That expensive Siggy SD1...

thats a fairly big jump in price from what they thought it was going to be sold for last year !!
 
woof woof said:
It looks like an impressive mid range APS-C DSLR body with very good IQ which seems to be challengng the best full frame models
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only thing is that the best FF models are ~ 3-4 years old & about to be replaced themselves with hopefully better performing models ...
& probably at 1/2 the price of the SD1.
 
We'll have to wait and see what the new FF models are like. If they up the mp count as rumoured it may well be a case of one step forward and two steps back.
 
I doubt it, look at where we have gone with APS-C sensors over the last 3-4 years - ~50% higher Mp but also gained a couple of stops of high ISO performance at the same time.
That experience/knowledge should carry over to FF sensors too.
 
Wow, I didn't realise just how expensive it was.

Will anyone buy one at that price point???
 
You can only use Sigma lenses which is the real kick in the teeth, who is going to buy one when you can get a 645D for a bit more or a D3X or Leica M9?
 
Would you buy one if it was priced at 5D II level though? Might be worth a look then, but not at the price it is just now. Don't Sigma usually release these cameras at a ridiculous price and 9 months later they are reduced by thousands of dollars?
 
Sigma did talk last year about it being priced around the 7D level and at that price I would definitely buy. At 5D2 price, I'd probably buy. I still miss my SD10. Sigma are completely bonkers to price it so high.
 
If the dynamic range and detail are better than the full frame cameras of the day or maybe just about equal I'm sure that it'd find buyers and have a fan base.

We're all used to stupid initial prices, Canon are pretty bad at this too, but for this Siggy to become a realistic proposition and to sell in number the price would have to plummet more than the normal rip off initial RRP does to become street price.
 
The Sigma 200-500 f/2.8 started about £22,000+ and now it is down to about £13,000. Still a ludicrous price, but Sigma do seem to drop prices quite a lot. I don't see how they can make any money with a £4k sensor in a £750 body and drop the price to an acceptable level. Plus using only using Sigma lenses is a tad ironic. How do these Sigma ideas even get off the drawing board never mind into production?
 
I think it's a family owned business isn't it? I think they just do what they want and answer to no one, I suppose that could explain it.

In some ways I think it's good that we have companies willing to do what we think of a barmy things :)
 
woof woof said:
I think it's a family owned business isn't it? I think they just do what they want and answer to no one, I suppose that could explain it.

In some ways I think it's good that we have companies willing to do what we think of a barmy things :)
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In this case, I think that might be the most plausible explanation. For a long time Masao Yamaki has had a dream for Sigma to become a major camera manufacturer, but he is getting on now and not in the best of health.

Foveon sensor technology is great in theory but has never lived up to its promise and this camera is unlikely to change that. Not that anyone is likely to buy one - a very average camera, a unique lens mount, a quirky sensor and a crazy price tag :thinking: I can't see it being a big seller even at a quarter of the quoted price.

No other manufacturer seems keen to take on Foveon technology and develop it. Maybe that's a shame but there must be good reasons and we seem to get by pretty well with CMOS and CCD alternatives.
 
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HoppyUK said:
No other manufacturer seems keen to take on Foveon technology and develop it. Maybe that's a shame but there must be good reasons and we seem to get by pretty well with CMOS and CCD alternatives.
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At least both Canon & Sony have patents for multi-layer "Foveon-like" sensors, wouldn't be surprised if Fuji do too.
 
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