Talk Photography election poll.

[Raptor Mike]

I disagree here.
If I have taken note of candidates, parties, manifesto promises and rhetoric, and still find that there is no one I can trust even a little bit to deliver. ..who should I vote for?

In my opinion, the biggest fools are those who stick their 'x' In any old box just so they can then pontificate about how they voted, so their Opinion matters more than that of someone who chose not to abandon their own principles.

I agree with Tom. There should be an official opportunity on ballot papers for people to express their dissatisfaction with all candidates.

Another agreement here, for the same reasons,
I've been saying for years, there should be a none of the above option.
Brewsters Millions" anyone?

The party I'm voting for doesn't stand for EVERYTHING I believe in and I expect that is the same for most of the population of the country. It's a case of either voting for a party that stands for something you strongly feel about eg NHS, benefits, immigration, EU, mansion tax, fracking etc or/and voting for what you believe are the lesser of the evils. You can't moan about the state of the country if you don't do what you can to sort it out. (well you can but you won't have a leg to stand on )

Or as someone posted in the meme thread recently, vote for Kermit as sure as hell,
we will end up with some Muppet or other, ( May as well go for the green one, unless of course Miss piggy runs too, and the we have a pink option )

VOTE BACON!!!... nom nom

 

[POAH]

Except it is meant to be private, a private ballot is the only way to ensure fairness and reduce the risk of gerrymandering, coercion and fraud

The ballot not the same as telling someone who you voted for.

 

[Cobra]

The party I'm voting for doesn't stand for EVERYTHING I believe in and I expect that is the same for most of the population of the country

None of the party's come close to everything I would like to see either, however as sure as eggs is eggs, it will be a coalition,
and they will spend half the time arguing about who said what and we will / won't do that as we don't agree with the proposal on the table.

The only winners after the poll closes will be the MP's on some ridiculous salary, more holidays than teachers and an expense account half the size of the national debt.

Who said that I'm cynical?

Edit, and the way it stands at the moment, that coalition would be interesting

 

[viv1969]

The ballot not the same as telling someone who you voted for.

Plus, the ballot's not secret.
What do you think the the numbers on the register and ballot papers are for?

 

[Raptor Mike]

Plus, the ballot's not secret.
What do you think the the numbers on the register and ballot papers are for?

I've often thought that. Although I don't envy the poor b****r that has to match them all up lol

 

[CaveDweller]

Vote muppet We're going to get one anyway.

 

[Dave *]

its not like people are asking to see your willy is it

I'm not sure how to explain it, but that could be difficult for some contributors here and almost half of the population of the country .

 

[dinners]

Plus, the ballot's not secret.
What do you think the the numbers on the register and ballot papers are for?

You only have to look at the political junk mail that comes through the door after you vote for somebody.

 

[dinners]

Who I want to vote for, and who I will vote for are two different things. Tactical voting for me this year.

This is how I feel.

It's a toss up between voting for who I want to vote for or voting for one of the only two parties which can win our constituency.

 

[viv1969]

I've often thought that. Although I don't envy the poor b****r that has to match them all up lol

I envy their salary though

 

[arclight]

seriously, there is no one party that fits my ideals... I lean towards the right, but to be honest, all the "leaders" are a bunch of a*ses. (IMO)

Local candidate is a god-botherer, so doesn't get my vote. Every party seems to have its good and bad points.

I agree with that except that the "bunch of a*ses (a term that does not begin to describe all their various faults)" extends well below the party leaders and also deeply infects the unelected realms of government who seem to prefer that little fundamental change will ever take place.

Add to that a voting system that cannot fairly cope with there being more than two parties. We'll again see a result where parties who have secured almost 20% of the votes will only have a tiny number of seats whilst a party that gets not much more than 33% of the vote will have hundreds of seats and form the government. The only two parties who will have the power to drive through a change in the voting system will not do so because they will be the biggest losers.

 

[Cobra]

. The only two parties who will have the power to drive through a change in the voting system will not do so because they will be the biggest losers.

And to my mind that's the biggest single "thing" that convinces me that politics and politicians are corrupt
A load of self serving bass tars

 

[POAH]

I'm not sure how to explain it, but that could be difficult for some contributors here and almost half of the population of the country .

or banjingo

 

[POAH]

This is how I feel.

It's a toss up between voting for who I want to vote for or voting for one of the only two parties which can win our constituency.

if you believe the polls, there is only going to be one party in scotland lol

 

[jakeblu]

Plus, the ballot's not secret.
What do you think the the numbers on the register and ballot papers are for?

I've often thought that. Although I don't envy the poor b****r that has to match them all up lol

Technically yes, you could match all the ballot papers with the electoral roll, but both are sealed and can only be opened by a court order usually when investigating electoral fraud.

 

[viv1969]

Technically yes, you could match all the ballot papers with the electoral roll, but both are sealed and can only be opened by a court order usually when investigating electoral fraud.

Prior to counting and the results announcement, yes.

 

[LongLensPhotography]

I would clearly like to vote for myself but sadly that option is missing.

 

[cambsno]

I agree with Tom. There should be an official opportunity on ballot papers for people to express their dissatisfaction with all candidates.

Which will achieve what exactly... Even if 40% spoilt, nothing happens.

 

[viv1969]

Which will achieve what exactly... Even if 40% spoilt, nothing happens.

But you can say similar about tactical voting.

I've heard a great many people say that as a leader they like Nick Clegg, and they like the Lib Dem policies; but they immediately say oh they've got no chance, so they'll vote one way or another to prevent the guy they don't like from winning. That achieves nothing.

It'll happen again on Thursday.
It's another coalition for sure, and nobody will be satisfied. Sod all achieved.

I maintain that there should be an official way for people to express their lack of faith and dissatisfaction with the system without being called stupid, ignorant, or a pleb.

 

[King of Groove]

Where's the option for the Monster Raving Loony Party?!

 

[shreds]

without being called stupid, ignorant, or a pleb.

So what have the Police got to do with it?

 

[Steep]

And to my mind that's the biggest single "thing" that convinces me that politics and politicians are corrupt
A load of self serving bass tars

George Carlin on Politicians DEFINITELY NSFW !!!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07w9K2XR3f0#t=166

 

[Cobra]

George Carlin on Politicians DEFINITELY NSFW !!!

 

[Cobra]

Where's the option for the Monster Raving Loony Party?!

It was never the same since Screaming Lord such passed away.
However they are still campaigning
http://www.omrlp.com

The Loony Party declare they are ready and willing to form a CoALEition with any other party
especially the Scottish Nationalist Party as we share the same party colours, yellow and black.

Which is obviously as important if not more so than a lot of the other ideals of coalition

 

[LongLensPhotography]

You also forgot FUKP. Great party

 

[Daryl]

Bring back National Rail ways and Utility companies......
Build up our conventional armed forces
Sort out and spend on NHS.
Control immigration not stop it

And on a serious note.............
Stop pie and doughnut vouchers for Benefit families that keep having offspring to claim more.

Allow kids to clean chimneys from 12 years old.
Free cigars to under 8.s
Tighter adoption laws on people wanting Hamsters, Squirrels and Beavers.
A public ban on people boring us to death with card tricks in the street.
Buskers must wear Prada.
Greater selection of Continental cheeses in schools at lunchtime....

Make Wire Fox Terriers the dog of choice.

and much much more I have ne thought of yet........

 

[Steve Smith]

It's a toss up between voting for who I want to vote for or voting for one of the only two parties which can win our constituency.

It's also sometimes a toss up between voting for the party you want to see in government and voting for the person you would like to be your local M.P. The two might not be the same party.

Probably going to spoil the paper for the following reasons.

What's the point in putting any effort into doing that? The outcome is exactly the same as not voting at all.

I've been saying for years, there should be a none of the above option.

I do see some merit in having a 'none of the above' option if a party has to get a majority of the votes including these in order to form a government.


Steve.

 

[boyfalldown]

What's the point in putting any effort into doing that? The outcome is exactly the same as not voting at all.






Steve.

Because this way I get counted as part of the turnout, rather then one of the CBAs.

I'd dearly love a none of the above box, but I don't have one and this is the only way to express that opinion

 

[viv1969]

What's the point in putting any effort into doing that? The outcome is exactly the same as not voting at all.

Steve.

I disagree.
Every paper spoiled is counted.
If everyone wrote on the paper the reason for spoiling, maybe someone with half a brain might spot a pattern.

 

[Steve Smith]

Every paper spoiled is counted.
If everyone wrote on the paper the reason for spoiling, maybe someone with half a brain might spot a pattern.

But they're not are they?

They are just counted and ignored. It might make the turnout figures look better but that's just an artificial boost as it makes no difference to the actual voting.

Still, if it makes people feel better, why not?!


Steve.

 

[viv1969]

Still, if it makes people feel better, why not?!


Steve.

Yep. And every bit as valid as slapping a paw print in a random box just to be able to say smugly "I voted".

 

[Blank_Canvas]

Yep. And every bit as valid as slapping a paw print in a random box just to be able to say smugly "I voted".

Exactly this, overheating two 18 year olds in the pub last night saying it's the first time they are going to vote, their strategy was just to close their eyes and wherever their finger landed it would get a 'tick' - the other teenager pointed out that an 'X' was required. Lord help us all !

 

[Al1944]

I disagree.
Every paper spoiled is counted.
If everyone wrote on the paper the reason for spoiling, maybe someone with half a brain might spot a pattern.

And then what?

 

[viv1969]

And then what?

And then perhaps giving voters a box to check to legitimately express themselves and be heard, and have the number of those who chose that option officially announced with the rest of the results.

 

[Al1944]

Cloud cuckoo land I'm afraid. No offence meant BTW

 

[viv1969]

Cloud cuckoo land I'm afraid. No offence meant BTW

If that had any relevence to the election process though, the choice of parties to elect would be 2, because that's also where the rest of them live in terms of having a chance to ever form their own government!

 

[cambsno]

It was never the same since Screaming Lord such passed away.
However they are still campaigning
http://www.omrlp.com

The Loony Party declare they are ready and willing to form a CoALEition with any other party
especially the Scottish Nationalist Party as we share the same party colours, yellow and black.

Which is obviously as important if not more so than a lot of the other ideals of coalition

Saw the great man at a gig in godmanchester I'm 1992 (majors old constituency) - much missed.

 

[akr]

I like and dislike bits from most of the parties, so in some ways a coalition could work well for me...or they could adopt all the policies I don't like and reject all the ones I do!

It's an interesting election with the SNP, UKIP and possibly Green vote having so much more of an affect - nervous times for the Lib Dems but I wonder if the will pull it back at the end in view of the opposition.

I think some of the attacks on Milliband are way below the belt but labour, or the unions, defeated themselves when he was voted in - he is no leader and no match for Cameron. You can talk about policies all day long but I think if the leader of the party is not viewed positively it's hard to get the message across. I don't think he is helping himself with his 'I won't form a coalition', and whoever coached him for his question time appearance should be fired 'let me address that directly, what is your name, great question'..anyway.

I think the Tory vote will pretty much hold, but I guess the UKIP threat is there. Still if you voted Tory last time, I expect most people still would. Lib dem vote in serious danger though perhaps their tactic of if you don't vote for us think who you might let in will wok last minute, SNP up, Green who knows, UKIP who knows.

It's strange, whilst none of the parties particularly inspire me, I think it will be the most interesting election for a long time.

For those of you not interested in voting, there's no better time to start your own party!

 

[Blank_Canvas]

I like and dislike bits from most of the parties, so in some ways a coalition could work well for me...or they could adopt all the policies I don't like and reject all the ones I do! :confused

The problem is the coalition hadn't worked this time around. A hung parliament is not a good thing in an election. Looking at the polls so far there won't be an alternative this time around. None of the party leaders are either inspiring or dynamic. This needs to be addressed in double quick time before the next General Election in another 5 years if there is going to be a return to the single party victory. Easier said then done of course when you look at some of the potential candidates waiting in the wings.

 

[cambsno]

The problem is the coalition hadn't worked this time around. A hung parliament is not a good thing in an election. Looking at the polls so far there won't be an alternative this time around. None of the party leaders are either inspiring or dynamic. This needs to be addressed in double quick time before the next General Election in another 5 years if there is going to be a return to the single party victory. Easier said then done of course when you look at some of the potential candidates waiting in the wings.

Disagree, think that it's worked well, giving a nice balance, although I must be one of the few to think the lib dems and clegg have done very well. Although normally right wing, I would much rather see it continue than a Tory majority!