Tesla Roadster

I thought that due to the traction of the tyres or something, a car could not accelerate quicker than something like 2.5 secs
 
cambsno said:
I thought that due to the traction of the tyres or something, a car could not accelerate quicker than something like 2.5 secs
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The Porsche 918 can do a standing 0-60 in approx 2.2 seconds.

I suspect that better tyre technology, the right surface underneath and AWD helps
 
Very impressive figures....
 
At last Musk has come up with a design that actually looks good. I have not been a fan of any of his previous designs. All he needs to do now is sort out his production woes and Tesla may start to make a profit.
 
10 years time and these cars will be everywhere.
electric mini coming soon
 
bass_junkie83 said:
Unlikely to make much odds. The UK has always held a higher standard than required by the EU in the automotive industry. Particularly around safety issues.
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You would think a fisheye lens and a couple of monitors where the mirrors would be (for muscle memory of looking in that spot to see behind) would be much safer as there would be less blind spots, also, efficiency would improve (admittedly very slightly) without the wing mirrors sticking out from the side of the car, all cars should remove them, nothing to smash off when the Asda van comes screaming down your street then
 
I've been in a current tesla, with ludicrous mode, and that's just amazing acceleration. This must be mind blowing.
To be honest, driving a fast car, you never use it, just smile knowingly as lesser vehicles try hard and you let them go. Then just occasionally... ok rarely use it.

The bike I was always a hooligan
 
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Byker28i said:
P.s. How's the duster? Live up to the hype?
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I'm impressed with it, £8k for a 4x4 that's less than 3 years old, can't complain. No probs so far and we've done about 2.5k in the last 6 weeks. So far so good.
 
Nice, it's on my list to look at as a second cheap car in the future.
I looked a tesla for my daily commute, just could quite afford the £55k for a second hand one, or justify it. It didn't make financial sense just yet.
The model 3 could be interesting when it comes...
 
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Byker28i said:
Nice, it's on my list to look at as a second cheap car in the future.
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You should take one for a test drive, I really like mine, but be prepared, even though I have the Laureate, which was the top spec model, its still pretty basic.
 
Byker28i said:
Nice, it's on my list to look at as a second cheap car in the future.
I looked a tesla for my daily commute, just could quite afford the £55k for a second hand one, or justify it. It didn't make financial sense just yet.
The model 3 could be interesting when it comes...
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Bloke at work has a 3. I just don't get the design of the front end. Obviously it doesn't need a front grill but the front is just left blank. I'm sure they could have done something to make it look more interesting.
I'm surprised they haven't made a cheaper more realistic car that would appeal and be more affordable to the masses.
 
Tesla 3? Personal import LHD one?
 
Nod said:
Tesla 3? Personal import LHD one?
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My mistake, he has an X.
It looks like it was designed to have a grill even shaped to have a grill and they just couldn't be bothered to fit one. Very odd.
 
nilagin said:
My mistake, he has an X.
It looks like it was designed to have a grill even shaped to have a grill and they just couldn't be bothered to fit one. Very odd.
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I think it looks really nice, what would you do with that's space? At least tesla made electric cars look normal, not like the Mitsubishi attempt, or that ugly Peugeot ion or even the leaf, the new leaf looks nice though, the Renault ze range is half and half for me
 
jonoooo125 said:
I think it looks really nice, what would you do with that's space? At least tesla made electric cars look normal, not like the Mitsubishi attempt, or that ugly Peugeot ion or even the leaf, the new leaf looks nice though, the Renault ze range is half and half for me
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It's just the fact that the X has a styling line under the head lamps that would normally be the outline of a grill. It looks odd. I agree the new Leaf is a huge improvement over it's predecessor.
 
jonoooo125 said:
I think it looks really nice, what would you do with that's space? At least tesla made electric cars look normal, not like the Mitsubishi attempt, or that ugly Peugeot ion or even the leaf, the new leaf looks nice though, the Renault ze range is half and half for me
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I looked at a leaf. All of the secondhand ones have battery rental which, with the monthly mile mileage charge is the same as the petrol costs as the mx-5. I rented one for a week to see if it was possible and commuting in the dark, sometimes wet, motorway, I was getting a realistic comfort range of about 65 miles, not the 120 (i.e. when it drops below 1/4 full). I commute 25 miles each way so it's doable but didn't leave much spare for accidents or delays. Battery range is nearer the 100 miles at the weekend on local roads. It's probably a great car but didn't work for a commute because of the low mileage range.

I looked at a Tesla model s, didn't mind the looks, shades of a maseratti, they start around £40k second hand, but just couldn't again make the figures work. It was fun but would have meant selling the TVR and using it as the daily. If I had lots of money then yes I'd have one

Ford etc are supposed to be heavily investing in this market, be interesting to see their models, especially as Tesla has shown the way.
 
@Byker28i

The leaf 30 is much better. Few are battery rental and the battery rental can be bought out and dealers usually do that. NEDC range is a crock and should be ignored. THe US EPA range is more accurate.

The Kia Soul EV is still available to lease for about £200 a month which is a bargain. It’s well equipped and would do the commute with plenty of miles to spare all year round. EPA on that is over 100 miles. Best part of having one is the climate timer so if you plug it on you can set it to defrost the car before you head to work. No scraping and messing about :)
 
My eldest son has a Tesla (or maybe had might be more accurate)
A lorry swerved into him on the M11, the car checked all of its cameras, sensors etc, steered away and braked hard, all in an instant.
The car suffered badly but there were no injuries.
An eyewitness, travelling behind, complimented my son on his incredible reaction speed - he didn't bother to mention that the car had made and carried out all the decisons way ahead of him.

This, IMO, is the real benefit of new technology, not speed or acceleration:)
 
Garry Edwards said:
This, IMO, is the real benefit of new technology, not speed or acceleration:)
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This is the same technology that steered into a lorry in the US because the lorry was white/blue and the car didn't realise it wasn't sky. I can't remember the details and also in teslas defence, he shouldn't have taken his hands off the wheel as he wasn't in the correct mode.

I found this about the accident: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/elec...tal-tesla-accident-autopilot-nhtsa-probe/amp/

Byker28i said:
Ford etc are supposed to be heavily investing in this market, be interesting to see their models, especially as Tesla has shown the way.
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Electric Ford Mustang soon? Haha, also, have you looked at the Renault twizy, if it's just for commuting I think I'd go with that
 
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Electric bikes look good but still way to pricey as well.
still surprised not many electric scoots out there on roads, seen a few in Greece.
 
jonoooo125 said:
This is the same technology that steered into a lorry in the US because the lorry was white/blue and the car didn't realise it wasn't sky. I can't remember the details and also in teslas defence, he shouldn't have taken his hands off the wheel as he wasn't in the correct mode.

I found this about the accident: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/elec...tal-tesla-accident-autopilot-nhtsa-probe/amp/
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It didn't steer into the lorry, it just didn't detect it to avoid the colision. But nor did the driver / the driver wasn't paying attention.

However the driver had previously made statements about the car having helped him avoid accidents he would never have avoided by himself and he spoke about needing to keep paying attention despite how good the software was as it wasn't flawless.

At the time this was the first fatality in a Tesal in over 130million miles. The average worldwide is 1 fatality every 60million, and in the US something like 1 every 90million. So statistically it is already better than an unassisted human, and it will only get better with more data/input to improve the model.
 
jonoooo125 said:
Electric Ford Mustang soon? Haha, also, have you looked at the Renault twizy, if it's just for commuting I think I'd go with that
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You know they've announced this for 2020? They're ramping up in Flat Rock Mitchigan
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...lectrified-f-150-mustang-transit-by-2020.html

A hybrid version of the iconic Mustang that will deliver V8 power and even more low-end torque. The Mustang Hybrid, built at the Flat Rock Plant, debuts in 2020 and will be available in the North America to start
 
Byker28i said:
You know they've announced this for 2020? They're ramping up in Flat Rock Mitchigan
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...lectrified-f-150-mustang-transit-by-2020.html

A hybrid version of the iconic Mustang that will deliver V8 power and even more low-end torque. The Mustang Hybrid, built at the Flat Rock Plant, debuts in 2020 and will be available in the North America to start
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Right direction but it's still a hybrid so unless it's really good, I can't see me wanting it personally. A full electric one charged by my tesla roof tile would be worth it in a few years

where are all the hydrogen fuel cell cars??
 
jonoooo125 said:
Right direction but it's still a hybrid so unless it's really good, I can't see me wanting it personally. A full electric one charged by my tesla roof tile would be worth it in a few years

where are all the hydrogen fuel cell cars??
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I think battery technology is moving on. The new tesla batteries are lighter, less fire risk. Incidentally Ikea now do solar panels and battery storage.
 
battery technology will surge ahead in the next ten years.
for tech companies that is going to be a goldmine for whoever cracks it.
 
jonoooo125 said:
Right direction but it's still a hybrid so unless it's really good, I can't see me wanting it personally. A full electric one charged by my tesla roof tile would be worth it in a few years

where are all the hydrogen fuel cell cars??
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I think it will be much better and certainly more versatile to have a hybrid where the engine isn't connected to the drivetrain but just acts as a generator to recharge the battery.
 
Mr Bump said:
Electric bikes look good but still way to pricey as well.
still surprised not many electric scoots out there on roads, seen a few in Greece.
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Way too expensive and silly short range (nearly as bad as the Triumph Bobber...) currently available for "proper" bikes. Could be tempted by an electric commuter if they were cheaper and more easily available.
 
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