Spend my big budget...

I only went to try one. I would be very wary of buying anything from Jacobs with their problems at present!
 
Will your warranty not still be covered by the manufacturer?
 
EMA747 said:
I only went to try one. I would be very wary of buying anything from Jacobs with their problems at present!
Click to expand...

Just thought I'd point it out in case you didn't know already and were thinking of buying one from there.

Shame they're in trouble.
 
Andy, the 5D3 is an immense camera when it comes to handling high ISO I have no issues with bumping up the ISO :thumbs: 12,000 is usable virtually SOOC and 25,000 with a little processing would still be of use :thumbs:
 
gman said:
Will your warranty not still be covered by the manufacturer?
Click to expand...

In practice yes (because they don't want the bad publicity) but your warranty is actually with the supplier.
 
Ploddles said:
In practice yes (because they don't want the bad publicity) but your warranty is actually with the supplier.
Click to expand...

Correct me if I'm wrong but the supplier is just the middle man. Some suppliers even suggest that you send your product directly to the manufacture yourself. They usually say "or we can send it in for you" as an after effect to appease you.
 
With any UK waranty your covered for 1 year with the manufacturer but usualy through your supplier, After that its the supplier you have a bone to pick with if your goods break down within 5 years which has not been through wear and tear or accidental damage. If it is an inherant fault with the item the supplier has to offer a repair or replacement but usualy supplier are stuborn and try to put the onus on you or prove it wasnt through wear and tear/accidental damage or even try to fob you off by saying your warranty has run out and your not covered. All this information is free from Goverment websites or citizens advice in the UK
 
I'm not sure what will happen with Jacobs, they aren't of the same size as Jessops so one of the big camera corporations may not help them out - although I'm quite sure Canon aren't doing it to help them but more to protect the debt due.
 
Hotshots said:
With any UK waranty your covered for 1 year with the manufacturer but usualy through your supplier
Click to expand...

This is what I was thinking otherwise why would it be called a 'manufacturers' warranty lol
 
If you have a problem with something you have bought your contract is with the supplier and this can be for up to six years. For the first six months, the supplier has to prove the item wasn't faulty when you bought it, after that the burden of proof switches to the consumer. If a minimum of £100 of the cost was put on a credit card the credit card company is equally liable with the supplier and the consumer can choose whether they want to claim against the supplier or the credit card company.

A manufacturer's warranty is in addition to your statutory rights and it cannot remove or replace them.
 
digital said:
If you have a problem with something you have bought your contract is with the supplier and this can be for up to six years. For the first six months, the supplier has to prove the item wasn't faulty when you bought it, after that the burden of proof switches to the consumer. If a minimum of £100 of the cost was put on a credit card the credit card company is equally liable with the supplier and the consumer can choose whether they want to claim against the supplier or the credit card company.

A manufacturer's warranty is in addition to your statutory rights and it cannot remove or replace them.
Click to expand...

Spot on info there. :thumbs:
 
digital said:
If you have a problem with something you have bought your contract is with the supplier and this can be for up to six years. For the first six months, the supplier has to prove the item wasn't faulty when you bought it, after that the burden of proof switches to the consumer. If a minimum of £100 of the cost was put on a credit card the credit card company is equally liable with the supplier and the consumer can choose whether they want to claim against the supplier or the credit card company.

A manufacturer's warranty is in addition to your statutory rights and it cannot remove or replace them.
Click to expand...

Ozei said:
Spot on info there. :thumbs:
Click to expand...

Actually not quite spot on the value of the purchase must be over £100 pounds however only some of that has to have been spend on the credit card :thumbs: e.g. Item cost £1,000 and you put £5 on the credit card then that is then covered, but also remember as much as the media would like to think Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act is not a catch all wonder safety need that some would have you believe :thumbs:

Matt
 
MWHCVT said:
Actually not quite spot on the value of the purchase must be over £100 pounds however only some of that has to have been spend on the credit card :thumbs: e.g. Item cost £1,000 and you put £5 on the credit card then that is then covered
Click to expand...

You're correct: my poor wording!
 
So the upshot is that if I bought a camera from DigitalRev and something went wrong I could make a claim on their 1 year warranty or I could use the credit card company if I needed to?
Or does the Consumer Credit Act not apply if the item wasn't purchased in the UK?

DigitalRev seems to get pretty good reviews but I am thinking of spending nearly £5K so for the sake of an extra £500 would buying from the UK be wiser or money wasted?
 
EMA747 said:
So the upshot is that if I bought a camera from DigitalRev and something went wrong I could make a claim on their 1 year warranty or I could use the credit card company if I needed to?
Or does the Consumer Credit Act not apply if the item wasn't purchased in the UK?

DigitalRev seems to get pretty good reviews but I am thinking of spending nearly £5K so for the sake of an extra £500 would buying from the UK be wiser or money wasted?
Click to expand...

I would buy local.

The chances of anything actually going wrong may be small, but if it does you have a physical shop you can get to and who will likely be bending over backwards to keep you happy as a customer who has spent that kind of money. I would guess any problems are likely to be sorted out far quicker too.

Any problems from Digital Rev will involve postage of very expensive equipment insured etc, before you will get any customer service.
Also unlikely, but if Digital Rev go out of business I think you're stuck:eek:
 
Sorry for bringing this thread up again but I thought it might be better than starting a new one saying similar things. ;)


Again I apologise if this post gets a bit long.....:D


So after posting before I have taken on board the advice kindly given out and have gone away and had a long hard think about what I want to do with my photography. I keep coming back to the conclusion that photography is something I am passionate about, passionate enough to hopefully give it a serious go in trying to make at least a partial career out of it. At the end of the day I think it would be foolish of me to say I WILL be able to make money off it because with things as they are now even for experienced pros I think it's a pretty unknown track to follow.
Without wanting to go too much into my life story I do have a kind of backup if the photography doesn't work after a few years in that I have a position left open for me to join the merchant navy (cargo ships not war ships :) ). This was something I applied to do was given an offer but then began to wonder if it's 100% what I want to do with my life. Had a chat with them and they said the position will be left open for a few years which was nice of them.


Now on to the meat of my post.....

After thinking long and hard about my photography I have come to the conclusion that it's sports and travel that are the areas I would love to focus on for various reasons. Sadly they are two very different areas so I think at least in terms of equipment I will have to focus on one for the time being and that would be sports.
So equipment choices will revolve around sports but I would like to be able to do some travel projects for my own enjoyment on the side and see where that takes me.

So again I ask - how best to spend my budget? Budget is around £7500 max as I want to leave some money as travel/accommodation funds to be able to go to some sporting events and also to set up a website. I have around £10000 but don't want to send more than the 7500 on equipment.

So what should I look at?

Nikon or Canon I'm not really fussed. I have owned high-end Canon gear before but I have tried some Nikon cameras and they seem equally as good.

PS - If you read this far, well done! :clap:
 
Hi.

IMO i would not do Photography as a full time deal because it is very competetive and hard to get paid jobs especially when you are starting out.

i would go and do something else full time BUT and i mean a BIG BUT, do photography as a "part time" job for now until you earn enough reputation, skills and "contacts" to full ditch your normal 9-5 job.

That is how i would go about things IMO. Dont put all your eggs in one basket as they say
 
jonneymendoza said:
Hi.

IMO i would not do Photography as a full time deal because it is very competetive and hard to get paid jobs especially when you are starting out.

i would go and do something else full time BUT and i mean a BIG BUT, do photography as a "part time" job for now until you earn enough reputation, skills and "contacts" to full ditch your normal 9-5 job.

That is how i would go about things IMO. Dont put all your eggs in one basket as they say
Click to expand...
I forgot to add that I have a part time job that just about covers me. It doesn't pay that well but if very flexible so can have time off pretty much whenever I want and for however long I want. :thumbs:
 
Hi, my name's Andy...take me to India.... separate rooms of course :D

Some sage advice there....me? I'd spend the lot on camera gear....

[but I'd probably regret it!]

Keep us updated :thumbs:

Cheers.
 
Well personally I'd go for a 7D with a Tokina 11-16 and a 70-300L and one other walk around lens for travelling. The walk around is always the hardest decision IMO, you could get a Canon 17-55 f/2.8 or perhaps a 24-70 (better build and weather sealed but heavier). Add on a simple 85mm f/1.8 if need be for portraits and you have a very heavy duty do it all, but importantly light(ish), travel kit. Then you could add on a 300 f/2.8 (used probably) for the aviation.

On the Nikon side I'd go with the D7000 (lightish, weather "proof" and a decent all round camera), Tokina 11-16, Nikon 17-55 and the long end is a bit more difficult unfortunately, maybe a 70-200 f/2.8 and 1.4 TC? Add on the 300 f/2.8 and you're there again.
 
I'll go for my advice for Nikon and I'm going to suggest buying second hand. This would cover you for travel (my ideal set-up 17-55, 80-200, 85, 50) and sports (D700, 70-200, 300, 1.4x, 2x) and leave you with a fair bit of spare cash.

D700 x 2 - £2400
17-35 f2.8 - £550
70-200 f2.8 £1000
50mm f1.4D £160
85mm f1.4D £600
300mm f2.8 £1800
1.4x TC £130
2x TC £140

Total = £6780
 
300-400mm f2.8 primes are of course very popular sports lenses but a question I have been pondering is why? I assume it's because of the constant f2.8 which must be handy in low light, ie football at night, indoor sports.

What sprang to mind was is a fast prime necessary given the excellent very high ISO performance of the 1Dx and D4? Using one of those bodies with a 70-200 f2.8 stacked with a converter would not give f2.8 but those bodies are capable of shooting at such high ISO that maybe it would work stacked, if you see what I mean?
A 400mm f2.8 prime is about the same price as a 1Dx or D4 body. A body plus a 70-200 and converter would be about £6500 so not a whole lot more than a prime on it's own. That would then take care of body, long lens, shorter lens (unstacked 70-200), would cover some travel/portrait use as well, all for only a little extra cash. I could then add a 24-70 and be sorted for the time being.
 
A 400/2.8 is a fairly specialist bit of kit. It's main advantage, apart from IQ, is the ability to focus rapidly due to the wide aperture followed by the ability to shoot wide open. AF speed is the key.
 
EMA747 said:
300-400mm f2.8 primes are of course very popular sports lenses but a question I have been pondering is why? I assume it's because of the constant f2.8 which must be handy in low light, ie football at night, indoor sports.

What sprang to mind was is a fast prime necessary given the excellent very high ISO performance of the 1Dx and D4? Using one of those bodies with a 70-200 f2.8 stacked with a converter would not give f2.8 but those bodies are capable of shooting at such high ISO that maybe it would work stacked, if you see what I mean?
A 400mm f2.8 prime is about the same price as a 1Dx or D4 body. A body plus a 70-200 and converter would be about £6500 so not a whole lot more than a prime on it's own. That would then take care of body, long lens, shorter lens (unstacked 70-200), would cover some travel/portrait use as well, all for only a little extra cash. I could then add a 24-70 and be sorted for the time being.
Click to expand...

You can get a used 300 f2.8 for less than £2k on ebay, its a lot less than the difference between a D700/D800 and a D4. I would be more inclined to spread the £6500 over a lot more than a Body, Lens and TC if you want to shoot travel and sports. The list I compiled above will give you coverage from 17mm f2.8 all the way to 600mm f5.6 for the same value literally covering you for virtually every eventuality :thumbs: If you went for a D800 you could use its 16mp crop mode to get up to 900mm :D

Also your TC + 70-200 + High iso is a huge compromise in image quality compared to a dedicated 400mm prime due to the TC image degradation and also more noise/high iso means lower resolution/DR
 
Last edited:
jacob12_1993 said:
You can get a used 300 f2.8 for less than £2k on ebay, its a lot less than the difference between a D700/D800 and a D4. I would be more inclined to spread the £6500 over a lot more than a Body, Lens and TC if you want to shoot travel and sports. The list I compiled above will give you coverage from 17mm f2.8 all the way to 600mm f5.6 for the same value literally covering you for virtually every eventuality :thumbs: If you went for a D800 you could use its 16mp crop mode to get up to 900mm :D

Also your TC + 70-200 + High iso is a huge compromise in image quality compared to a dedicated 400mm prime due to the TC image degradation and also more noise/high iso means lower resolution/DR
Click to expand...

What version of the 300 is that that you can get for sub two grand?

D7000+D800 combo would be nice but when I'm overseas I use a MacBook pro (core 2 duo version) to backup photos and some basic editing and I wonder if the large files off the D800 would just bring it to its knees!
 
i have read this thread and it is quite interesting but.... i don't think the OP will ever make his mind up. I understand... its a lot to spend. Took me ages to decide to get one new camera and lens let alone 7-8K's worth!!! what ever you decide good luck, maybe just go for it as you could spend weeks/months "thinking" what to get.. :)
 
downs523 said:
i have read this thread and it is quite interesting but.... i don't think the OP will ever make his mind up. I understand... its a lot to spend. Took me ages to decide to get one new camera and lens let alone 7-8K's worth!!! what ever you decide good luck, maybe just go for it as you could spend weeks/months "thinking" what to get.. :)
Click to expand...
That's about right Chris. I've gone for months thinking this is the camera for me, then wondering if another one is better etc etc.
I was set on buying a Nikon D4 (nearly ordered one at the Focus show) but have since heard the video mode is very soft so that threw all my plans. I had a play with a 1Dx when I was in Copenhagen and it felt just right/do everything but it is a big chunk of my budget.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top