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Sony A7 > Fuji X-E2

^^^^ that's what I'm considering.....

I came from 5D2 (for 4 years or so) to Sony A7 about 18 months ago. I only have the FE35 2.8 and about 8 or so old manual lenses including Voigtlander 40/1.4, FD85/1.8, Leitz Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8.... Not a bad kit by any means. But manual focus.

Now I'm wanting fast 35mm and 85mm primes - In Sony land that is the best part of 2k used for the 35/1.4 and Batis 85mm.

Instead, I'm thinking of a swap to X-E2 with the XF23/1.4 and XF56/1.2 - This comes in at under 1.5k with the added bonus that if I end up sticking with Fuji, I can sell the Sony/manual kit as well.

Am I thinking in the right direction?

My main concerns against are...

AF speed - As long as it matches the A7 and FE35 2.8 I'm happy.
Going from FF 24 megapixels to APS-C 16MP - Is there really going to be that much of an issue in the real, Internet sharing, Flickr uploading, 6x4 photo album printing, world??
I think I have Lightroom 5 - If it'll take the A7 RAWs I presume it'll take the X-E2

The pros are obviously autofocus, smaller size again, weight, price difference, possible income from Sony related sales.......

Sorry, that's a bit of a long post!!

Input and opinions appreciated though :)
 
I'd go Fuji every time if you want to use autofocus lenses on a lesser budget. Just bear in mind that the Sony can give another stop and a bit at high ISO before getting all bleurrgh.

The 23/1.4 has quick focus, the 56/1.2 not so much. It's perfectly usable, just not one of the quickest.

As a side note, I much prefer using my X-E2 to the Sony a7 regardless of lenses. That's a personal thing of course, I just enjoy the Fuji more and have sold three a7 bodies now after trying, but failing, to bond with them.
 
LeeRatters said:
Going from FF 24 megapixels to APS-C 16MP - Is there really going to be that much of an issue in the real, Internet sharing, Flickr uploading, 6x4 photo album printing, world??
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In he real world, no. Even up to A3+, the Fujis print very well. Spend a little time setting the thing up to output JPEGs to your liking and you may find that raws are redundant. Not sure about the AF speed - any modern AF is faster and more accurate than my MFing!
 
LeeRatters said:
Sony A7 > Fuji X-E2

Am I thinking in the right direction?
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Only you can decide if the costs and savings are significant and if you'll be happier changing systems or if you'd regret not sticking with what you have.

I'd choose the Sony FF every time especially if using old manual lenses (and I do) but if I had to go APS-C with a gun to my head I'd go Sony A6xxx as at least the bodies offer a bit of a saving in bulk and you could use your existing 35mm f2.8. With the A6xxx you can also get the APS-C 24mm f1.8 (which is by accounts excellent) and FE 55mm f1.8 (which I have and can confirm is excellent) or there's the cheaper FE 50mm f1.8 for a FF equivalent 35 and 85-ish set up and your 35mm acting as a 50mm-ish. There are also the other APS-C specific Sony lenses.

One thing you should maybe think about is if you're going to be happy going to any APS-C set up after having the A7 and you're going to lose the FF field of view with your manual lenses. You could even think about MFT. They've got some excellent and reasonably priced fast primes and the RF style cameras offer a saving in bulk over the mini SLR designs.

I used to lust after the Fuji's and their manual dials but now I've come to think that for using the camera rather than looking at it I prefer the way everyone else does it with the more usual front/back dials. Personally, you'd have to prise my A7 out of my hand and replace it with another FF CSC very quickly :D
 
I did presume the high ISO wouldn't be as good - but Sony indoors with high ISO I'm at f/2.8 usually and with the Fuji I'd be bigger with the f-stop so I don't think that's a worry as such. Plus it's usually candid stuff of the kids so I don't require DOF like at events etc

My MF'ing is accurate but it's the aggro of magnifying etc that's part of the process ;)

I'm not sure I'd keep the manual lenses if I decided to go for and stick with the Fuji. I'm thinking the Fuji set up in my first post will replace my most used focal lengths. When I have the FE35 2.8 on the A7, I feel lost without the aperture control on the lens ;)
 
Will the Fuji at f1.4 give a significant improvement over the Sony at f2.8? Regardless of if either set up proves to be better there's the cost implications to think about.

I just have the AF kit lens, 35mm f2.8 and 55mm f1.8 and for my lesser used stuff I have manual lenses for 24 to 200mm.

Good luck choosing but I think you just fancy the Fuji and may not be happy until you've tried one and there's nothing wrong with that :D
 
I went though a similar situation a short while back as I was considering moving over to a Fuji XT-2, in the end I didn't want to give up the advantages of having a FF sensor so stuck with Sony.
As mentioned, only you can decide if the extra cost of FF is worth it or go down the Fuji APS-C route.
Both have advantages and disadvantages so make sure you accept them before making the decision.
The Sony system isn't cheap but you get what you pay for, I doubt any Fuji lenses come close to the Batis offerings.
 
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I did presume the high ISO wouldn't be as good - but Sony indoors with high ISO I'm at f/2.8 usually and with the Fuji I'd be bigger with the f-stop so I don't think that's a worry as such. Plus it's usually candid stuff of the kids so I don't require DOF like at events etc

My MF'ing is accurate but it's the aggro of magnifying etc that's part of the process ;)

I'm not sure I'd keep the manual lenses if I decided to go for and stick with the Fuji. I'm thinking the Fuji set up in my first post will replace my most used focal lengths. When I have the FE35 2.8 on the A7, I feel lost without the aperture control on the lens ;)
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This has just reminded me that the X-T1/2 have an EVF mode where you can see the whole image plus the magnified view at the chosen focus point, at the same time. Great for manual lenses, but sadly not implemented on the X-E series as the EVF isn't so big.
 
I can give you a sort of comparison and input but I don't know how much it will help you. I have a FF Sony and APS-C Fuji - my X-T1 has the same sensor as the X-E2 but my FF Sony is the RX1R.

The X-E2 sits between the X-Pro1 (which I also have) and X-T1 so I would imagine its AF is pretty reasonable and quick for normal shooting. I don't know how the A7 compares with the RX1R for AF...the RX1R is obviously not geared up for action but I've used it for stationary objects right down to very dark conditions and as long as you focus on edges, it will achieve focus.

I've printed from my X-Pro1 to 36" x 24" with no loss of quality (although it was a long exposure) but certainly 24" x 16" is no problem for 16MP so for what you mentioned (internet sharing, Flickr, 6x4) it's a walk in the park. Just one thing: again, I don't know how the 35 f2.8 stacks up against the 35 f2 Zeiss of the RX1R but at 100% my RX1R absolutely hammers my X-T1 in terms of resolution and detail retention and also high ISO performance, but that might well be the 'unique' nature of the camera.

I have no problems at all with the quality of any of my Fuji cameras and they are really nice to use. If you do buy one you will be very happy. Just see if you are happy with the output and performance before selling your A7. FF does bring certain advantages over APS-C. I would also consider a used X-T1 - its AF is better than the X-E2 and it's not really that much bigger.
 
If anything there's less cost implications fully switching to Fuji!! I might lose a little if don't enjoy and sell on though, but that's a gamble in going to take.

X-E2 and 23/1.4 are here. Just waiting on UPS with the 56/1.2 and a new memory card.....
 
Well, after over a week of ownership & rubbish weather & dark evenings I'm hoping to go take some photos today in addition to just the few 'around the house test type photos' :)
 
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