Talking about getting rid of copper coins again

[dejongj]

UK is behind?
Which nations are currently cash free?

Behind in adopting cashless payment methods. I'm not aware of any that are fully there but the transition is happening rapidly. Bank note printing and coin circulation is going down and has been for a long time. There comes a point where the balance tips and cash becomes too expensive.

 

[Cobra]

but hey they coped with much more complicated changes.

I'm not so sure TBH, I think the last one was the switch from LSD when we went decimal.

It is, but those funny Londoners do that several times a day with the Oyster card.

Exactly

Heck I pay for coffee by boinking my watch

I have no wish to "boink" my watch, even if I wore one,

 

[nilagin]

Somehow paying for something for as little as > £1 with a card seems kinda crazy to most of us.

It is, but those funny Londoners do that several times a day with the Oyster card.

No they don't, minimum fare is £2.30

 

[dejongj]

No they don't, minimum fare is £2.30

Not picking. My coffee at Starbucks is £1 it was just one of many examples.

 

[nilagin]

I wouldn't have a problem with spending a £1 or less with my debit card, but I can't remember the last time I spent so little, certainly not in this century.

 

[Gremlin]

If that is the case he would need the means to keep downloading fresh software onto his diagnostic equipment, it's called a computer.

oh well you obviously know who l am talking about so know what is in the garage, never seen any computer stuff, must keep it well hidden. l was
looking after the office earlier this week while he was out, wow a cordless phone and pen and paper
people need to accept that not everyone relies in the internet etc, some mange to live their lives without it

 

[nilagin]

people need to accept that not everyone relies in the internet etc, some mange to live their lives without it

You stated that he is authorised to service many modern models, that's more likely to be a few modern models, he is seriously limited without proper diagnostic equipment, what happens if something needs repairing during the service, as you said he has just a simple code reader, sometimes they will give a clue what a problem is or where to look, sometimes they can be wrong.

 

[dejongj]

I wouldn't have a problem with spending a £1 or less with my debit card, but I can't remember the last time I spent so little, certainly not in this century.

I agree and if it wasn't for contact less payment I'd be using cash. Which is indeed my point. If cash wasnt about, contact less payment was more common outside London, then none of this would be strange.

As I said, it is strange for the younger generation already. And they are the future

 

[ecoleman]

and what would you suggest children get for pocket money in future seeing as they cant get a debt card until age 16?

My sons 14 and has a debit card. He's had it since he was 12.
His pocket money is paid into his account every week and encourages him to saved or something worthwhile instead of the cash burning a hole in his pocket.

 

[kennethwfd]

my mother is in her late 80's and has adapted to doing everything on line - there will be a few luddites who will have no option but adapt - and then wonder why they did not embrace the digital age earlier!

that's assuming these Luddites can get a reliable internet/mobile signal in the first place. I cannot even get 3G where I live as for 4g....forget it!
as mentioned already, all stores will be forced to accept card payments of any amount - many (such as the local petrol station) charge for card transactions of £6 or less
And even longer waiting while the customer in frount fiddles with (usually her) card and trying to remember the pin no

Anticipating the obvious replies - the petrol station is a convenience store as well. So I just want a 45p carton of milk. this incurs a 60p charge to pay by card. The banks, surely, will be willing to waive this

back in the 60's everyone seemed convinced that the car would herald a new era in transportation - buses and trains were dinosaurs soon to be confined to museums. cashless society likeewise

 

[dejongj]

that's assuming these Luddites can get a reliable internet/mobile signal in the first place. I cannot even get 3G where I live as for 4g....forget it!
as mentioned already, all stores will be forced to accept card payments of any amount - many (such as the local petrol station) charge for card transactions of £6 or less
And even longer waiting while the customer in frount fiddles with (usually her) card and trying to remember the pin no

Anticipating the obvious replies - the petrol station is a convenience store as well. So I just want a 45p carton of milk. this incurs a 60p charge to pay by card. The banks, surely, will be willing to waive this

back in the 60's everyone seemed convinced that the car would herald a new era in transportation - buses and trains were dinosaurs soon to be confined to museums. cashless society likeewise

Contact less payment will stop the messing about Although there will always people who are funny like that. Same today with their purses in which I could store a laptop computer whilst searching for that one coin.

The decision to charge is one made by the retailer not the bank. If their deal isn't good enough they should shop around or why not setup a coop and do their own.

I think it doesn't make sense to have car ownership. Especially not how many roads have too many cars for the households with no parking. Whilst I'm the first to admit I love my cars, logically with an ever increasing population it doesn't make sense.

 

[jonbeeza]

The thread seems to have evolved a bit, as we are now concentrating on getting rid of cash ( more about thread evolving here https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/straying-off-topic-or-thread-simply-evolving.592789/ )

Getting rid of cash wont be in the interest for some dodgy people at the top. Business people, Politicians, other people in power and have the right of a yes or no decision. Whatever you want to call it, a bribe a bung, a donation etc. We will know who has had a back hander, as there will be an electronic trail. So I am sure, some in power will be against a cash less society.

 

[nilagin]

I think it doesn't make sense to have car ownership.

Not owning a car would seriously restrict movement or add unnecessary cost. I need a car to get to work. Public transport just doesn't cut it, nothing runs close to work and cabs would be too expensive. Plus the detour to the gym before or after work only makes owning my own car more worthwhile. Then there is going out at weekends, I'm off to Wembley Stadium in a few weeks for a concert, I've done that once by train, never again. Much easier and cheaper using my own car. Goodwood soon too. Not even entertaining doing that by public transport or cab neither.

 

[dejongj]

Not owning a car would seriously restrict movement or add unnecessary cost. I need a car to get to work. Public transport just doesn't cut it, nothing runs close to work and cabs would be too expensive. Plus the detour to the gym before or after work only makes owning my own car more worthwhile. Then there is going out at weekends, I'm off to Wembley Stadium in a few weeks for a concert, I've done that once by train, never again. Much easier and cheaper using my own car. Goodwood soon too. Not even entertaining doing that by public transport or cab neither.

Same here. At work they did a check to relocate and the impact on commuting. For me it would take an overnight stay to get to work on time.

However I still stand by my suggestion. The constraints in the current options should not limit us thinking ahead and improving the situation.