Stupidity and people stealing my photos

Phil V said:
Not these?
I'm sure that if they never checked with you at any point during the submission process it was an error.
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Nope, definitely did not get anything at all. So put it down as an error.
 
Anyway ITV will at least be able to tell you who nicked the picture in the first place. If he's stolen one...
 
While all this arguing is good and well, it seems to have drowned the topic at hand somewhat. The OP is clearly on course to sorting this out.

Keep us posted with how you get on and what ITV have to say. I suspect they'll (fairly easily) shift accountability, but would be interested to see how they do it.
 
Circuit Hero said:
While all this arguing is good and well, it seems to have drowned the topic at hand somewhat. The OP is clearly on course to sorting this out.

Keep us posted with how you get on and what ITV have to say. I suspect they'll (fairly easily) shift accountability, but would be interested to see how they do it.
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Thats what I'm also expecting, but I'll let you know how it goes anyway :)
 
Phil V said:
They'd probably argue that you agreed as their T&Cs are readily available.
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They may well do, I am not arguing with them though and just used it as an example where they didn't exactly make it clear as they didn't ever mention anything along those lines.
 
Circuit Hero said:
While all this arguing is good and well, it seems to have drowned the topic at hand somewhat. The OP is clearly on course to sorting this out.

Keep us posted with how you get on and what ITV have to say. I suspect they'll (fairly easily) shift accountability, but would be interested to see how they do it.
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I second this would be great if the op can keep us up to date on what happens we hear alot about this sort of stuff happening but not much on the outcome.
 
ernesto said:
They may well do, I am not arguing with them though and just used it as an example where they didn't exactly make it clear as they didn't ever mention anything along those lines.
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It's an interesting point though. With so many programs asking you to 'email us a photo to.....' they're storing up problems by ignoring what can go wrong.

Particularly in light of the telephone quiz scams that now mean every time they invite you to phone them they have to go through a 100 word speach.

Phoning them can mean you lose out on a 75p call, letting them sell on a photo you've sent them could cost you much more:gag:
 
Important update!

Had an email from ITV today confirming that it WASN'T used. They've proved it by providing me a high res screen grab from the only time that "steve worrell" has submitted a photo and it wasn't my shot used. They also went on to say that its probably been photoshopped to include my image into it as theres a blue line missing at the top of the image that they include on all weather broadcasts.

The photo steve sent in wasn't anything like mine either with no similar angle, similar fungus or even similar colours! Its good to know that my copyright hasn't been breached and the evidence they have sent me is pretty damn conclusive so I won't be taking it further.
 
So, the question remains, how did you end up with the screen shot with your image showing?
 
I would try to trace it and the perpetuator. He/she could have landed you in court for libel should the Steve W you (as it turns out) falsely accused have seen this thread and taken exception!
 
wippers said:
So why would anyone photoshop your image to make it look like it was used on TV? :thinking:
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Agree, this is all very odd.
 
Sounds like your friend was involved in the prank somehow....
 
srichards said:
Sounds like your friend was involved in the prank somehow....
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Doubt it as they have nothing to do with image manipulation, photography or any creativity lol. They only recognised the image because he helped me find out what the fungus actually was.

This doesn't need to be turned into a witch hunt by any means and theres no conspiracy, so don't go looking for one.
 
graphilly said:
Lots of shroomery going on here, you've been had.
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Having just read all this thread awaiting the outcome.. I feel I have been had as well :( I will never get them 5 minutes back..
 
Are you sure they're Liberty Cap? they seem to lack the 'nipple', not that I'd know :gag:
 
James J said:
theres no conspiracy, so don't go looking for one.
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Well, clearly there is something odd going on. A 'friend' notices a mocked picture (who and why would anyone go that trouble) on an unnamed website (what a coincidence) and recognises it as yours (remarkable powers of observation).

It all seems a bit coincidental, and your lack of providing a clear explanation leaves me thinking something is being with-held.
 
Phil V said:
Food has ben taken off the table because the image ITV used was available for them to buy - but they used it without paying.
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if they really wanted an image of that particular mushroom they might have paid for it, or they probably more likely would have just found one for free from somewhere else- why should they pick yours, it's not a rare mushroom, what extra value does it have over a free image, it's just something to fill a background and maybe make someone say 'that's nice' while they sip tea, it is a nice image no doubt but do you think anyone who saw it would google search you? If you do get published just enjoy the ego boost, don't expect to make bank or you'll find yourself alone and clinging to your morals while everyone else rakes in the tearsheets. The days of professional exclusivity are over, just like jobs for typists and tv repair men
 
mrjames said:
if they really wanted an image of that particular mushroom they might have paid for it, or they probably more likely would have just found one for free from somewhere else- why should they pick yours, it's not a rare mushroom, what extra value does it have over a free image, it's just something to fill a background and maybe make someone say 'that's nice' while they sip tea, it is a nice image no doubt but do you think anyone who saw it would google search you? If you do get published just enjoy the ego boost, don't expect to make bank or you'll find yourself alone and clinging to your morals while everyone else rakes in the tearsheets. The days of professional exclusivity are over, just like jobs for typists and tv repair men
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That's a very generalised statement against a very specific circumstance (again).

It's irrelevant anyway as it never happened. But for clarity, the fact that a similar image is available elsewhere for free doesn't justify image theft. That's just stupid.
If my neighbour puts a bag of daffodil bulbs out for free and I adertise some unusual ones for sale. You can't just steal mine and justify it by saying that's the 'going rate' and I should 'get used to it'.

If you don't want to buy mine, then don't. Take the free ones. I may never sell any, but that doesn't mean I should feel obliged to give them away or that anyone should feel they can steal them.
I'm not blind to the state of the industry, butit doesn't justify image theft.

Simple fact, if an image is adertised for sale and someone uses it without paying, that's breach of copyright. it can't be justified by saying 'they could hae gort something similar for free'. They could have used a free one - no problem. But the law is still firmly with the wronged photographer, even if you beliee that to be archaic.


Although, I'm thinking of doing more arty studio stuff and I clicked on your link and can see some interesting photo's I could use to adertise my services, for free obviously:thumbs::thumbs:
You might have a point, why do it legally when it's so much easier to just take what you want.
 
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