Street Photography Series Explores the Urge to Take Photos of Strangers

Oh good - more stuff in the "watch later" queue. Seriously, thank you. I reckon that I catch up over the course of a week.
 
Good stuff I’ll be watching all of them, the photographers interviewed also have produced really good work
 
G.K.Jnr. said:
Just seen this posting Daniel, thanks for the heads up.
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There are some good interviews on there, and that Trevor Wisecup is an entertaining character.

Likewise, I am on the second episode of the series the OP posted of 'Jill Freedman', and she is also a heck of a character.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
The thing about photographing random strangers is that they may not appreciate your attentions...
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Street Photographer Beaten Bloody for Taking Photo of a Couple Hugging

Photographer Math Roberts experienced every street photographer's worst nightmare during the Notting Hill Carnival. As first reported by The
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This one might be of more interest to you, he shoot's in Large format, and asks for permission to take peoples portrait, but I guess he doesn't have much choice.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDIlNMEs-Tk
 
garryknight said:
My Watch Later list now has 187 vídeos in it, totalling several days viewing. Mind you, that's more than just photography videos.
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Oh I'll give way on bragging rights :p

I'd come back to add that, being a typical reserved Brit of such age as to have grey hair (okay so I'm 70 next weekend) I'm more likely to snap street scene candids without people realising or with them maybe thinking "stupid tourist with a camera" and I'm not at all likely to get in someone's face.
I'm also mindful that among the current generation of toddler and small child mummies the thinking seems to be that "photographing my child without my explicit consent WHICH I WILL NOT GIVE is going to steal their soul". I think this is one of those temporary Brit phenomena.
 
tikkathreebarrel said:
I'm more likely to snap street scene candids without people realising or with them maybe thinking "stupid tourist with a camera" and I'm not at all likely to get in someone's face.
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I think that's called "good manners" and shows an admirable sense of social restraint. It's just a pity that there are those who don't display it and give others a bad name. :(
 
garryknight said:
Petapixel's article on this new video series is here:

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Street Photography Series Explores the Urge to Take Photos of Strangers

Street photography can be controversial.
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And the YouTube video channel is here:

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I've watched the Jill Freedman and Matt Weber Videos, both great.. let's be honest, there can never be enough videos featuring Jill Freedman

dan00001 said:
Thank you, have started watching now.

I came across a good YouTube channel recently, 'Paulie B'. He interviews street photographers.

This is one of my favourites, so far..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjuP527Xt2Q
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In General, I have big issues with Street Photography on YouTube - the quality of the photography and the advice given, and don't get me started on Videos that feature other (not so good) YouTube street photographers ;) Paulie B breaks the mould, he features some really great photographers who have something interesting to say - I urge you seek out the videos he's done with Reuben Radding. He's probably cornered the market in Street Photography YouTube channels worth watching at the moment.. which leaves me more time to watch videos on how to bake a sourdough loaf haha

The Pauilie B video with Trevor Wisecup shared above leaves me conflicted - he seems a genuine nice guy but probably the sort that will ruin street photography for the rest of us
 
benc98 said:
I've watched the Jill Freedman and Matt Weber Videos, both great.. let's be honest, there can never be enough videos featuring Jill Freedman



In General, I have big issues with Street Photography on YouTube - the quality of the photography and the advice given, and don't get me started on Videos that feature other (not so good) YouTube street photographers ;) Paulie B breaks the mould, he features some really great photographers who have something interesting to say - I urge you seek out the videos he's done with Reuben Radding. He's probably cornered the market in Street Photography YouTube channels worth watching at the moment.. which leaves me more time to watch videos on how to bake a sourdough loaf haha

The Pauilie B video with Trevor Wisecup shared above leaves me conflicted - he seems a genuine nice guy but probably the sort that will ruin street photography for the rest of us
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Reuben Radding was actually next on my watch list.

I quite enjoyed Naeem Douglas, too..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je-6eACZoZk&t=618s


As far as Trevor, I can fully comprehend the views that some people have about not asking permission to take somebodies photo, but at the same time, there are some photos that you simply couldn't capture by asking permission first. I'm not saying that they are necessarily better, just that they are relevant, in my opinion.
 
dan00001 said:
As far as Trevor, I can fully comprehend the views that some people have about not asking permission to take somebodies photo, but at the same time, there are some photos that you simply couldn't capture by asking permission first.
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As I see it, what's wrong with all these "street photographers" is that they push their way into other peoples' personal space.

That's why, I suspect, there will eventually be a demand to control what many people think is a form of assault. If the reports I've read are accurate Spain, Switzerland and Brazil, among others, already require consent to be given by all the subjects before you may take a picture of them.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
As I see it, what's wrong with all these "street photographers" is that they push their way into other peoples' personal space.

That's why, I suspect, there will eventually be a demand to control what many people think is a form of assault. If the reports I've read are accurate Spain, Switzerland and Brazil, among others, already require consent to be given by all the subjects before you may take a picture of them.
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Are there instances where I would say the photographer is in the wrong, or that certain photographers are too invasive? Yes of course, there are always exceptions, but for the most part I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

The world is becoming a little ridiculous.
 
I have seen comments of yours in other threads, you clearly feel strongly about it, but I do not subscribe to the same opinion, and do not wish to get into a discussion of photography etiquette.
 
A long lens somewhat sneakily from a distance can also seem like an assault.
 
Pound Coin said:
A long lens somewhat sneakily from a distance can also seem like an assault.
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I would feel more at ease with somebody taking a photo of me from a few feet away than somebody with a telephoto pointed at me from across the street.

But of course, every situation is going to be different and would be assessed accordingly. The mannerisms and appearance of the photographer is going to greatly affect how s/he is perceived, whether up close or from across the street.
 
Pound Coin said:
A long lens somewhat sneakily from a distance can also seem like an assault.
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We already know that we disagree on this. It seems pointless rehashing our differences.
 
dan00001 said:
I would feel more at ease with somebody taking a photo of me from a few feet away than somebody with a telephoto pointed at me from across the street.
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That's you. How do you know what your victim will feel?

I try to behave like a wildlife photographer and for the same reason a wildlife photographer behaves that way: to record how the subject behaves without the photographer's interference.
 
dan00001 said:
I have seen comments of yours in other threads, you clearly feel strongly about it, but I do not subscribe to the same opinion, and do not wish to get into a discussion of photography etiquette.
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In that case, perhaps you should not raise the question?
 
Pound Coin said:
A long lens somewhat sneakily from a distance can also seem like an assault.
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It’s definitely harder and more awkward to explain if you get approached by someone unhappy that you’ve taken their picture from across the street using long lens.
There is an honesty about using 35mm or so and also you hiding in plain sight
 
Well some “victims” smile at me after taking their picture, so not everyone thinks the same. I’ve also had people not even included in the frame telling me to duck off.

Anyway, watched a few episodes now, it’s interesting to see the interactions with people. But so far the work some produce is surreal.
 
benc98 said:
It’s definitely harder and more awkward to explain if you get approached by someone unhappy that you’ve taken their picture from across the street using long lens.
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If you get approached by the bear you're trying to photograph, that's more awkward as well.
Pound Coin said:
Not everyone sees subjects as victims.
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It's nothing to do with how the photographer sees someone. It's how the someone sees the photographer,
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
That's you. How do you know what your victim will feel?

I try to behave like a wildlife photographer and for the same reason a wildlife photographer behaves that way: to record how the subject behaves without the photographer's interference.
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Victim?

So we both take a photo of a person, I take a photo from 6 feet away, you take a photo from 60 feet away, mine is a victim and yours is not?

Can you not understand how utterly ridiculous this sounds?
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
If you get approached by the bear you're trying to photograph, that's more awkward as well.

It's nothing to do with how the photographer sees someone. It's how the someone sees the photographer,
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I'm sorry but you can't compare the nature of a bear to the nature of a human being. The bear is acting on natural instinct, it's either hungry or territorial. It has zero thought process on you taking a photo of it.

It's like asking somebody if they would approach a wild bear to ask for directions.

You are reaching, now.
 
dan00001 said:
Can you not understand how utterly ridiculous this sounds?
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The whole argument is ridiculous.

Our views are so divergent that we will find it impossible to reach agreement. I suggest that we accept that difference and move on to other things.
 
benc98 said:
I've watched the Jill Freedman and Matt Weber Videos, both great.. let's be honest, there can never be enough videos featuring Jill Freedman



In General, I have big issues with Street Photography on YouTube - the quality of the photography and the advice given, and don't get me started on Videos that feature other (not so good) YouTube street photographers ;) Paulie B breaks the mould, he features some really great photographers who have something interesting to say - I urge you seek out the videos he's done with Reuben Radding. He's probably cornered the market in Street Photography YouTube channels worth watching at the moment.. which leaves me more time to watch videos on how to bake a sourdough loaf haha

The Pauilie B video with Trevor Wisecup shared above leaves me conflicted - he seems a genuine nice guy but probably the sort that will ruin street photography for the rest of us
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I quite enjoyed Matt Webber

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgR_CfVin4
 
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