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One of my pet hates and even induces as ST4 type rant:

Anybody caught texting whilst driving should get a £1000 fine and a mandatory 6 points on license, if they cause an accident whilst doing so, they should serve a custodial sentence and get 6 points minimum starting from when they get out of prison.To me, texting whilst driving is as bad, if not worse, than drink driving.

Farking halfwits.
 
fracster said:
One of my pet hates and even induces as ST4 type rant:

Anybody caught texting whilst driving should get a £1000 fine and a mandatory 6 points on license, if they cause an accident whilst doing so, they should serve a custodial sentence and get 6 points minimum starting from when they get out of prison.To me, texting whilst driving is as bad, if not worse, than drink driving.

Farking halfwits.
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Pah, amateur! You didn't even mention shooting anyone in the face! :rolleyes:
 
The bit that really amazed me was after impact, he was (Appeared to be) looking for his phone :rolleyes:
 
I saw someone with his iphone playing a video whilst propped up against the instrument binacle this evening....he was driving in stop/start traffic on Park Lane. I was in a cab...
 
fabs said:
Pah, amateur! You didn't even mention shooting anyone in the face! :rolleyes:
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First offence should see the phone nailed to a baseball bat before the bat is slammed into the offender's face.
 
Yep 1st time 6 points and £1000
2nd Instant 12 month ban, £5000,crush car and test retake.
 
Psh, amateur, hong kong cabbies know how to do it properly.

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fracster said:
One of my pet hates and even induces as ST4 type rant:

Anybody caught texting whilst driving should get a £1000 fine and a mandatory 6 points on license, if they cause an accident whilst doing so, they should serve a custodial sentence and get 6 points minimum starting from when they get out of prison.To me, texting whilst driving is as bad, if not worse, than drink driving.

Farking halfwits.
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4yr ban, retest, confiscate car and auction it off and £1000 fine, proceeds from the fine and car to go into a fund for victims hurt in crashes caused by people texting or talking on phone whilst driving.
 
donetello said:
Yep 1st time 6 points and £1000
2nd Instant 12 month ban, £5000,crush car and test retake.
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Same should apply to those faffing with sat navs mid journey.
 
Bernie174 said:
Absolutly, along with the same sentence for anyone who has the bloody thing stuck on their windscreen!

Buy a map, look at it before you set off. It works just fine.
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I wouldn't go that far.
Having a third party satnav isn't a tragic thing...so long as it's left alone. If just glancing at the screen is offensive, then it must be for built-ins.

And no...I don't own any kind of satnav :-)
 
Beardy said:
I saw someone with his iphone playing a video whilst propped up against the instrument binacle this evening....he was driving in stop/start traffic on Park Lane. I was in a cab...
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remember that absolute prat last year caught playing a driving game on his ipad , whilst driving :bang:
 
I travelled for an hour as a passenger today mainly at motorway speeds (on motorways, for clarity).

I counted 9 people meddling with devices while doing 60+. Got to be able to spot them before the overtake... car in the inside lane going a certain speed... not a consistent speed and drifting a bit in the lane. Go past, and the driver is mostly eyes down and left with the left hand off the wheel. Easy spot, texting or similar.

That said I had to tell the driver in my car to keep his mitts off the sat nav and let me change the CD's over too.
 
I wouldn't go that far.
Having a third party satnav isn't a tragic thing...so long as it's left alone. If just glancing at the screen is offensive, then it must be for built-ins.
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It's not possession of one I have an issue with (although it does show an inability to read a map!), its the ones that are suckered onto the windscreen, blocking view. In the daytime, thats bad enough, but at night it makes being able to see out much more difficult. Having something that bright within view is distracting and reduces night vision.
 
Bernie174 said:
Buy a map, look at it before you set off. It works just fine.
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Okay, I'll just remember every turning I'm supposed to make on a 3 hours journey.

Also sat navs adjust for road closures or to detour around heavy traffic - things a map can't help you with. Maybe a traffic announcement on the radio would tell me, but then I'd need to stop, look at my map, and memorise a whole new set of instructions.


Bernie174 said:
Absolutly, along with the same sentence for anyone who has the bloody thing stuck on their windscreen!
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Or maybe I should have the map open on the passenger seat, or even better on my lap/over the steering wheel like I've seen some people try and do.

Having it on the windscreen (but noway near the middle) means it can be looked at with a quick glance - akin to looking down at your speedo or mirrors.


Bernie174 said:
but at night it makes being able to see out much more difficult. Having something that bright within view is distracting and reduces night vision.
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Most sat navs have a night mode though which is much less bright - changes to a black & green colour scheme rather than pale grey and bright blue.


viv1969 said:
Same should apply to those faffing with sat navs mid journey.
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This I can agree on - once it is set it should stay set. If it needs adjusting let a passenger do it, or pull over
 
Okay, I'll just remember every turning I'm supposed to make on a 3 hours journey.
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Its a very strange thing, we all managed perfectly well doing just that! I don't have or need t*** nav in spite of the fact I travel around 28,000 miles a year, go looking for airfields that are usually very remote and well hidden. I don't get lost, and I can listen to the radio and work my way round traffic problems.

Or maybe I should have the map open on the passenger seat, or even better on my lap/over the steering wheel like I've seen some people try and do.
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No, again, you don't need to do any such thing. if you can't remember the route, plan a stop. It's oh so simple!

Having it on the windscreen (but noway near the middle) means it can be looked at with a quick glance - akin to looking down at your speedo or mirrors.
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Anything on your windscreen reduces your visibility. If you must use them, the dammed things talk, you don't need them in view. Besides I am talking about the numbskulls who have them slap bang in front of them, something I keep seeing.

Most sat navs have a night mode though which is much less bright - changes to a black & green colour scheme rather than pale grey and bright blue.
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Its a shame too many people don't use it then!

I'm sorry, but t*** nav whether its people messing with it when they shouldn't be, or having it reduce visibility is a dangerous thing. Yes, used properly it's OK, ish. But like mobiles, people suddenly can't live without seeing it, or messing around with it. It's become a self licking lollipop which people fall over themselves to justify the use of when they should be concentrating on driving.
 
Bernie174 said:
It's not possession of one I have an issue with (although it does show an inability to read a map!), its the ones that are suckered onto the windscreen, blocking view. In the daytime, thats bad enough, but at night it makes being able to see out much more difficult. Having something that bright within view is distracting and reduces night vision.
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It doesn't show an inability to read a map. That's like saying having a mobile phone shows an inability to use a payphone. It's shows an unwillingness to use a map, which is not the same thing at all.
And a satnav in a windscreen affixed holder when placed correctly doesn't obsure vision.
 
Where ever it is Viv is cuts out part of the view. Obviously.
They shouldn't be there.
I can guarantee that if I gave most owners a map and told them to get me from a to b they'd fail. I've tried it with a couple of people (although I already knew where I was going anyway), results were amusing.
 
Cobra said:
Bloody hell! talk about multi tasking :D
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It's not an unusual occurence, although I'd say the average is more like 5 phones. They are all linked to difference dispatchers or taxi apps etc. Fortunately traffic rarely travels above walking pace so accidents are rare :)
 
My satnav takes up about the same space as my tax disc holder and is located in the opposite corner. was an early adopter and it had no voice and a tiny screen but paid for itself in increased productiviy in it first 5 weeks
 
ChasG said:
My satnav takes up about the same space as my tax disc holder and is located in the opposite corner. was an early adopter and it had no voice and a tiny screen but paid for itself in increased productiviy in it first 5 weeks
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Yep :thumbs:
and besides most sat-navs are placed within the bonnet line,
and only block a minute portion of the bonnet not the road or impede sideways vision.
 
fracster said:
One of my pet hates and even induces as ST4 type rant:

Anybody caught texting whilst driving should get a £1000 fine and a mandatory 6 points on license, if they cause an accident whilst doing so, they should serve a custodial sentence and get 6 points minimum starting from when they get out of prison.To me, texting whilst driving is as bad, if not worse, than drink driving.

Farking halfwits.
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Why fine them. Whats wrong with a 6 month ban for such helmetry as texting while driving.

I wouldn't jail someone for an unintetional outcome of sloppy driving, but disqual seems fair irrespective of outcome as its so wantonly careless.
 
Nod said:
First offence should see the phone nailed to a baseball bat before the bat is slammed into the offender's face.
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Should we punish Robbers, rapists, theifs, rowdy drunks and illegal immigrants in this way too - or just motorists. I have to ask. I am for that level of punishment if its applied to all crimes, but not just for motorists.
 
ST4 said:
Should we punish Robbers, rapists, theifs, rowdy drunks and illegal immigrants in this way too - or just motorists. I have to ask. I am for that level of punishment if its applied to all crimes, but not just for motorists.
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Motorists (Per se) are the scum of the earth Steve, you should have got that by now
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Bernie174 said:
Absolutly, along with the same sentence for anyone who has the bloody thing stuck on their windscreen!
Buy a map, look at it before you set off. It works just fine.
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Only if it's detailed enough for what you need. I'm grateful for satnavs. Means I don't have to buy loads of maps that I might use only once in a lifetime. Clearly you've forgotten people who rest their maps on the steering wheel and look at it whilst driving. I used to write out a list of exits/routes for a journey and stick it to the dashboard for reference whilst driving. Satnav just makes this easier.

RichardtheSane said:
I counted 9 people meddling with devices while doing 60+.
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This is the problem. I see it regularly. I see people talking on phones with the handset to their ear. It is frikking scary.

Bernie174 said:
its the ones that are suckered onto the windscreen, blocking view. In the daytime, thats bad enough, but at night it makes being able to see out much more difficult. Having something that bright within view is distracting and reduces night vision.
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As others have pointed out, it depends on where it is. Some drivers put it slap bang in the middle of the windscreen. I used to put my TomTom in the bottom right corner of the windscreen as it was least obstructive in that position. Also, it's very easy to switch to "night mode" to protect your night vision.


Bernie174 said:
No, again, you don't need to do any such thing. if you can't remember the route, plan a stop. It's oh so simple!

Anything on your windscreen reduces your visibility.
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That tax disc must have caused you major problems. There have been thousands of accidents because of those pesky tax discs. Thank the Govt for getting rid of them.

Bernie174 said:
I can guarantee that if I gave most owners a map and told them to get me from a to b they'd fail.
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Map reading is a skill. You either develop, learn and maintain it, or lose it. I started learning from the age of 7 because my mother was always rubbish at maps. I can still look at a map and use it if absolutely necessary. But I don't need to. Just like I don't need to hand start an engine, write using a stylus, or do a zillion other things because of modern technology.

FWIW my own satnav is now "built in" and I can use the same head unit to change radio stations or change tracks as easily and without taking my eyes off the road.
 
That tax disc must have caused you major problems. There have been thousands of accidents because of those pesky tax discs. Thank the Govt for getting rid of them.
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I've yet to see a t*** nav in the bottom of the nearside windscreen on a right hand drive car.
I've also yet to see those tax discs with 4 feet of trailing wire. Or glowing like lighthouse.

Reg 30 con & use regs is very clear, you cannot have anything obstructing the view of the driver through the windscreen, t*** nav suckered on is obstructing your view, almost wherever you shove it. It is marginally OK in place of the tax disc, so long as its not giving off the same light as a small nuclear device. It's also an MOT fail item.

If people must use them, then they talk, you don't need to see it, listen to it. The feeble excuses I've heard about overhead view of roads, and maps on laps are just that, feeble. Yes, a map on your lap is equally stupid, and I've yet to find a route anywhere that it's impossible to stop on, or just off of.
 
My rear view mirror is larger than my satnav and positioned in the centre of the screen by the manufacturer
 
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