So who's laughing now, Apple or Adobe.

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neil_g said:
meh.. keep your av up to date and whats it matter
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Depends how long this flaw was about before this was given to the public. Sure all doors may not be closed to hackers just yet.

Love adobes comment.

Whilst it works to fix the problem, the company suggested upgrading to the latest "release candidate" for the Adobe Flash Player, version 10.1, which it said "does not appear to be vulnerable".

Got to love that level of confidence!
 
"It doesn't really get any worse than a 'zero-day' vulnerability like this," said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos, a security software company.

Even keeping your AV up to date wont help on these types of vulnerabilities.

It takes at least 24 hours for the coders to find and write the updates.
 
ding76uk said:
Depends how long this flaw was about before this was given to the public. Sure all doors may not be closed to hackers just yet.

Love adobes comment.

Whilst it works to fix the problem, the company suggested upgrading to the latest "release candidate" for the Adobe Flash Player, version 10.1, which it said "does not appear to be vulnerable".

Got to love that level of confidence!
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seriously, of all of the over hyped by the media (especially the BBC) security issues with any software be it Adobe, MS etc has anyone ever suffered at the hands of one of these "major" issues directly? a quick show of hands maybe... and im not talking about your average run of the mill trojans.

id wager none.
 
Hawkmoon said:
"It doesn't really get any worse than a 'zero-day' vulnerability like this," said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos, a security software company.

Even keeping your AV up to date wont help on these types of vulnerabilities.

It takes at least 24 hours for the coders to find and write the updates.
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No, but updating the offending software to the latest version is an instant fix and there has been an update available for a while now for Flash Player 10.
 
neil_g said:
meh.. keep your av up to date and whats it matter
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There are plenty of flaws in antivirus systems too... and my personal opinion of them is one that doesn't bear mentioning on this forum. ;)
 
I don't see the point of this.
Doesn't matter if its Adobe or any other company.
If someone is hell bent on infultrating (with the intent to cause virtual harm) to a computer, they won't wait on Adobe software showing a potential weakness they will just do it anyway!!!!!!

The best hackers and virus writers in the world don't need flawed software to reek havoc.

As for Apple, why would they be laughing????
 
stupar said:
I don't see the point of this.
Doesn't matter if its Adobe or any other company.
If someone is hell bent on infultrating (with the intent to cause virtual harm) to a computer, they won't wait on Adobe software showing a potential weakness they will just do it anyway!!!!!!

The best hackers and virus writers in the world don't need flawed software to reek havoc.

As for Apple, why would they be laughing????
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I guess since they consider flash to be very buggy and not secure and this proves it? I would say they would more likely be saying "I told you so" than laughing since it affects their laptop and desktop products too.
 

Apple have not noticed yet, they're all at a launch conference with reporters stealing all their WIFI....:D
 
joescrivens said:
I guess since they consider flash to be very buggy and not secure and this proves it? I would say they would more likely be saying "I told you so" than laughing since it affects their laptop and desktop products too.
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Correct me if I am wrong though didn't apple have issues with a "sun" java bug that left OS X systems open to attack just last year!
I am sure they treated it also as low risk.
Whilst there was no major catastrophe, these two scenarios are very similar.

Therefore no one should become complacent and laugh at the opposition when something like this happens.
 
flash is just a good target because its multi platform and multi browser, so by targetting it you are effectivly going after every device at once, so it really is a victim of its own sucess.

if this is in relation to flash not being on the iphone as steve does not like it, this does not relate I dont believe to the open screen project which is the mobile version of flash.

I cant see why apple or adobe would think this is good

Everyone needs to take security seriously, education people is the best way (and removing IE6 is a good second ;) )

I thought the problem with wifi at wwdc was not that people where on it, but everyone was running their own hotspot and probably causing to much chaos over the airwaves, nodoubt alot of froyo handsets out there for laptop tethering lol.
 
I think they're both laughing. Apple because they will have people lining up down the street to buy the new iPhone and Adobe because they will have thousands of orders for Lightroom3 in the next few days.
 
stupar said:
Correct me if I am wrong though didn't apple have issues with a "sun" java bug that left OS X systems open to attack just last year!
I am sure they treated it also as low risk.
Whilst there was no major catastrophe, these two scenarios are very similar.

Therefore no one should become complacent and laugh at the opposition when something like this happens.
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like I said I don't think they'll be laughing.
 
KayJay said:
No, but updating the offending software to the latest version is an instant fix and there has been an update available for a while now for Flash Player 10.
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company suggested upgrading to the latest "release candidate" for the Adobe Flash Player, version 10.1, which it said "does not appear to be vulnerable".
 
I'm sure Adobe were laughing when the new iphone didn't work correctly in front of the worlds tech media.
 
Adobe say that Flash is an important part of using the Web and that Apple are doing their customers a disservice by not supporting it. So what's Adobe's excuse for this?
 
hollis_f said:
Adobe say that Flash is an important part of using the Web and that Apple are doing their customers a disservice by not supporting it. So what's Adobe's excuse for this?
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I guess their excuse is that they are commited to it and are working on a release, there is even a pre-release beta for 64 bit linux.

So do they need an excuse?
 
joescrivens said:
I guess their excuse is that they are commited to it and are working on a release, there is even a pre-release beta for 64 bit linux.

So do they need an excuse?
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I was just thinking that it's a good example of pots, kettles and less than 18% grey.
 
hollis_f said:
I was just thinking that it's a good example of pots, kettles and less than 18% grey.
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I'm not sure its that good an example. Apple have point blank said they wont support flash

Adobe are just late on a release to support an OS. Happens all the time
 
joescrivens said:
Adobe are just late on a release to support an OS. Happens all the time
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Er, 8 years is more than a bit late. If, as Adobe claim, Flash support was so important you'd have thought they'd have got it sorted by now.
 
But then most people don't use the x64 browser (in windows at least) because it's not just Flash that doesn't work properly.

I've been using x64 versions of windows for about 6 years and I rarely use the x64 browser...
 
hollis_f said:
Er, 8 years is more than a bit late. If, as Adobe claim, Flash support was so important you'd have thought they'd have got it sorted by now.
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well they have pretty much, its stated to be part of 10.1 and it looks like thats imminent any time soon
 
joescrivens said:
well they have pretty much, its stated to be part of 10.1 and it looks like thats imminent any time soon
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Er, nope. They've said "We expect to provide native support for 64-bit platforms in an upcoming release of Flash Player following the release of Flash Player 10.1. " Which I read as being after 10.1
 
hollis_f said:
Er, nope. They've said "We expect to provide native support for 64-bit platforms in an upcoming release of Flash Player following the release of Flash Player 10.1. " Which I read as being after 10.1
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So when it's released won't this make your point moot?
 
I don't quite understand the problem... Wow, there are some email addresses, addresses that are probably easily found online anyway. How is this going to compromise the users security?:shrug:
 
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