Some good kit for sale

Bo2007 said:
taken from POTN:

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Not sure about the substance of this guy but looking at it it does seem very suspect

Shane
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I don't understand. Taken from POTN where? I''m a POTN member, and I can't find that message allegedly posted on POTN. Searching for distinctive keywords from it (e.g. mclarenalonso) has a null return too.

Can anyone tell me what's going on here?
 
i hate to say 'i told you so' :( Though, i was kinda hoping it wouldn't be the case, i had my doubts from the first time i saw it. As i said in my OP, he could have got so much more for his kit so easily, as they say, if something looks too good to be true, it usually is the case.
 
StewartR said:
I don't understand. Taken from POTN where? I''m a POTN member, and I can't find that message allegedly posted on POTN. Searching for distinctive keywords from it (e.g. mclarenalonso) has a null return too.

Can anyone tell me what's going on here?
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pm i imagine.
 
It looks as though the seller may not be genuine. Email addresses that he gave out to folks have now been deleted, and he has listed more than one location where he might live. he also used the photographs from somebody else's For Sale thread as representing his own kit.

You may choose to believe that he is still to be trusted, but I, for one, do not.
 
There has been a lot of thread cleaning on thre over this!! im still getting notices to replies to threads that dont show up anywhere!! dont worry, ur not the only one with that problem.. iv has some emails from members and its all been a bit swept under the carpet!..

Anyway, it looks like he's a scammer, he run a web site for 'Special needs' which stopped working today, and he runs a forum called wdpics.com and goes under the name of Darren, thats come from another sourse and not me.. but if anyone wants to do some snooping.. its regestered to an address in Twickenham but there is a phone number for potters bar..
Thats all for now on Witch hunt Thursday.. lol..
 
Oh well, as long as not too many people got stung from here.. its a shame that these people can do these things.. i was really looking forward to going to the Lakes... :bang:

Anyway, maybe we can dig a bit more on this guy.. we may end up meeting anyway... :bat: :woot:
 
"I don't understand. Taken from POTN where? I''m a POTN member, and I can't find that message allegedly posted on POTN"

it was removed by admin which I cant understand are they not meant to try and protect members???????
 
Yeah, but they got a duty to protect the inosent.. guilty untill proven i guess.. but theres few guys on there including the one that posted about his suspicions are all up in arms over it.. and because they turned out right im with them.. but, if he HAD turned out to be genuine... i think over all they were right not to allow SOME of the posts.. but the way they did it was wrong!! not ONE WORD from the mods... just deleted!! untill one poped up and cl;osed it for about 10 mins then reopened it.. over all not a good way to run the show..
 
Anyway, were hot on his heals!!! :thumbs:
 
Hi,

I watched the thread on Canon Forums and was immediately suspicious, but surely the mods are only there to administer the threads/posts, and as per the rules if they feel someone is harranging a poster/thread starter then they are obliged to step in. There is no way mods can protect buyers/sellers, they can help but ultimately it is "CAVEAT EMPTOR - "Let the buyer beware". eBay anyone? works on exactly that principal.

I actually thought it curious to see that no-one actually posted that "hey pal, you are losing a packet selling at these prices you'd be better adjusting them", especially as it appeared that the seller was not in the best of health and gave the impression that he was trying to get cash to take his wife on a cruise before.......? ultimately and this is only my opinion that greed can be the cause of many (not all ) people being sucked into deals like this, I wonder how many of these items HAD it been genuine would have appeared elsewhere at the 'right price'.

I hope everyone involved gets their money back, although unlikely, but please don't blame the MODS they are only their to police the threads and a damn good job they do too.

Here what I do to avoid getting caught with deals like these:

Check out when the seller joined ( the seller 'oldhand' on Canon Forums only joined just before he posted the for sale thread ), how many posts, feedback, sometimes if a seller has eBay feedback (quite oten quoted to help convice of their honesty )that is pretty high, watch out for old feedback suddenly having new items sold/bought, the account might be hijacked. Also check the feedback, he/she might be buying small value items from similar usernames just to boost feedback rating.

Ask for name, address and telephone number, ( these can easily be cross referenced via the t'intenet ) it is usually enough to put seller off you as an 'easy' catch, you will then realise he/she isn't genuine as they will most likely completely ignore you. I nearly got caught last month with an MP3 player off ebay, I WAS suspicious and asked for opinions on here, I had already asked for the sellers info and I was ignored....... that then, with the advice offered here convinced me to avoid paying, turned out he was a scammer and removed from eBay.

You can also ask as Fraggle did above to meet and pay COD, that can also make them drop you like a hot potato.

And remember Paypal protection isn't worth the paper it's written on, it doesn't protect you outside of eBay and there are quite a few requirements to meet before protection IS applied even on eBay, watch out for the 'chargeback' scam where you receive paypal payment immedately, the buyer gets goods ( says they haven't arrived and must be lost in post) and then charges back the money from you and Paypal immediately refund him the money, he now has goods AND the cash, remember Paypal payments aren't guarantee'd until they are in your Bank account and that takes 5 - 7 working days, I usually wait that time BEFORE posting.

Sorry probably drivveling on now so I'll go and fingers crossed this seller IF he/she is a scammer gets what he deserves and the buyers come out ok.

Right I'm off to the Forums to look for some bargains, I know, I can't help myself either ;)

Mike.
 
yes at the end of the day it is buyer beware I was nearly caught out a few time the other week both on ebay and on POTN the post on there was removed with in seconds of it going up on that occasion !! . but I do have to disagree with you when they have been told its a scam they should take action but all they did was remove the warning!!. oldhand has since been banned from the forum.
 
rickj said:
yes at the end of the day it is buyer beware I was nearly caught out a few time the other week both on ebay and on POTN the post on there was removed with in seconds of it going up on that occasion !! . but I do have to disagree with you when they have been told its a scam they should take action but all they did was remove the warning!!. oldhand has since been banned from the forum.
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Hi,

I didn't see all the thread as it was changing rapidly, but I did the see the post from the Cop who was supposedly an interent fraud expert who was challenging the seller, this post and subsequent ones were removed as per Forums rules, I can't comment on whether the MODS were told it was defintely a scam, not sure they ever were, I mean even now we're not sure,

Oh and better watch out Oldgit is a member on here and he DEFINTELY wasn't the seller it was OLDHAND :D

Mike.
 
rickj said:
now edited could have been messy sorry if any offence meant as a joke
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oops soz for spoiling it, I get it now, bit slow this morning :D

Mike.
 
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