Sony RX1RII announced

Rizvan said:
Sony just keep on releasing new camera's/bodies......
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Nothing new there then.

Basically on paper it looks like an a7rii with a fixed 35/2. Built in EVF is a nice addition.
 
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£2500..... That's some serious enthusiast compact.
 
I had the first RX1. Fantastic camera, amazing image quality, but let down by the clumsy external viewfinder and v e r y s l o w autofocus, and no top-plate shutter speed dial. I venture that the Leica Q is a more satisfying camera to use, the Fuji X100T a much more affordable crop sensor option, but it looks like they've sorted two of the main gripes with this update. Very interesting...
 
The wife neeeds a new camera for xmas :rolleyes:i wonder.
 
The pop up VF is an improvement over not having one but it would have a lot more appeal to me if the VF was the more conventional in the corner type.

However, that aside and considering the very nice lens as a package it looks if anything to be a bit of a bargain and I'm sure it'll sell.
 
woof woof said:
The pop up VF is an improvement over not having one but it would have a lot more appeal to me if the VF was the more conventional in the corner type.

However, that aside and considering the very nice lens as a package it looks if anything to be a bit of a bargain and I'm sure it'll sell.
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I'm a bit worried about the pop up VF will it stand up to everyday use?
 
Hoof said:
I'm a bit worried about the pop up VF will it stand up to everyday use?
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Put it this way, I can't see it being the kind of camera you'd just sling in your bag like the X100T
 
Hoof said:
think your right at that price.
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You have to remember that you are paying for a high resolution "FF" camera with a very good lens and when you realise that the price, IMO, looks very reasonable. To match the cameras resolution and the nice lens you'd need to spend more for a Canon or Nikon.

It is IMO in a different class to any Fuji and I'd question anyone who would just sling any quality camera in a bag. Treat it with respect and I'm pretty sure you could take it anywhere, as people did and do with the previous model or in fact any Canon or Nikon FF DSLR.
 
RX1 was so close to being the best camera I could ever think of owning. I loved it but it wasn't without some serious frustrations. They would appear to have fixed pretty much all of the issues with the RX1 with this one, but I think it would be fair to say the price is a serious stumbling point for me.
 
ukaskew said:
RX1 was so close to being the best camera I could ever think of owning. I loved it but it wasn't without some serious frustrations. They would appear to have fixed pretty much all of the issues with the RX1 with this one, but I think it would be fair to say the price is a serious stumbling point for me.
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My issues were frustration with both AF and MF - Sony now say 30% faster AF doesn't sound amazing, but that doesn't sound ground breaking to me.

With the RX1R AF didn't lock quick enough for street photography, and I couldn't MF either - the focal distance resets to infinity every time the camera powers down (which due to short battery life will be often if you want to keep shooting). This mean zone focussing was a royal PITA, since you would constantly lose your focal distance.

And the battery life is set to become even shorter with the new revision?

Although all that said, I don't think they will do anything to make me give up on the Leica Q.
 
I'm with you 100% dan, I think the RX1Rii is very impressive in terms of what it packs into a compact body but the Q is still my choice (mine arrives next week hopefully). For me it comes down to:

28mm - I enjoy the extra width over 35mm
MF - this was painful on the RX1 but looks to be a joy with the Q
AF - in decent light the RX1 was okay, in bad light it was near useless, since the lens assembly is unchanged I don't expect a huge improvement and would be surprised if it was as good as the Q
Handling - the Q is larger but also more ergonomic IMO. Let's be honest, neither camera will fit in a pocket easily and you'd have them on a strap or in a small bag so any size/weight saving is pretty insignificant.
EVF - The pop-up EVF is better than no EVF but I still think it's a hassle especially with the weird screw on hood.
Purity - this is very personal but Sony cameras always feel quite cold and whilst I loved the images my RX1 produced, I didn't love shooting with it. The Q seems to garner unanimous praise for making you want to get out and take photos.

To me, the RX1Rii makes sense for Sony as they've effectively just cannibalised a few extras and put them in the original RX1. They slap a bit extra on the price and know they will shift a reasonable number of them, especially to those who crave 35mm or chase higher MP (for me, 42MP is veering into too much).

They will both give fantastic images and there isn't a clear winner for everyone, ultimately it is just nice that we now have two great full frame compacts to choose from based on each individual's preferences :)
 
Most importantly, does it have an infinity indicator on the screen / VF when in MF as this is one of my biggest frustrations with the RX100 and RX1!
 
Well Sony have certainly taken long enough to release this! I have the RX1 and given the price of this Mark II, I will not be upgrading. I thought Sony were delaying releasing this because of issues concerning the final development of their new curved sensor which clearly is not implemented here!!
 
I would be sort of half interested but 24mp is easily enough for me and I can't really see any great advantage over an A7 and 35mm f2.8. The RX1r2 may be slightly more compact but I doubt it'll be enough to matter to me.

Lovely camera though and I think they'll sell all they can make.
 
I had an RX1 Previously and it took a great picture. I sold due to the external VF and AF. It looks like this camera may fit the bill.
The previous cam easily matched my M240 + Summilux combo from a photographic output perspective, as long as you didn't use the camera for medium-fast action type stuff as zone focusing wasn't good on the EVF. Battery life is still a bit of a bummer though.
 
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