So where is the other 100+GB?

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Hi,
Hope a computer expert can help me here. I have a laptop with about 135 GB of which it tells me there is 58gb free. [Windows Vista]. Where's the rest?! I don't have games and my picture file comes to under 9gb.
I have cleared out all the temp files etc under the clean up, anything else I can do? I would like to look at something on here that says where the rest is!

Cheers,

Dunc
 
have you tried down the back of the sofa?

as ali said you might have a partitioned drive, right click my computer/computer do manage then disk management.

or try something like spacemounger, thatll tell you where all your space is at.
 
your OS will be a chunk, plus your Program Files (Adobe installs etc). then you'll probably have a pagefile (1.5x the amount of RAM you have installed)... maybe a hiberfil file for hibernation which is turned on even if you dont use it.

it all disappears quite quickly.

try TreeSize: http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/
 
Click Start - Computer
In the View drop down list select Details
What is listed there?
 
There may be a hidden partition containing your operating system recovery files.
 
SUVV,
If I click on start and then computer I get a new window with info on drives but nothing with the sort of info I was looking for. I also don't get anything that says 'detail' i can click on. I am running vista.

Cheers,

Dunc
 
download a little thing called "treesize" you can get the pro version as a 30 day demo. It looks at all your drives and dislpays them graphically so you can easily see the biggest files.... I,m sure you,ll probably see hwere you left some old Cr*p you dont want anymore. Also I use CCleaner. Its free and removes all the junk that gets left behind with normal use.
 
Click My Computer then right click on your main hard disk drive probably C:, then click properties/disk clean up.

This might take a while but will show you if there are any unused files that are taking up space.
 
Click My Computer then right click on your main hard disk drive probably C:, then click properties/disk clean up.

This might take a while but will show you if there are any unused files that are taking up space.

please dont select the standard options though, it will try and compress "old" files. thatll just slow the machine down. careful it doesnt empty your recycle bin also.
 
There may be a hidden partition containing your operating system recovery files.

dont get me wrong, but if that partition was 100+ gb i'd be concerned.
 
How much has Vista taken for a swap file?
 
I had this problem, 80~GB was gone and I tried Diskclean up and everything to recover the space. I ended up just backing up all my media and doing a fresh install. Not the best option but it worked .
 
SUVV,
If I click on start and then computer I get a new window with info on drives but nothing with the sort of info I was looking for. I also don't get anything that says 'detail' i can click on. I am running vista.

Cheers,

Dunc

OK after clicking on Start - Computer you get an info window with a Views menu item at the top. Click on the down arrow by that and select detail.
If you get a list with just the heading Name at the top then Rt click on Name and select Type. This should then list the types of drives ie Local Disk, CD Drive etc.
Does this show HDD (C:) as the only Local Disk ? and what size is it?
 
Treesize - it'll prob be a load of your images somewhere or the OS&Program Files directories.
 
It's probably getting eaten by System Restore points.

Select Properties on Drive C.

Disk Cleanup

Cleanup System Files

More Options

Cleanup Sytem Restore & Shadow


You can get LOADS of space back


*Obviously make sure you're happy with the current PC setup first ;)
 
Yes ... do search of the disk for "*.jpg*" and delete them all... you will get loads of space...!


NB: Legal disclaimer...the above is a fatuous and silly request and is of course a joke,.... :bonk:
 
Yes ... do search of the disk for "*.jpg*" and delete them all... you will get loads of space...!

:lol:

NB: Legal disclaimer...the above is a fatuous and silly request and is of course a joke,.... :bonk:


Ta for all the suggestions! [even the humerous ones!]

Dunc
 
Ok, done that! Only one local drive 'C'. total 138gb free 58.7.

Cheers,

Dunc

If your disk is 138 and you have nearly 59 free you have used 79.
You probably have a hidden partition as others have said, this will be about 10 GB
Vista takes about 10 GB
System Restore uses up to 15% of Disk space so that will be about 20 GB - this starts of smaller but increases with the number of restore point until it reaches 15%, it then deletes the older files.
Your pictures are 9 GB
Your recycle bin could use 10% of Disk space or 10 GB - you can change the size if you Rt click on the Recycle bin and select properties.

So that means that you have used 20 GB for programs, temp files etc etc.

Download CCleaner and use that to clean out all the rubbish, make sure that the recycle bin is deselected unless you want to empty it.
 
Downloaded Treesize which was very useful. Nothing discovered down the back of the sofa.

Rough breakdown.

Piccys 18gb [dont ask where I got 9GB from!]
odds n sods 4gb
Windows 19gb
Prog files 12gb
Other 8Gb

Very surprising that windows and prog files use so much!

Dunc
 
well there we go...
 
There are a couple of issues when looking at the size of the hard drive, first to consider is that the drive size may well be 250Gb but you won't have that physical capacity. The reason is explained below.

Determining drive capacity can be confusing at times because of the different measurement standards that are often used. When dealing with Windows and Mac based systems, you will commonly see both decimal measurements and binary measurements of a drive's capacity. In either case, a drive's capacity is measured by using the total number of bytes available on the drive. As long as the drive displays the correct number of bytes (approximate), you are getting the drive's full capacity.

Decimal vs. Binary:
For simplicity and consistency, hard drive manufacturers define a megabyte as 1,000,000 bytes and a gigabyte as 1,000,000,000 bytes. This is a decimal (base 10) measurement and is the industry standard. However, certain system BIOSs, FDISK and Windows define a megabyte as 1,048,576 bytes and a gigabyte as 1,073,741,824 bytes. Mac systems also use these values. These are binary (base 2) measurements.

To Determine Decimal Capacity:
A decimal capacity is determined by dividing the total number of bytes, by the number of bytes per gigabyte (1,000,000,000 using base 10).

To Determine Binary Capacity:
A binary capacity is determined by dividing the total number of bytes, by the number of bytes per gigabyte (1,073,741,824 using base 2).
This is why different utilities will report different capacities for the same drive. The number of bytes is the same, but a different number of bytes is used to make a megabyte and a gigabyte. This is similar to the difference between 0 degrees Celsius and 32 degrees Fahrenheit. It is the same temperature, but will be reported differently depending on the scale you are using.



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Various Drive Sizes and their Binary and Decimal Capacities



Drive Size in GB Approximate Total Bytes Decimal Capacity
(bytes/1,000,000,000)
Approximate Binary Capacity (bytes/1,073,724,841)
10 GB 10,000,000,000 10 GB 9.31 GB
20 GB 20,000,000,000 20 GB 18.63 GB
30 GB 30,000,000,000 30 GB 27.94 GB
40 GB 40,000,000,000 40 GB 37.25 GB
60 GB 60,000,000,000 60 GB 55.88 GB
80 GB 80,000,000,000 80 GB 74.51 GB
100 GB 100,000,000,000 100 GB 93.13 GB
120 GB 120,000,000,000 120 GB 111.76 GB
160 GB 160,000,000,000 160 GB 149.01 GB
180 GB 180,000,000,000 180 GB 167.64 GB
200 GB 200,000,000,000 200 GB 186.26 GB
250 GB 250,000,000,000 250 GB 232.83 GB

Then you have the other reasons around:

O/S takes space.
Hidden partitions for O/S reinstalls.
Partions of set sizes.
General crap from buildup of use over a period of time.
Swap file sizes.

Things like that.

Hope the post adds a bit more to the mix so that if you format and you don't get 100% size back you can see why.

All the best.
Andy
 
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I noticed the other day that all my pictures seem to be duplicated. I only noticed because I was moving some stuff to photobucket. I noticed that in windows there were photos that I had deleted out of photoshop.....

Dunc
 
Dunc, Windows on a PC or Laptop is a bit like your new car ! not empty but kitted out for you to be comfortable in the car is installed with seats and carpets and steering wheel and brakes and other exciting bits and pieces like a radio and or CD player eh ?

Your system creates a backup copy so your 9Gb is right but doubled !

WANT more space ? Go back to Win XP !

WANT FEW CRASHES ? Go back to Win XP !

Vista is darned OFFAL !
 
You may have more than one partition or incorrectly installed your OS. Also most if not all hard drives lose around 10% of their maximum capacity when leaving the store. It is the data in the hard drive that makes it work how it does but never heard of anyone losing 50%+
 
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