Tax on Sugar

[cambsno]

Now, I am one if Jamies fans - got his restaurants, buy his books and mags, even his sauces and pans... but in this case I wish he would f**k off!!!!

All this stuff about taxing sugary drinks is crazy - What is this, the nanny state!!! There is nothing wrong with the odd drink - like most things everything in moderation is fine.

This wil do nothing at a aside from making some do-gooders fee better about themselves. For one thing if they are serious then the tax should be higher, like £2 a can... that way you will stop. For most the 10p or whatever tax is just a tax we will all pay. only a fool would drink endless amounts, and its actually the hidden sugar in food that needs looking at if anything does!

 

[SarahLee]

I knew this was coming.
Made my feelings known weeks ago here

 

[AJQS]

I regularly see school kids loading up on 35p energy drinks at work, no parents involved, their own money and they want to spend it on crap, so yeh I'm with Jamie on this one.

 

[cambsno]

I regularly see school kids loading up on 35p energy drinks at work, no parents involved, their own money and they want to spend it on crap, so yeh I'm with Jamie on this one.

So a 10p tax will stop them, really????

 

[AJQS]

It'll certainly help. Put it this way they don't buy the 80p drink, or the £1.19 Red bull. Nor do they buy Caburys chocolate etc, they go straight for the 15p pure sugar and chems crap because they're colourful but mostly CHEAP. If the cheap stuff isn't in stock, they go home empty handed.

 

[rjbell]

Its just another bloody tax though isn't it going to the treasurer I prefer the idea of taxing all food with low nutritional value but only for the means of subsidising the healthy foods. Not sure how the y implement it. Perhaps through the vat system. We can't have it where the public are worse off.

 

[neil_g]

only a fool would drink endless amounts,

Or kids that don't know any better or don't care about sugar consumption. Who I think this is aimed at.

Personally I'm for a broader fat tax. Make unhealthier food more expensive.

 

[Nod]

The problem with Neil's suggestion is that at one time or another, so many foods have been thought to be unhealthy. Hell, too much water will kill you (and I don't mean by drowning!)

 

[srichards]

I'd just make the high calorie food aisles narrow so the fatties can't get in them. Meanwhile those that have basic levels of common sense are free to eat what is in there. I don't see why I should more for my cheese, chocolate etc because a bunch of lard arses can't control themselves.

 

[Mr Bump]

I'd just make the high calorie food aisles narrow so the fatties can't get in them. Meanwhile those that have basic levels of common sense are free to eat what is in there. I don't see why I should more for my cheese, chocolate etc because a bunch of lard arses can't control themselves.

hahah narrow isles I like it

 

[neil_g]

The problem with Neil's suggestion is that at one time or another, so many foods have been thought to be unhealthy. Hell, too much water will kill you (and I don't mean by drowning!)

I'm talking about how salad costs more than a big bag of crisps etc.

 

[viv1969]

I'd just make the high calorie food aisles narrow so the fatties can't get in them. Meanwhile those that have basic levels of common sense are free to eat what is in there. I don't see why I should more for my cheese, chocolate etc because a bunch of lard arses can't control themselves.

I'd suggest the next time you go shopping, you purchase more wisely.....seems you're all stocked up on clichés and pig ignorance.

 

[jonbeeza]

Silly really, surely the best way would be to reduce the Sugar content even more! I certainly don't eat as much sweets and chocolate as I used too, I find them far too sickly sweet, just like fizzy drinks etc. I mean last time I ate a chocolate bar, it made my throat roar as it was so sickly sweet, absolutely no need for so much sugar!

 

[Llamaman]

I mean last time I ate a chocolate bar, it made my throat roar

Was it a Lion Bar?

 

[jonbeeza]

Was it a Lion Bar?

No it was a .............Nearly got me lol

 

[big soft moose]

Not really any different to tax on alcohol , cigarettes etc ... only a fool would drink 2 bottles of scotch in a day or chain smoke 3 packets of cigarettes ... but people do

 

[Mr Bump]

Not really any different to tax on alcohol , cigarettes etc ... only a fool would drink 2 bottles of scotch in a day or chain smoke 3 packets of cigarettes ... but people do

or eat 20 bags of crisps or 20 cans of full fat coke.....but they dooo

 

[big soft moose]

exactly - but we tax the other two, so why not tax sugar or crappy fatty fast food etc...

 

[Demonid3e]

The problem with this taxes is that you seems to be just taxed with no real benefit to anyone. As @neil_g said the fruits and salads cost more than any trash food you can buy. I think if they would tax salt and sugar drinks they must make healthy food cheaper.

 

[jonbeeza]

Watching it on TV now, too much sugar in food and drink fed up of it all now. Before it was Salt, then it was Fat and so on

 

[big soft moose]

The problem with this taxes is that you seems to be just taxed with no real benefit to anyone. As @neil_g said the fruits and salads cost more than any trash food you can buy. I think if they would tax salt and sugar drinks they must make healthy food cheaper.

Fruit and salad only cost more if you buy them in prepared form , - if you actually cook with basic ingredients you can eat healthily for a damn site less than the cost of fast food or prepared meals.

 

[Cobra]

Before it was Salt, then it was Fat and so on

Exactly give it a year and sugar will the best thing since other so called inappropriate food stuffs,
that are now deemed to be good for you.
Its all about moderation.

FFS! when will people start taking responsibility for their own actions without the nanny state telling us what we can and can't drink / eat / do ?

 

[Nikon_Nick]

I'd just make the high calorie food aisles narrow so the fatties can't get in them.

Couldnt be as narrow as your mind though eh?

 

[jonbeeza]

Exactly give it a year and sugar will the best thing since other so called inappropriate food stuffs,
that are now deemed to be good for you.
Its all about moderation.

FFS! when will people start taking responsibility for their own actions without the nanny state telling us what we can and can't drink / eat / do ?

In moderation, good thinking. I will have one Mcdonalds a week, one Indian a week one oily Italian a week ( my favourite ) and a fry up at the week end Did you know a lot of fruit is not good for you? Too much natural Sugars. That leaves vegetables, Potatoes are not good for you either!

Sod it, I will keep eating like a pig and keep up with my three walks a day with the dog. I should be a right fat git, if it was not for my walk around the park

 

[big soft moose]

Silly really, surely the best way would be to reduce the Sugar content even more! I certainly don't eat as much sweets and chocolate as I used too, I find them far too sickly sweet, just like fizzy drinks etc. I mean last time I ate a chocolate bar, it made my throat roar as it was so sickly sweet, absolutely no need for so much sugar!

The issue there is cadburys being taken over by kraft or hershey or whoever it was - what passes for chocolate stateside is way more sugar and fat and less cocoa solids than 'proper' chocolate - which is why its cheaper to make hence the move away from the cadburys recipe on 'dairy milk' 'creme eggs' etc - if you get proper high cocoa solid chocolate its a completely different thing, and in moderation not even that fattening.

 

[Cobra]

In moderation, good thinking. I will have one Mcdonalds a week, one Indian a week one oily Italian a week ( my favourite ) and a fry up at the week end

Well it works for me ( Sans the Iti though)

Did you know a lot of fruit is not good for you? Too much natural Sugars.

Yep

Potatoes are not good for you either!

They were, then they weren't then they were TBH I'm lost now, as to whether they are or not,
one simple solution, cut them into chips, then you dont eat so many

Sod it, I will keep eating like a pig and keep up with my three walks a day with the dog

And of course a hell of a lot of people don't take any form of exercise, and therein lay's the problem

 

[jonbeeza]

They were, then they weren't then they were TBH I'm lost now, as to whether they are or not,
one simple solution, cut them into chips, then you dont eat so many

Although it does mean frying them in oil, even oven chips are fried first so not as healthy as they are made out

 

[Deleted member 49549]

Although it does mean frying them in oil, even oven chips are fried first so not as healthy as they are made out

You can make your own potato wedges, toss them in salt pepper and rapeseed oil, and pop those in a hot oven. Delicious and not unhealthy.

 

[jonbeeza]

The issue there is cadburys being taken over by kraft or hershey or whoever it was - what passes for chocolate stateside is way more sugar and fat and less cocoa solids than 'proper' chocolate - which is why its cheaper to make hence the move away from the cadburys recipe on 'dairy milk' 'creme eggs' etc - if you get proper high cocoa solid chocolate its a completely different thing, and in moderation not even that fattening.

I made my own Chocolate the other day I used un-Sugared Cocoa powder and skimmed milk, I thickened it with Cornflour and let it cool a little. It was lovely and silky smooth, nothing like the harsh sweet chocolate you get from the shops. Just thinking how to get it into bite sized bars, before I go on Dragons Den

 

[jonbeeza]

You can make your own potato wedges, toss them in salt pepper and rapeseed oil, and pop those in a hot oven. Delicious and not unhealthy.

Love Potato wedges, cheers gives me an idea for tea tonight. But in reality, it will be beans on toast

 

[Mr Bump]

I don't think it is the nanny state wanting to control lives. Its a bit like saying why do front seat passengers have to wear seatbelts?

I would let front seat passengers have the choice as if they don't wear it and have an accident they just go though the windscreen, simples

 

[viv1969]

I would let front seat passengers have the choice as if they don't wear it and have an accident they just go though the windscreen, simples

They already have the choice.
If over the age of 16 it's up to them.
If stopped for not wearing the seatbelt, the fine is theirs, not yours.

 

[Mr Bump]

They already have the choice.
If over the age of 16 it's up to them.
If stopped for not wearing the seatbelt, the fine is theirs, not yours.

Ah yeah but I would like it to be legal not a fine, you could choose to not wear a seatbelt, imagine that.

 

[cowboy]

He must have a book to sell or a series to promote.

 

[viv1969]

Ah yeah but I would like it to be legal not a fine, you could choose to not wear a seatbelt, imagine that.

If it weren't ILlegal, where's the choice?

 

[ZoneV]

Anyone remember Jamie Oliver's part in Ricky Gervais' comic relief sketch from a few years back?

It's all very funny but jump to 4:44 if you're not a Gervais/Merchant fan.

"Turkey Twizzler?"

NSFW - mild swearing.

 

[nilagin]

There is nothing wrong with the odd drink - like most things everything in moderation is fine.

You do realise the amount of sugar in one canned drink is beyond moderation.

 

[Demonid3e]

I don't think it is the nanny state wanting to control lives. Its a bit like saying why do front seat passengers have to wear seatbelts?

I would let front seat passengers have the choice as if they don't wear it and have an accident they just go though the windscreen, simples

You would be paying their hospital fees trought your tax...

 

[Mr Bump]

You would be paying their hospital fees trought your tax...

but were doing the same now for obesity

 

[Cobra]

Although it does mean frying them in oil, even oven chips are fried first so not as healthy as they are made out

Yeah but its only small portions of potato, so everything in moderation
( I was being ironic btw )