Somerset levels - complaining about the problem but not helping with the solution?

purpleclouds said:
Nuclear fission, which is what is being talked about here is old hat technology these days. Plough any investment into nuclear fusion. Very clean, no waste, zero danger of meltdown etc, and runs on water.
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I am all for it, but do you realise that we are about 30-40 years away even from building a properly working prototype ITER reactor? We sort of need something today and fission is more or less the only high power solution we have worked out.
 
daugirdas said:
I am all for it, but do you realise that we are about 30-40 years away even from building a properly working prototype ITER reactor? We sort of need something today and fission is more or less the only high power solution we have worked out.
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It's costing $50bn to build ITER, pocket money when spread between the countries involved.. was my point. It's been proven time and again throughout warfare that technological advancements can be sped up if it is so required.
 
purpleclouds said:
It's costing $50bn to build ITER, pocket money when spread between the countries involved.. was my point. It's been proven time and again throughout warfare that technological advancements can be sped up if it is so required.
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I don't think ITER can develop any faster. Poor scientists can only work so fast. A competing project or two with knowledge sharing would drive things quicker. Of course if you kindly ask Putin to move his fingers he may just as well provide us some good reasons.
 
DorsetDude said:
Wind turbines, pah! The ones down here, they switch them off when it's calm. Beggars belief!

I'll get me coat.
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They trip in at a wind speed of about 4 m/sec, but they are not efficient until they reach their rated wind speed. Typically wind turbines only work efficiently at steady wind speeds between about 15 and 25 m/sec. Above 25 (approx) m/sec they trip out.
 
purpleclouds said:
It's costing $50bn to build ITER, pocket money when spread between the countries involved.. was my point. It's been proven time and again throughout warfare that technological advancements can be sped up if it is so required.
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So lets invade Russia, get all their oil and advance ourselves. Or take back our empire!!!
 
chadders said:
They trip in at a wind speed of about 4 m/sec, but they are not efficient until they reach their rated wind speed. Typically wind turbines only work efficiently at steady wind speeds between about 15 and 25 m/sec. Above 25 (approx) m/sec they trip out.
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Please check my maths....So around 40-ish MPH is what turbines love? Blimey! :eek:
 
ST4 said:
So lets invade Russia, get all their oil and advance ourselves. Or take back our empire!!!
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Shall we wait a couple of days just to make sure our empire is anything to do with you chaps up there anymore? :lol: :lol:
 
viv1969 said:
Please check my maths....So around 40-ish MPH is what turbines love? Blimey! :eek:
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In general terms, yes. However, there are a number of design variables. But when you see them turning nicely on a balmy summer day they may look pretty but they are actually producing next to sweet F.A.
 
chadders said:
In general terms, yes. However, there are a number of design variables. But when you see them turning nicely on a balmy summer day they may look pretty but they are actually producing next to sweet F.A.
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Why am I not surprised :lol:
 
Yep wind turbines one of the great energy hoaxes of our time.
 
chadders said:
In general terms, yes. However, there are a number of design variables. But when you see them turning nicely on a balmy summer day they may look pretty but they are actually producing next to sweet F.A.
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But thats what the power cables are for, when the wind drop's they switch to drawing current, to keep them turning.
I thought everyone knew that?
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munch said:
Yep wind turbines one of the great energy hoaxes of our time.
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I did hear, and I have no idea if its true or not,
but they take more energy to make, than they'll every produce in their "lifetime"
Its a nice story, and as above, no idea if its true or not.
 
Wind turbines generally only produce 30% of their maximum output. Whilst most conventional powers stations average 50% of their maximum out put. But a conventional power station makes its power when it is needed. a wind turbine on the other hand makes it when it can, so it is even less efficient.
 
ST4 said:
Google the multi barrier technique. It's safe for hundreds if not thousands of years.
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The fact we have to make something safe for that long just goes to show how bad nuclear is. I have to admit I have no idea how they transport the waste but I wonder how safe that is?
 
ST4 said:
I'm British, it was the British empire. I will be living in Britain I am confident, even if it means moving a bit further south worse case
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Even in worst case, you'll be Scottish living in England ;)
 
Off course we won't need much power generation soon anyway with the EU laws. Take the hover law. Its now limited to 1600 watts and is soon to go down to 900w. I use a neumatic VAC for valeting cars, very similar to a henry. The standard size neumatic motor is 1200w. The thing is even though in a full valet I brush first it still can take ages to VAC a car properly, especially with dog hair. As you can tell I'm all for saving the environment so why don't I want 900w hovers? Because they won't suck for crap and will take twice as long to use so using more power.
 
Cobra said:
There's one good reason to close the border right there :D
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Yet someone from India for example can be British and not an Indian living in England??


Sorry quoted the wrong person
Was sent to quote:
viv1969 said:
Even in worst case, you'll be Scottish living in England ;)
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Raptor Mike said:
The fact we have to make something safe for that long just goes to show how bad nuclear is. I have to admit I have no idea how they transport the waste but I wonder how safe that is?
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Believe it or not, much of it is transported by regular transport methods (rail, road,sea) under Class 7 IMDG and ADR regulations. yes it's shielded, but I'd like to bet many have passed nuclear waste on a motorway and known nothing about it.
 
Raptor Mike said:
Yet someone from India for example can be British and not an Indian living in England??


Sorry quoted the wrong person
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He'd be free to apply for British Citizenship like everyone else :lol:
 
Raptor Mike said:
Off course we won't need much power generation soon anyway with the EU laws. Take the hover law. Its now limited to 1600 watts and is soon to go down to 900w. I use a neumatic VAC for valeting cars, very similar to a henry. The standard size neumatic motor is 1200w. The thing is even though in a full valet I brush first it still can take ages to VAC a car properly, especially with dog hair. As you can tell I'm all for saving the environment so why don't I want 900w hovers? Because they won't suck for crap and will take twice as long to use so using more power.
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I'm confused. I can see that hovering must take a lot of power, but do vacuum cleaners actually need to hover? Don't they just sit on the floor?
 
Garry Edwards said:
I'm confused. I can see that hovering must take a lot of power, but do vacuum cleaners actually need to hover? Don't they just sit on the floor?
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Have you not seen the advert?
Its a lot less bovver wiv a hover :)
 
DemiLion said:
The flooding on the Levels has b****r all to do with global warming. It's primarily due to the lack of maintenance and dredging of the drainage runs by the EA.
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thats not really the case - more dredging doesnt necessarily help if theres nowhere for the water to go, it also leads to a higher risk of salination and tidal surges coming upstream - the reasons the levels flooded are

a) it rained like buggery and

b) its supposed to be a marsh - if you drain a marsh and build all over it , it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see whats going to happen sooner or later.

If we didnt keep building on areas that arent supposed to be built on we wouldnt have these problems..
 
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