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On every roll, but not every frame, shot on a Canon EOS 5 I'm Finding a strange mark. It seems more noticeable toward the end of the roll.
I'm trying to trace where this is coming from and so far the only place I can think of is a little wheel that's on the inside of the door.

Has any experienced this before?

I've given the wheel a good clean in the hope this resolve the issue.IMG_20200301_195010_copy_768x1024.jpegIMG_20200301_194100_copy_768x1024.jpeg
 
I've got an EOS 5 and not seen that problem but it does look like it's in the same place as the gap in the wheel. It's strange that it's not on every frame though, and it's a bit odd that it looks like its in the gap and not where the wheel touches. I've got a film in my EOS 5 at the moment or I'd have a look
 
sirch said:
I've got an EOS 5 and not seen that problem but it does look like it's in the same place as the gap in the wheel. It's strange that it's not on every frame though, and it's a bit odd that it looks like its in the gap and not where the wheel touches. I've got a film in my EOS 5 at the moment or I'd have a look
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Having lined up the film and the roller it does appear to be where the gap is.

On a side note, I've only just put a battery in the back and found the date only goes to 2019, when you try 2020 it flips back to 1987
 
Can't say I noticed about the date but can't think when I last checked it.
 
MrDrizz said:
the date only goes to 2019, when you try 2020 it flips back to 1987
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That's pretty cool as 1987 was a better year anyway....I was 33 years younger!:LOL:

Actually, reading that back to myself dun 'alf make me feel old:confused:
 
Serves you right for being flashy with the 5QD :cool:
 
Give yourself a treat, unless it's of sentimental value, park the EOS 5 and look for an EOS 30 instead. An EOS 30 in 'very good' to 'mint-' condition can still be had for around £40 to £60 on eBay if you're patient and shop carefully.

For that you get one of the last great 35mm film SLRs, with eye controlled focus (look at one of the 7 focus points and, once you've calibrated it for your eye, that's the point it will focus on - just by looking at it! [why the heck don't they bring that technology back? It's so instant and bloody useful!], a 4 frames per second motor drive (if you ever need it), fast focus even in fairly low light (even by today's standards), a light-weight body and very quiet (for an auto-wind 35mm film SLR) shutter noise. All in all, the EOS 30 is a much better camera, so grab one before everyone realises and the price goes the way of the EOS-3! ;)
 
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Asha said:
OK, perhaps there was but……….see post #10 ;):LOL:
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I've never had a problem with any camera with that design of rear door roller, and I've got several of them. As for Nikons of that era... sticky-back plastic anyone? :facepalm: :eggface: :LOL:

Banter aside, that design of film door roller shouldn't cause any marks on the film whatsoever. To prove that, here's a shot I took on Kodak Ektachrome slide film using a Canon EOS 30v.

 
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I am wondering could it be the film spool of the AP tank I use?
Looking back at the rolls I shot with the Minolta some of those frame I'm sure have the same marking. I'll have to double check this.
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Just a guess..could it be the roller is not running free i.e. slightly jammed.
 
MrDrizz said:
I am wondering could it be the film spool of the AP tank I use?
Looking back at the rolls I shot with the Minolta some of those frame I'm sure have the same marking. I'll have to double check this.
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There are some marks/discolouration at the edge of the film by the sprocket holes, as well as the line along the centre of the film - could it be a light-leak? To see if this is the tank or the camera you could send your next film to a lab and see if the same issue occurs. Perhaps sending a second film off to make sure if the first film comes back OK?

You could always buy another tank and try that, but that may not help if it's some kind of operator error in the loading, so the lab option may be cheaper if you go for a develop only (no scan) service. If it's the camera, then do give my EOS 30 suggestion some thought. (y)
 
I'll have to do this, also I have a bid on a EOS 30, currently at £24.
Mr Badger said:
There are some marks/discolouration at the edge of the film by the sprocket holes, as well as the line along the centre of the film - could it be a light-leak? To see if this is the tank or the camera you could send your next film to a lab and see if the same issue occurs. Perhaps sending a second film off to make sure if the first film comes back OK?

You could always buy another tank and try that, but that may not help if it's some kind of operator error in the loading, so the lab option may be cheaper if you go for a develop only (no scan) service. If it's the camera, then do give my EOS 30 suggestion some thought. (y)
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UPDATE
As with most of these things it would to appear to be human error.

Processed another roll from another camera and got the same thing.

So when I thought about it more on every roll I've loaded at some point during the loading it feels like the film gets stuck, I have then applied more force. This has more loading easier again.

Could this be causing the marks on the film? Could the film be popping out the guides making it link and touch in part?
 
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Still getting the mark, I can only conclude that it's the take-up spool, maybe liquid is getting trapped between the film even though I do tap the tank.

It's baffling.Minolta Tes 3 with Vari ND00270 1.jpg
 
I thought this was going to be about something like...

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Is disappoint.
 
MrDrizz said:
Ohh yeah got one for 40 quid. Seems decent enough apart from the sticky grip.
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Glad you got one, take a bit of time to re-set then calibrate the eye controlled focus - don't take your eye off each focus point (even for a split second) when calibrating (which can take a bit of concentration) and it should reward you with hitting the target each time just by looking at each one of the 7 focus points! This feature still amazes me, I really wish Canon would bring this feature back as it's so damned useful if you can get it to work properly.

As for the grip, give it a wipe down with soap and water to get rid of any dirt or debris, then handle it for a short while afterwards until it feels less sticky, then leave the camera out in the open in a room to air dry for a couple of weeks (not where it will come into contact from direct sunlight, as you don't want to cook it!). Handle the grip from time to time, and I've found it should soon lose any tackiness it might have, had but still retain its matt type coating on the grip 'leatherette', which it won't do if you use cleaners or spirit, etc. on it. Hope this works for you as well as it's worked for my two 30s and my 30v.

Most of all, don't forget to post some photos from it once you've used it, as I think it's a cracking little camera. :)
 
Cheers but I have already found a solution for the grip. We use this very thin felt tape stuff on work and I've used that to cover the grip. Very easy to replace too should it get grubby

Others have suggested isopropyl alcohol.
Mr Badger said:
Glad you got one, take a bit of time to re-set then calibrate the eye controlled focus - don't take your eye off each focus point (even for a split second) when calibrating (which can take a bit of concentration) and it should reward you with hitting the target each time just by looking at each one of the 7 focus points! This feature still amazes me, I really wish Canon would bring this feature back as it's so damned useful if you can get it to work properly.

As for the grip, give it a wipe down with soap and water to get rid of any dirt or debris, then handle it for a short while afterwards until it feels less sticky, then leave the camera out in the open in a room to air dry for a couple of weeks (not where it will come into contact from direct sunlight, as you don't want to cook it!). Handle the grip from time to time, and I've found it should soon lose any tackiness it might have, had but still retain its matt type coating on the grip 'leatherette', which it won't do if you use cleaners or spirit, etc. on it. Hope this works for you as well as it's worked for my two 30s and my 30v.

Most of all, don't forget to post some photos from it once you've used it, as I think it's a cracking little camera. :)
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