So I shot my first wedding.....

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I thought I'd share my experiences for the benefit of anyone who has been contemplating shooting a wedding - I apologise in advance as this is going to be long and rambing.........

About a year ago my nephew asked me to photograph his wedding. I duly explained the situation that weddings were uncharted territory and was he absolutely sure, he was, so I agreed.

The wedding took place this weekend (Friday) and although I won't be posting any pictures yet (the first viewing is for the Bride and Groom who are currently in Mexico, where it is sunny) I thought I would share my thoughts and experiences.

As the initial conversation took place around 12 months ago, we agreed that we would not talk in detail until early 2012. I took the opportunity to get through some books (I'll pass the titles on in a later post), read some websites, look at lots of wedding photographs and extensively read the TP business section - I learned a lot from the regular wedding contributors there (thanks guys, not a single word posted went unheeded!). While I contemplated second shooting, this proved to be a non viable option

We had an initial consultation in January, discussing the venue and their initial thoughts, we also booked an engagement shoot to produce an image for their invitations and give them some camera practice.

I took the details of the venue (I was familar with it anyway) and arranged a meeting with their coordinator and a visit to site. On the visit I made a bunch of notes and drawings, making note of where the best backdrops were and the broad direction of the sun.

A further meeting took place about a month before the event to cover the final details

I also undertook a kit review. The final kit I used on the day was:

5D MkII
5D
50D (Backup - never left bag)
24-105 F4L
70-200 F4L
50mm F1.4
50mm Compact Macro (used primarily for Jewelry and Ring Shots)
2 x EX 430 MkII Speedlights
Stofen Diffuser
Radio Triggers (not required)
Circ Polariser
8 Batteries (plus chargers)
8 x 8Gb Cards
Hard Drive
Collapsable Reflector/Diffuser
6 x 4 packs of Duracell Batteries

I organised public liability insurance through Axa - about a week before the event. I shopped around, but all seemed pretty much of a muchness.

So the day came - the wedding was being held at a country pub/wedding venue. The forecast was for a dryish morning with heavy rain starting around 1pm - just in time for the ceremony. As it happened it was raining when I arrived on site at 9am and continued to do so for the whole morning.

I started with some setup shots of the venue and the Marquee being prepared, then started shooting the bridal party preparations.

Due to the proximity of the venue to the groom's home address I left after a couple of hours to grab some shots of the groom and groomsmen getting prepared (and larking around). After which I returned to the venue to catch the grooms arrival and then headed back to bridal party for buttoning in shots.

When the celebrant arrived I had a conversation with her to clarify what I could and could not shoot - she was wonderfully helpful.

Then to the ceremony - this was now being held indoors (in a barn styled building). Due to the nature of the building - bounce flash was a non stater as the it had a high pitched roof and red brick walls. So it was ISO4000 all the way, with some direct flash when appropriate. As the ceremony progressed the weather changed again - the sun came out increasing ambient light, allowing me to back down the ISO. I took the opportunity of lulls in the ceremony to descreetly change position. I was shooting from either side of the celebrant, kneeling or standing.

The ceremony concluded and we moved outside into bright sunshine, so back to plan A. We had already prearranged the list of group shots so we got through these relatively quickly. There was the constant threat of the weather changing which brought added urgency to the proceedings.

There was a lull between group shots and the wedding breakfast - so I took this time for a quick gear check, a review of some images and a backup of the 4 cards I had used to that point. It was also a great time to shoot off some candids.

Onto the wedding breakfast - concentrated on shooting candids and then onto the speeches - I found these some of the hardest images to capture as I was often shooting around people or between heads/tables. 70-200 got a lot more use than I thought.

Post reception we had another lull, before the guests stared arriving for the reception, again more candids. Final formal shots of the day was the first dance and then final candids of people dancing.

At 11pm my day official ended - 16 hours of straight work, full memory cards and very sore feet.

Conclusions (purely my opinion based on the day)

Candids and bridal prep shots are the easiest to get.
The most pressure comes in the ceremony, but ultimatly as long as the settings were correct, the rest was just composition.
Formal Groups - easiest part of the day photographically, requires the most people and organisational skill
Speeches - found these tough - but not overtly difficult - moving around is the key to getting a nice variety of shots. Reaction of guests is as important as shooting the speaker.
Reception - found this hard - dragging the shutter is essential to capturing atmosphere, however in my case this was complicted by working in a well lit (by sunlight) marquee.

Equipment

I could not fault the 5D MkII - ISO performance is spectacular, as is the colour rendition.
EX 430 performed really well, but I think the power of the EX580 would have helped - especially for fill flash in the strong sun
Stofen Diffuser - not a lot of good - seemed to kill the flash too much, preffered standard bounce.
F4 Lenses - these were fine for indoor and outdoor use (used with the 5D MkII). BUT if i were to do it again I would go for the 24-70 f2.8 and 70-200 equivalent, as much for shallower DOF as extra stop.

My Performance

I am pleased with the images produced, as are the couple (they have seen around 10 shot I emailed post event). I did make some errors (a flag pole was my constant nemisis when composing the group shots!!) and there are some things I would do differently next time. As said at the start some examples will be up at a future date. Setting checks should be second nature - especially before running off a batch of shots.

I am least pleased with cake cutting shots - I was caught out by the position of the cake next to a wall, I got an OK angle, but not the best.

It was exhausting - don't underestimate how much physical and mental strain this type of work is. If you are of the opinion that wedding photography is an easy way to earn, it's really not. There is pressure for crucial shots, time deadlines, difficult people and constant changes to cope with.

That said it is immensly satisfying - especially when you get a text at 3am that says "OMG You made me look sooooo beautiful, thank you so much!!"

I learned a lot during this experience, I still have a hell of a lot to learn. Would I do another wedding - yes, but subject to me feeling confident enough to do it.

Advice to others - read the wedding posts on here and understand the the advice given - take on board the stuff that is relevant and bear in mind the stuff you think is not. Listen to what pros say - they have experience to draw on and offer sensible advice. Read all books, websites and look at what other people are doing.

I hope this proves to be of some interest images will be added in due course!
 
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Excellent read Paul. Well done, you seemed to have coped very well. Must be a great feeling when the bride is so pleased.

Looking forward to seeing some of your images.
 
Well put together and I'm sure a very helpful read for any future wedding photographers. :thumbs:

Nice to read a wedding thread from a newbie who has done his homework and it looks like it's paid off. Well done.

Pictures please...;)
 
Thanks guys - I must say I am looking forward to posting some shots as feedback is going to prove very useful.
 
Post the engagement pics :-)

This forum has helped me massively with my wedding photography and it's well worth the read.

Totally agree that the "getting ready" and candids are the easiest. Actually love the getting ready pics as it gives me the opportunity to get to know the bridesmaids and get them on-side so they can help out with rounding people up for group shots etc :-)

Also pays to take 5 mins to teach them how to pose like you should have shown the bride previously. Get the bride to demo how to stand (and even how not to!)

Just something I do anyhow but I love the interaction :-)

Dean
 
Good post Paul - and shows the sort of preparation that should go into a first wedding.

Look forward to seeing some images. :)
 
Great post Paul - a real encouragement for any other aspiring wedding photographers. Really well balanced and you obviously took on board lots of advice and certainly appear to have nailed it.

Really well done - only other posters comment I don't totally agree with is Dean talking about teaching people how to pose. It can make people so uncomfortable, look strained and make the very self-conscious.

Look forward to seeing some of the images.

It's great when a new wedding tog thread doesn't end in nastiness or tears:)
 
Thanks Jim I thought it would be useful to document the process I went through to illustate that wedding photography is much more than rocking up with a camera and taking pictures - my view is that photography is about hard work - the more effort you put in, the better your results will be.

Lynn - I was probably guilty of over preparation (so while I left the Zombie repellent at home, I did throw an inverter in the boot in case of any charging issues at the venue!)

Dean - Absolutely agree; I was lucky in that I new my couple were quite clued up on posing - but five minuites of practice time is an excellent idea - I found myself in front of the lens in one shot (one of the groomsmen did the honours) and I have to say it's quite a daunting feeling.

Images will be ready in a couple of weeks, once the guys return with stories of a mythical object called "The Sun" not seen in england for many years.....
 
As said Dave - I'm not posting any pics until the couple have seen them. They will come - I'm desparate for critique on them too!

EDIT: Also only around 1/2 through initial processing. Already culled those that need culling, rating and adding some basic processing to remainder, prior to getting the final selection ready. I have around 10 that are approved - but they're more random selections - I'd rather post shots that come from each part of the day and relate together. And selfishly I've not really got to my faves yet!
 
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Awesome reading and very educational.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Thanks Paul. I'm in a very similar situation, having agreed to shoot my sister-in-law's wedding at the end of the month, and am going through much the same prep. Good to hear I'm not necessarily on a path to total failure.
 
Excellent post Paul.

I shot my first wedding on 3rd June (Jubilee weekend of all times) and my prep and experience of events pretty much mirror yours. Like you say it's extremely hard work (10 am till 9pm for me) and energy sapping.

The end result was worth it though as the B & G are really pleased. I didn't charge as I agreed to do it for the experience although they did give me a lttle something.

Worth the effort when you see their faces !!!

Pete
 
Thanks all - I'm pleased to see that my experience is similar to others.
 
Wonderful post! I will be shooting my first solo wedding (my niece's) this weekend myself. I have served as a second shooter for several weddings, so I feel prepared, but still a bit nervous that the whole thing rests on my shoulders this time. I have done quite a lot of research as well, and feel more confident in posing. Posing is the main area that I have felt for quite some time where I needed the most work.

I must agree with your description of the mental and physical strain. I literally am sore for 2-3 days after each wedding I have assisted with. It is really tough work!

Thank you for the details of your experience!
 
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Hello all, my first post...

Great reading Paul.

Wish I had seen it before my first wedding shoot.
Very similar experience with my first solo wedding and kit. 5D mkII, with 24-105 f4 and 50mm f1.8 with speedlight 550ex. had a 70-300mm on my back up body but didn't need it as the venue was very small.

I'm quite happy with the results and I hope the couple is too. They have seen about 10 previews now and they liked them so that's great.

Had a bit of sun in the morning when i was taking photos of the girls getting ready but after that it was pouring down quite heavy all day.
Unfortunately that meant all the formal shots had to be taken inside.
Didn't get as much variety on the backdrops and the poses as I was hoping.
Can't change the weather and it's good to be prepared to different situations.

It's very tiring day and there is definitely lot to learn.
I was nervous before but fairly confident about the camera settings, composing all the shots and getting the all important moments.
What i was mostly worried was use of the flash, as I haven't had that much experience with it.

As I've been going through the photos and thinking back the day, i been trying to think what i could have done better.
What i think I was most struggling with was keeping the ISO down.
For the formal shots I had to crank it up to 1600 at times, with F4 and only getting about 1/60 shutter speed. that's with flash. Does that sound about right? Or am I doing something wrong?
Like I said it was raining and fairly gloomy day, but place had big windows still and decent lighting.
I was thinking that I could get lot more light from the flash to keep the ISO down and get quicker shutter speed. but like I said i'm not that experienced with the use of flash.
I couldn't change to 50mm lens either cause there was not enough space to get far enough to fit the bigger groups.

Anyway thanks guys for all the previous post, it's been much help and much appreciated.
 
Very informative and a very good idea for documenting the prcoess! Glad that both parties are happy with results which are the most important IMO.
 
I would love to see Paul's photos too.
Unfortunately can't put mine online as the couple have asked me not to.
 
Superb post Paul...very much echoes my first experience.

Thanks for that..I'm sure there are many reading who will find that useful.

Janet
 
Really helpful insight, thanks will take it all on board when I do my first 'as a friend with a camera' wedding in November :)

L
 
Thamks all - yes I will put some images up - just have to upload soime to my webspace - will try and do that today (been massively busy and forgot this post)
 
Okay - just had time to do this before the f1 started.

Here are a small selection from throughout the day - I selected these ones initially randomly, from my personal favourites. I've not selected those which I feel are more personal to the couple (the complication of shooting a family wedding).

Happy for critique, but pleae bear in mind 1) First Wedding 2) I normally shoot racing cars!

Naturally I've self critiqued the whole set to death (400 finished shots) - my main issues so far have been a slightly snapshot feel (partly because I have see it shoot approach to many things, but also due the couple not wanting to get overly creative - bride had real problems with her shoes and was not happy walking anywhere). I have also been playing around with some of these too, so some are my copies rather than those that have been given to the couple

1) Standard Cuff link shot - This section of the day was the most pressured as I had to leave the venue, grab these shots and then head back for arrival and buttoning in. It was only a short drive, but an added complication.

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2) Pre wedding nerve settling
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3) Reflected Bride - I would have liked to shot this from further back, but rooms at the inn were on the small side.
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4) Groom waiting - the thinking behind this was to show the space on the bridal side. I think this could have benefited from a shallower DOF to cope with the light in the doorway
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5) I was shooting the bride on this one, when I noticed expression on here grandfathers face and swapped focal point. I cannot work out if this would have been a different (Better??) with shallower or Deeper DOF!
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continued........
 
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6) I was at a loose end while the register was being signed officially, so I looked toward the family. I liked the reactions in this one, if not the most technical shot
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7) Standard Register shot
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8) This is an experimental processing treatment - the couple have the full colour one and I used a downloaded preset on this one - still unsure on the outcome, I need to look at it 1000 times more.
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9) This is standard style shot for the venue (i'm really not original!). The shadow was problematic here and I was too far back for flash to dent it (sun was strong and overhead). If I were to do it again an assistant with a reflector would be ideal.
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10) This made me smile as it sums up the couple - as soon as you point a camera at them, they would react in a comic manner, sometimes this could make photography tricky!

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11) Prowling the reception this shot just snapped at random - I liked the wording on the book. Again this is one that more appealed to me and my sense of the day.

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Great to see your results Paul, Looks good to me.

Just in the middle of the post processing and few questions come in mind.

I shot in RAW and I use Lightroom for editing.

How much or any sharpening people usually apply?
Don't really know how, what size, what media is the customer going to print the images.
Also is it worth saving as tif's or is jpg ok as there shouldn't be need for more editing?

Thanks in advance, all comments about PP are welcome.
 
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