So what is a forum for?

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It's difficult to answer all the accusations that were levelled against lifestyle because what I have done is ask a straightforward question and put it out to the forum for consideration. What is wrong with that? Must everything one does be looked at with suspicion and the conclusion that everyone who uses a forum is doing so just to advertise themselves and their businesses?

There's always an ulterior motive in exposing your ideas or thoughts but after all, this forum is for photographers - and my question concerns photographers' lifestyle, therefore it would seem the most appropriate place to ask it.

I do realise that everything is becoming restrictive and that the only people who are allowed to have free and open discussion are those attending university. Surely, this forum could, at some time, consider itself a "university for photographers" who have serious questions to ask.

Also, it's interesting to note that I included on my website the Frans Lanting slideshow programme "Journey through Time" to demonstrate the third type of photographers' standard of work but nobody commented on it - or said they'd even viewed it. Please do have a look at it - it's absolutely mind-blowing!
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Henry,

You deserve the response you got. You are claiming to be an elite photographer, who has nothing to do with amatuer togs. That will include thousands of us who talk on this very forum!!!

Also, your site does not backup your claim of mastering photography, so I think to protect people who might have spent money on your business, you were given a very strong and negative reaction.

I saw the link to the web site you mention, and his work does look fantastic. His work is not the focus of your site though, your business is.

I recommend you get a new web designer, get a new site and stop taking the **** out of people who are trying their hardest to learn the ropes and enjoy a great hobby.

I met a guy last year who said I should sell my car as I would never be able to drive it the way intended. I politely told him to STFU, I enjoy my car, I enjoy the way I drive it, and whilst I may not be the stig, I have a good time trying :) I think you and him come from the same cabbage patch.

Gary.
 
Oh and to answer the title of this thread. Others will have different ideas, but for me, this forum is for like minded individuals to share a great hobby, offer hints and tips if they can, and take great benefit from the hints and tips on offer. It's a great way to get feedback on your shots, and learn what constitues a good shot, both technically and on other personal levels. Probably the frendliest forum I have ever been on, which makes the reaction to your first post even more important for you to think about.

Gary.
 
i am looking at your sigt, but all the links i clicked for your business take you to other sites to buy? am i missing something? if i was looking at a photography course, i would certainly expect a slightly cleaner site with examples of what is achieved from the courses.

these forums are about the people, whether you are a overweight/underweight, suffer poor health/healthy, amateur/pro. it is about the people and sharing what you do. i also think it is far better for learning than any course i have done. and am remarkably surprised that so many people with so much ability lend there time to help the lowly amateurs like me. I wish you all the luck with your business, but i will be staying a "broke, self critical amateur photographer" who will ohpefully earn a little from what i shoot.
 
I get the feeling you have just been through this Personal Development course thet you are advocating on your website and are trying to put what you learned into practice.

Your site as Gary says is very poorly designed and does you no favours at all, the only work you show on there is not your own, I'm not sure what the Ansell Adams Trust would have to say about you using his image and name to promote your business they are notoriously litigious in defence of their copyright.

I agree fully with Garys second post in answer to your question.

btw, to promote a business here you need to register as a trader.
 
Your thread was closed due to the direction it was going, not because of the question. If this one becomes a shooting gallery it will go the same way.

What I will say though is that you've made 7 posts, 5 of them have a self promotional slant (including this one). I still can't make my mind up if you're just using this place to spam your interests. If you put more into the forum you'd get a lot more out of it.

Now, to get onto your question, a forum is a vehicle allowing like minded individuals to meet and share ideas and experiences on any particular topic they enjoy. This one happens to focus on photography and serves all levels from the expert to the beginner, professional to amateur and everything in between.

This forum is not restrictive. You can discuss whatever it is you want provided it complies with the rules and there are enough people who want to discuss it with you.
 
EdinburghGary said:
Henry,

You deserve the response you got. You are claiming to be an elite photographer, who has nothing to do with amatuer togs. That will include thousands of us who talk on this very forum!!!

Also, your site does not backup your claim of mastering photography, so I think to protect people who might have spent money on your business, you were given a very strong and negative reaction.

I saw the link to the web site you mention, and his work does look fantastic. His work is not the focus of your site though, your business is.

I recommend you get a new web designer, get a new site and stop taking the **** out of people who are trying their hardest to learn the ropes and enjoy a great hobby.

I met a guy last year who said I should sell my car as I would never be able to drive it the way intended. I politely told him to STFU, I enjoy my car, I enjoy the way I drive it, and whilst I may not be the stig, I have a good time trying :) I think you and him come from the same cabbage patch.

Gary.
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well said :clap::clap::clap:
 
Henry,
My apologies in advance if you find my reply to your post rather cold,
I tried to search for some of your work as a 'master photographer' but found only one picture, that in my opinion does not resemble a master photographers output in anyway shape or form.
Is this correct?, have I mis-read the title you have given yourself?
I ask this because, even photographers who make photographs for a hobby and out of pure passion with no intent to make a living out of photography will have a personal web site or at least a flickr account to display their work, not everyone mind, but you'll find that most do.

I seriously advise that if you wish to be taken seriously you start with crediting people with having more sense and also provide some stimulae to back up your title.

Henry7 said:
Must everything one does be looked at with suspicion and the conclusion that everyone who uses a forum is doing so just to advertise themselves and their businesses?
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Your quite incorrect, it's only the manner in which you have portrayed yourself that arouses the reaction you have received and quite deservedly so.

Henry7 said:
There's always an ulterior motive in exposing your ideas or thoughts but after all, this forum is for photographers - and my question concerns photographers' lifestyle, therefore it would seem the most appropriate place to ask it.
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This opening part of this statement is a perfect example illustrating my above point.

Henry7 said:
I do realise that everything is becoming restrictive and that the only people who are allowed to have free and open discussion are those attending university. Surely, this forum could, at some time, consider itself a "university for photographers" who have serious questions to ask.
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This statement, in my opinion, is ridiculous. Please explain how you have arrived at the assumption that students attending university are the only ones involved in free and open discussion.

In addition:
This forum IS a source of education for all who take part. Your website however embodies many aspects that are not associated with quality education at all, the immediate opposite infact.

Henry7 said:
Also, it's interesting to note that I included on my website the Frans Lanting slideshow programme "Journey through Time" to demonstrate the third type of photographers' standard of work but nobody commented on it - or said they'd even viewed it. Please do have a look at it - it's absolutely mind-blowing!
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I personally viewed the gallery, I'm at a loss at why you think this is relevant to the issue, it just seems like an attempt to change the subject and distract from your behaviour.

I've pretty much made up my mind as others here have already, your motives are unsound and your attempts at whatever your trying to do have failed.
 
I really think I must be missing the point here. I looked on your website and it seems you have a photographic business to plug and you came on here to do that. Your opening statment makes no sense at all and I am at a loss to understand what it is you are trying to do other than advertise.
 
at the risk of hitting a man when he's down.....

:agree: i couldn't have put it better myself duckydoodle
 
Perhaps Henry7 is actually a disgruntled customer of '7dayphotobargains', and is trying to give 'Henry and Touchen' a bad name? :shrug::shrug:

:thumbs:
 
To answer the title - my view on a forum is that it is a place to dicuss with like minded people a certain topic. Each one is a community and to participate you join that community, just like all communities each have their own culture of both written and unwritten rules. This one is about photography and I agree with the others that it is one of the friendliest forums that I particiapte in, mainly down to the relaxed attitude of the mods and the way everyone will actually answer the same question time and time again.

Henry - other than the title of this post I can't actually spot that you are posting a question it just appears to me that you are complaining about the response you got to your lifestyle post. As I'm sure you know already "the meaning of your communication is the response you get".
 
I think he must be a bit of windup merchant, he's only replied in one of the threads he has started, and his views and comments on his web-site appear to be deliberately offensive to the majority of photographers.
 
Couple of vids on youtube seem to point to Henry being a 'pro', touchen username
 
I think you need to cut your losses Henry :lol: In response to the thread title, I interpreted it as such:

A forum is a place for like minded people to share interests, to help one another out if they need help, but above all to me, is to make new friends and meet new people. Years ago there was this whole taboo about meeting people online, its was very much frowned upon. Now people are embracing it with open arms! I've met some of my very best friends online through other forums I frequent, I even met my other half through a different forum.

This place is amazing to me, if you took the time out to get to know people here, comment on others work, and just absorb the atmosphere, it really does pay off :)
 
:|I have taken a look at your postings Henry and there seems to be a bit of a 'thing' going on here. You have had the portrait challenge and the cave image going on, then you open a new thread to resurrect the one that was closed yesterday. Is it any wonder people are suspicious?
 
Steep said:
I think Henry is a bit of a forum spammer :)

http://www.phototopix.co.uk/site-chat-help/5549-lifestyle-photographers.html
http://www.photoanswers.co.uk/Commu...Categories/Topic/?topic-id=32997&start-page=0
http://www.photoanswers.co.uk/Commu...Categories/Topic/?topic-id=64296&start-page=0
http://photography-forum.org/showthread.php?t=19473 (lolol @ this one)
http://photography-forum.org/showthread.php?t=16407
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Oh dear :eek:

Everyone, even on other sites, seems to take offence at Henry's posts, and he's even been Banned too (thanks Steep, are you a part-time PI?)

30 years to get to be a Master Tog, no photos and no people skills at all to show for it ???

I'd like to say pathetic, but 'sad' seems more appropriate

DD
 
here was me giving you the benefit of the doubt :bang:
 
Good forums become communities for like minded individuals. Unfortunately I don't think Henry is like minded enough for TP....

Betty said:
I even met my other half through a different forum.
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Betty, I daren't ask what type of forum that may have been, please don't say, I can savour the thoughts :lol:

Steve
 
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