Some help with Shooting with wirelss triggers ?

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OK probably a daft question but if I shoot with my nissin flash as normal on TTL mode using whichever camera mode (A, S etc) will a flash (Yongnuo 460 ll)set up on a wireless trigger (RF603) work.

I understand the Yongnuo 460 ll is manual only but would I still be able to set my Nissin as normal and use the Yongnuo (set manually) to add extra light as needed ?

Sorry for daft questions I am new to off camera flash work..... :nuts:
 
You could, but you would find it tricky getting the balance right. Your Nissin will fire a pre flash to allow your camera to gauge the amount of light required for the scene, and will then make the exposure and fire the flash. At this point, your additional flash (The Yongnuo) will throw in it's additional light, which hasn't been taken into account by the camera when it made the calculations for the iTTL exposure. If the Yongnuo was only a bit of fill, you may get away with it, or you may find it blows the scene to bits.
The best way would really be to go fully manual to be honest. That way, you're taking control as you know exactly how much light you want from each gun, and you have a pre-conceived idea as to how you would like the scene to look.
 
Michael Sewell said:
You could, but you would find it tricky getting the balance right. Your Nissin will fire a pre flash to allow your camera to gauge the amount of light required for the scene, and will then make the exposure and fire the flash. At this point, your additional flash (The Yongnuo) will throw in it's additional light, which hasn't been taken into account by the camera when it made the calculations for the iTTL exposure. If the Yongnuo was only a bit of fill, you may get away with it, or you may find it blows the scene to bits.
The best way would really be to go fully manual to be honest. That way, you're taking control as you know exactly how much light you want from each gun, and you have a pre-conceived idea as to how you would like the scene to look.
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Thanks for that, so when you say manual do you mean the flashes the camera or both... ?
 
Basically, to get the best of the situation, you want to have your camera in manual mode, so you are selecting the ideal ISO (usually the lowest available, but not necessarily), an aperture to suit and also control the flash lighting levels etc, and the shutter speed to control the ambient light captured.
The flash is used in manual mode because you can then dictate how much light falls on your subject, and also how it falls depending on any modifier used.
 
OK thanks, I do know about using flash on its own on manual its using additional wireless flashes that throws me off :thinking: :D
 
not that model, no.
My speedlight arsenal is made up of 1xSB900 3xSB800 1xSB600 2xMetz 54mz -3 plus some oldies and odduns I prefer not to mention :naughty:

I've recommended the YN560 to a lot of photographers, some I've taught and others are full on Pros, and they've all been very impressed. They take abuse quite well and are sturdy little guns.
 
Michael Sewell said:
not that model, no.
My speedlight arsenal is made up of 1xSB900 3xSB800 1xSB600 2xMetz 54mz -3 plus some oldies and odduns I prefer not to mention :naughty:

I've recommended the YN560 to a lot of photographers, some I've taught and others are full on Pros, and they've all been very impressed. They take abuse quite well and are sturdy little guns.
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Yeah but getting into the pricey bracket :)

Hmmm maybe I should save, so without reading online what advantage does the 560 have over the 460 ?

Actually just seen this REVIEW
 
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Two big advantages - Power out and power in!
Power out = Similar power output levels to the SB800 and other speedlights at that end of the market (580 from canon etc).
Power in = It will take an external power pack, in fact any external power pack, that is capable of being plugged into the canon 580ex speedlights. The YN560 has the same socket.
So, if you want more light available, or you want to shoot for longer, or require faster recycle times, there really is no other choice for around the £50 mark :D
 
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Michael Sewell said:
Very true, although I had only talked "new" due to original question.
John, the econd hand market is well worth a look, just don't get carried away on the auction sites. Some of the older Nikon speedlights have gone for silly money :bonk:
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I knew full well what you were referring to, I just couldn't resist it :naughty:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
I don't know yet, Michael I think the temptation to buy stuff I don't need would be too great...:lol:
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Don't give in to the dark side, this isn't the equipment you're looking for :nono:

If you do get there, come and say hello, stand F20
 
Michael Sewell said:
Very true, although I had only talked "new" due to original question.
John, the second hand market is well worth a look, just don't get carried away on the auction sites. Some of the older Nikon speedlights have gone for silly money :bonk:
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I'm trying put together a cheap strobe kit and have two working SB27s (free). Only problem is that the front screens have degreaded and Nikon have no spares :-(

On ebay there are SB27s selling for silly money !!
 
DrRusty said:
I'm trying put together a cheap strobe kit and have two working SB27s (free). Only problem is that the front screens have degreaded and Nikon have no spares :-(

On ebay there are SB27s selling for silly money !!
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I think you'll have to look out for "spares / repair" sales, as that's going to be your only source for those fronts
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Secondhand SB24/25/26 ;)
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Michael Sewell said:
Very true, although I had only talked "new" due to original question.
John, the second hand market is well worth a look, just don't get carried away on the auction sites. Some of the older Nikon speedlights have gone for silly money :bonk:
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Yeah I have looked at the old Nikon speedlights but I think once you mention 'Nikon' they double in price and then some........ seen them go to mad prices :nuts: :gag:
 
TheCrewDesigns said:
Yeah I have looked at the old Nikon speedlights but I think once you mention 'Nikon' they double in price and then some........ seen them go to mad prices :nuts: :gag:
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Not at all, they sell on here for between £40-50 all the time....
 
TheCrewDesigns said:
Thanks, but £15 more than most sell if for
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True, and you may be able to pick up the stofen dome and four good rechargeables for the £15 you would save, including the postage. Although that may mean your real saving is around £5, possibly less
 
Michael Sewell said:
True, and you may be able to pick up the stofen dome and four good rechargeables for the £15 you would save, including the postage. Although that may mean your real saving is around £5, possibly less
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If you do buy one I'll sort you out a "stofen" for the cost of the postage :thumbs:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Sorry, no I don't, all I have is a large box full of diffusers for them :lol:
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OK and thanks again for the kind offer, I appreciate it :thumbs:

At the moment I am wondering if I should just make do with my Nissin for off camera work. Just got the firmware updated so now it works with wireless trigger but manual like the Yongnuo
 
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