really. He's effectively accused his team mate of cheating.Kev C




From where I was sitting I could understand that
On a last lap dash like lewis does and, any stopped car at Monarco gets a yellow, strange handling of Nicos car, tight side to side steering and a lock up, park in a safe place so no damage to the merc
Yeah I reckon he may feel a little cheated
 
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I think i'd feel the same as Hamilton, Rosberg could have left the car at the end of the run off. should make for a nice spicy rest of season!
 
If it was a trick, which I actually tend to doubt, it was such a beautifully subtle one, that my respect for Nico goes up a lot! :clap:

Of such is motor racing
 
Anybody seen a video of rosberg reversing ?
Nico said that he didnt know where lewis was until he started reversing up ?????
30 seconds left of Q3 why start reversing onto the track whilst cars were present surely there was no rush
If Nico makes the first corner first (intact) his mirrors will be filled with lewis, unless Merc are very creative
 
Daniel Ricciardo post qualifying interview was a good watch. Hope Eddie Jordan's banter about Mercedes taking each other other and Ricciardo winning comes true.
 
Hamilton made himself look a right dick in the interview after qualifying. Someone need to teach him how to have some grace and accept that s**t happens sometimes and thats life. To say he was a couple of tenths up and imply that he would taken pole was silly. He was slower than Rosberg in the final sector all through qualifying. He's had a good run and driven really well, superbly sometimes, but Rosberg is bloody quick and easily capable of beating Hamilton.
 
Capable, but not easily capable.. I just hope that we end up discussing a great race and not a stupid incident in turn one...
 
Hmm... disappointed with Lewis today. He had a chance to demonstrate some class on the podium today and by not even shaking Nico's hand, he just came across as a sore loser... Poor show..
 
GeeJay57 said:
Hmm... disappointed with Lewis today. He had a chance to demonstrate some class on the podium today and by not even shaking Nico's hand, he just came across as a sore loser... Poor show..
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Agree totally. If only some of Jenson Buttons interview diplomacy and grace had rubbed off during their time together.
 
GeeJay57 said:
Hmm... disappointed with Lewis today. He had a chance to demonstrate some class on the podium today and by not even shaking Nico's hand, he just came across as a sore loser... Poor show..
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Didn't see Ricciardo shaking anyone's hand either but I only saw the highlights show on Aunty.
 
GeeJay57 said:
Hmm... disappointed with Lewis today. He had a chance to demonstrate some class on the podium today and by not even shaking Nico's hand, he just came across as a sore loser... Poor show..
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Very hard to do when you think the guy that beat you used unsportsman like antics to do it
Its quite possable the hepling hand from that side of the garage isnt being extended either
Lets see what canada brings If the car holds up (williams blew a merc so they arnt indestuctable) he may just do good there
 
fuzzyedges said:
Very hard to do when you think the guy that beat you used unsportsman like antics to do it
Its quite possable the hepling hand from that side of the garage isnt being extended either
Lets see what canada brings If the car holds up (williams blew a merc so they arnt indestuctable) he may just do good there
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I agree that it would be hard to do, which is why he should have at least appeared to be bigger than the issue. Nico was too exuberant on Saturday, which would have been a bit of a wind up for Lewis. Yesterday Lewis had the chance to rise above and he didn't take it.

The other thing that won't have helped his cause is publicly comparing Mercedes with McLaren. He is now working for a German (management) team, they will not be interested in or impressed by Lewis's remarks. If anything they will be more aligned with Nico. In my own experience, German management do not take kindly to criticism, they see it as an affront to their authority. You could hear it in Tito Wolf's tone yesterday when interviewed about the strategy around the safety car. He was very emphatic that they have rules and will stick to them whatever, and from a team perspective the strategy was correct - maximum points.

I have no doubt that Lewis has more driving talent than Nico, but he is going to need more than that to beat him to the championship this year.
 
Lewis just looks like a bit of a sore loser.

He won 4 races on the trot and Rosberg was 2nd in all of them and, although Nico looked unhappy, he was still upbeat about things. It happens once to Hamilton and he's acting like all his toys were taken away. He needs to suck it up a bit and just get on with racing.
 
I think Hamilton and Alonso are probably the 2 best drivers on the grid but when I see him behave like that it makes me want someone else to win. Brilliant driver but a complete dick when things dont go his own way. He's going to find himself losing support within the team if he carries on.
 
Turns out that Hamilton hasn't exactly been playing by the rules, previously.

He turned up his engine, in Barca, despite being told which mode to use, by the team. He had to apologise to Nico, who stayed with the prescribed mode. Nico accepted Hamilton's apology, but Hamilton subsequently refused to shake hands after Nico's win. A bit shameful IMHO
 
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hes been acting a bit of a tart this weekend, which is a shame as i agree with whoever said that him and alonso are the best drivers.

am quite impressed with Riciardo, showing a bit of class there and showing Vettel how to do it.
 
Gaz J said:
I think Hamilton and Alonso are probably the 2 best drivers on the grid but when I see him behave like that it makes me want someone else to win. Brilliant driver but a complete d*** when things dont go his own way. He's going to find himself losing support within the team if he carries on.
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Are you talking about alonso? After all he threw his toys out when Lewis started beating him, destabilised the garage, refused to share info,

Of course there was also that crash that allowed him to win in Singapore, that he knew nothing about, same as he knew nothing about Ferrari info at the wrong team, but could tell the fia all about it...

Seems vettel has webers car/luck this year.
 
Alonso is a great driver. Yes he had his moments with a bit of thumb sucking at maclaren but he is a mega driver. Not many would have made the ferrari as competitive as he has
 
Ah but gaz, we were talking driver tantrums :)

Hamilton is by far the best racer, alonso possibly the most complete driver. Vettel is getting outclassed this year by Ricardo, as the car is raw and he doesn't like that, can't find the balance. Hamilton has been good for nico, really pulled his talent out.

Whoever said f1 is boring.
 
For some years, the racing in F1 has been boring - to some extent settled in quali. The interest these days is more in the politics and the mechanical side of things, especially with the massive rule changes this season!
 
Nod said:
For some years, the racing in F1 has been boring - to some extent settled in quali. The interest these days is more in the politics and the mechanical side of things, especially with the massive rule changes this season!
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Monaco excepted, the rules package at the moment makes overtaking possible so it's not the procession it once was. I don't think anything can be done to make it possible to overtake without taking a massive risk at Monaco, except perhaps making them race formula Fords that weekend.
 
Comfortably Numb said:
Turns out that Hamilton hasn't exactly been playing by the rules, previously.

He turned up his engine, in Barca, despite being told which mode to use, by the team. He had to apologise to Rico, who stayed with the prescribed mode. Rico accepted Hamilton's apology, but Hamilton subsequently refused to shake hands after Rico's win. A bit shameful IMHO
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Also turns out that Nico did the same in Bahrain, apologised to Lewis who then did the same in Spain.

As for Monaco, I think the way Nico celebrated pole on Saturday was a bit off really and led to the bad feeling that followed on Sunday. Most would have celebrated a bit less enthusiastically given the manner in which it was gained. To those who mentioned that Nico was stronger in the last sector all weekend, Lewis was stronger in the 2nd sector all weekend and where Nico had his off was the very start of the 2nd sector, from that point on Lewis knew he would not be able to record a 2nd sector time quicker than he had done previously while passing waved yellows.
Lewis has also been quoted in one paper saying he was shown something in the data on Saturday evening that he could only smile at so maybe he has a better understanding of what went on on Saturday?
 
I didn't see Saturday's quali but I understand that NR was reversing back down the escape road - surely a no-no?
 
Nod said:
I didn't see Saturday's quali but I understand that NR was reversing back down the escape road - surely a no-no?
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Apparently not!
The only rule concerning reversing is that you are not allowed to reverse in the pit lane only, out on track is not against the rules as such but would be considered a problem if you impeded another drive (causing a collision or causing another driver to have to take avoiding action). The stewards on Saturday did not look into the reversing at all.
 
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