SSD? So What's That Then?

Keith W said:
3 words that spring to mind.... Arse, ducks & tight :D
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With that budget, surely it would be better to check your temperatures with the standard cooler first.

If you are not overclocking, they will probably be fine.
 
Stands to reason a £50 cooler will be better built than a £15 one but I've not had any trouble with the arctic cooler.
 
Well that's all the bits ordered, it should be with me tomorrow :D
 
RobertP said:
I have this one in my PC and also used it for a recent i7 build.
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I have one of those too in my server. It isn't as good as the other coolers I have - a Scythe Ninja 3 on the overclocked i7 and a Scythe Shuriken Rev.B for my more powerful HTPC (actually an E8400).

To be honest, the only reason to move to a better after market cooler is if you want to push the chip as far and as fast as it will go as it will remove more heat than the OEM one. The second (and primary one for me) is to reduce noise. I used to have a Scythe Ninja on the E8400 and as that chip only has a TDP of 65W, I could run it entirely passively. The replacement Shuriken has a fan, but it is very quiet (and controlled by the BIOS to rotate slowly until the chip gets to 55 deg C.

BTW, you have to learn to pronounce esoteric names if you want to get into after-market cooling....
 
neil_g said:
the akasa venom gets a good writeup, it is HUGE though. wouldnt fit in my case lol
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Was it only the height that was the problem with the Venom or did it not clear the first RAM slot too?
I have a P8P67 Pro mobo and 4 off G-Skills RAM and going through my usual routine of sourcing a cooler. As frustrating as ever :bang:
 
Almost_Invisible said:
Was it only the height that was the problem with the Venom or did it not clear the first RAM slot too?
I have a P8P67 Pro mobo and 4 off G-Skills RAM and going through my usual routine of sourcing a cooler. As frustrating as ever :bang:
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Didn't try it on the p8p67-m, still had the rubbish gigabyte at that point but shouldn't be much different...


Dry fit 2 by neilgates, on Flickr
 
Yikes - is a monster!
Not sure which way I will mount it as CPU is positioned near the rear exhaust fan but the case also has a top exhaust fan.
Ordered one anyway :thumbs:
There is so much room inside the case I am sure it will matter little which way the fan is facing and it looks like I could just have the fan pulling rather than pushing if RAM is too close/tall.

Cheers
 
All my bits arrived this morning, will be putting it all together tomorrow.

I note the cooler already has a thermal pad applied, do I need add anything else or is it good to go?
 
Keith W said:
All my bits arrived this morning, will be putting it all together tomorrow.

I note the cooler already has a thermal pad applied, do I need add anything else or is it good to go?
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Probably good to go. You don't want to add too much.
 
Cheers guy's

So how does one re-format an SSD? The same way as a normal HDD?
 
Well that was a right mare to set up.

Installing mobo and cooler was OK but trying to get the OS onto the SSD was a real pain for some reason.

Also it could just be me but the SSD seems slower on this SATA3 6Gb's than in did on my cheapo mobo on a SATA2 3Gb's
 
Mmmm... strange.....

I had set the drive up for AHCI before I installed windows but it seem that between then and now it got turned back to IDE.

Have to a regedit and set it back to ACHI

Still doesn't seem any faster though, but maybe that is just me :shrug:
 
put it this way an SSD with 500Megabytes/s transfer is only just going to use more than a SATA2 connection at 3Gigabits/s as it converts to 4Gigabits, so putting that only a SATA3 connection youre only gaining 1Gigabit/s in speed.
 
neil_g said:
put it this way an SSD with 500Megabytes/s transfer is only just going to use more than a SATA2 connection at 3Gigabits/s as it converts to 4Gigabits, so putting that only a SATA3 connection youre only gaining 1Gigabit/s in speed.
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Or 25% speed increase... plus you have to remember any overhead...
 
Aye
 
OK next problem...

For some reason my built in card reader is no longer recognised, nothing I try seems to make a difference.

Any ideas?
 
Just tried an external card reader and drivers for it installed a OK and it read the SD card no problems.

Seems it is just a problem with my internal card reader
 
Anybody got any ideas on this card reader problem?

It is very strange as I have had this card reader working on two separate install of win 7 before.

I have tried googling but nothing useful comes up
 
Got a front panel USB socket or something you could test the board header with?

Assume you've double checked its on the right pins right header etc.
 
Hi Robert,

Yup checked all of that

The power indicator light s on, it also has a USB slot on the card reader that works OK.

It just seems the card reader part is knackered for some reason.

Google shows a lot of people with similar problems but no real solution.

Bit of a b****r that's for sure
 
On the plus side those built in readers are all pretty slow so now you can get yourself a nice fast Lexar UDMA usb3 reader..
 
I have kind of resigned myself to the fact that its borked and that I am going to have to get a new one
 
Just finishing off a PC build at the moment and I have a small question about my SSD, is it ok if I use this thread to ask something, Keith? It's such a small question that it doesn't deserve its on thread but I don't want to hijack this either. Thanks.
 
Thanks!

Everywhere I read says "Make sure your SSD is connected to the lowest SATA port (0 or 1)", but my SATA 3 connections are Ports 6 and 7 (SATA 2s are 1-5). My SSD is SATA 3, so I'd want to get the best out of it.

Is there a genuine reason for only using the lowest numbered ports? Or is it just for ease?
 
The reason is that the motherboard provides SATA through a variety of means. There is on the chipset chip, on the chipset chip via some bus adapters, an external controller off a PCI-e port or an external controller off a PCI bridge. They tend to be organised so the lower numbers of the SATA ports have less between the SATA port and the main memory so probably have better performance. It sounds your SATA3 ports are implemented via an external controller of some sort. You'd need to check with the board specs how it is implemented but it may be that using a low numbered SATA2 port will be quicker than your SATA3 port depending on how it is all hooked up. If you have the ability (i.e. you haven't already put the OS on it), it might be worth doing some benchmarking on the different ports to see what speed you get.

As an aside, I've just bought some PCI-e -> SATA Host Bus Adaptors precisely because my server has a weird multi-level bus architecture for it's sata ports so my RAID array is being run across a set of controllers that have slightly different performance.
 
Micehorns said:
Thanks!

Everywhere I read says "Make sure your SSD is connected to the lowest SATA port (0 or 1)", but my SATA 3 connections are Ports 6 and 7 (SATA 2s are 1-5). My SSD is SATA 3, so I'd want to get the best out of it.

Is there a genuine reason for only using the lowest numbered ports? Or is it just for ease?
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I had never heard of that advice before although, strangely enough, I always connected my OS HDD to No 1 SATA.

My latest SSD build, I just made sure I used one of the SATA 3 connections and that would certainly be my advice to you.
 
Well I have ordered a new internal card reader from Amazon.
 
Just a quick update to say the new card reader arrived today and is now installed, all is now working OK again.

Also just want to say many thanks to everyone who has offered there help, assistance and comments in this thread, it has been very much appreciated. :thumbs:

Take care,

Keith
 
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