So I just won a Nikon on eBay...

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This is it.

It's one that someone on here linked to yesterday.

I have 100% positive feedback on there and have paid straightaway, for delivery to my Parents by next Thursday.
Your link seems to go to an order page :(.
 
It tells you what I bought though.
Not for me it doesn’t, maybe it goes to your account as I get an error. Anyway, I think this is it:

 
good choice ,was always a good camera .take time to learn what it can do ..its your first step on the ladder and if any problems ask nicely for help
 
I see you went for a camera with a 35-80mm lens. I'd have avoided that like the plague as there's no wide end but hey-ho, maybe you're not interested in the wider end.

Good luck with it, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from it.

:D
 
As a non-Nikon shooter myself, I have to say that you've got a solid, workhorse, entry level slr from the mid 2000's - iirc its got the AF motor onboard unlike the other low end Nikons from that era, so it'll work with the late film-era lenses as well giving a broader range of glass you can work with... Nicely done, if you're actually serious about learning about photography, thats a proper place to start instead of the point-and-shoots and compacts - which, although they have their place - i've a bunch of them myself and am very happy with them - aren't really suitable for a lot of more "technical aspects" of shooting.

When it arrives, spend some time and get familiar with it's handling - play around in the programmed modes first, as it's a BIG jump up to a SLR from point-and-shoots or cameraphones. People often underestimate the transition, and get really frustrated that their new fancy SLR actually ends up giving them worse pictures than the cameraphone. Difference is, the SLR needs more thought, more input from the user, and (initially at least) a more considered approach in use. Playing around with the camera initially is great to get basic familiarity. Then, when you're feeling a little more ambitious, go shoot something more serious (but also, and this is key, something thats easily repeatable - don't go shoot something that you can't do a reshoot of) - and post it up on this forum, in the appropriate section, tell us what you were trying to achieve, what you feel worked, and what's annoying you, and then sit back and listen with an open mind, and let people help you...

It's amazing how much this place has helped me improve my photography... and I joined here over 12 years ago, with a background of shooting both amateur and professional in the 30+ years of camera use I had before joining here... It's VERY hard to develop "in a bubble" - you'll learn more if you share your work and open your mind to the critique* given.

I hope you'll bear the above in mind as you continue to participate in this forum - as - honestly - you do in your fairly short term of membership here, have developed something of a reputation of snapping at everyone who says something you don't like... Critique, by it's nature is going to be telling you that you've done something wrong / different to what everyone else would have done - and nobody enjoys that experience - BUT - if you DO take it on board, you'll find that there are some incredibly helpful and generous (with their time and efforts, and often in other ways) people on here. In short, you'll reap what you sow - be open minded and you'll get help, assistance, and some great information - be a grumpy litlte arse, and you'll get to go and find another forum eventually.


* oh - and learn the difstinction between critique and just criticism. If someone says "thats crap, bin it" - thats criticsm. If someone says "that's crap, bin it, and go reshoot, this time paying more attention to..." thats critique. Yes folks, critique doesn't need to be "soft and cuddly and PG friendly" it just needs to be helpful, and hopefully accurate (though, sometimes, a "wake up call" can be what's really needed. Listen to the Critique, ignore the Criticism (and, optionally, hit the ignore button on the person as well)- because the people just criticising aren't behaving in the spirit of the forum either.
 
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I see you went for a camera with a 35-80mm lens. I'd have avoided that like the plague as there's no wide end but hey-ho, maybe you're not interested in the wider end.

Good luck with it, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from it.

:D
Well he is unfortunately, most of the initial pics he put on Flickr were taken at 35mm equiv :(.
 
Well he is unfortunately, most of the initial pics he put on Flickr were taken at 35mm equiv :(.

For a long time 50mm was my most used focal length and although I tend to prefer wider now I do still like 50mm lenses so at a pinch I could live with 35mm on APS-C but I do think that 35-80mm is a bit awkward for a zoom lens on APS-C, but that's me. Hopefully Richard will be more than happy.
 
I see you went for a camera with a 35-80mm lens. I'd have avoided that like the plague as there's no wide end but hey-ho, maybe you're not interested in the wider end.

Good luck with it, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from it.

:D
I might be confusing myself, 35-80 is equivalent to 23mm - 52mm isn't it?
 
I might be confusing myself, 35-80 is equivalent to 23mm - 52mm isn't it?

It's an APS-C Nikon camera so you multiply the focal length by x1.5 so a 35-80mm lens looks like 52-120mm in FF terms. That may be very useful if you like the longer end but if going for a do it all lens on APS-C I personally would have gone for a 18-55mm (27-82mm) to include the wider end. Actually I'd prefer a prime but that's just me. If I had that 35-80mm lens I'd be using it almost exclusively at the 35mm end, 52mm in FF terms.
 
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It's an APS-C Nikon camera so you multiply the focal length by x1.5 so a 35-80mm lens looks like 52-120mm in FF terms. That may be very useful if you like the longer end but if going for a do it all lens on APS-C I personally would have gone for a 18-55mm (27-82mm) to include the wider end. Actually I'd prefer a prime but that's just me. If I had that 35-80mm lens I'd be using it almost exclusively at the 35mm end, 52mm in FF terms.
Oh yeah I went the wrong way.
 
A 23-52mm would be lovely but maybe it'd cost a bit. I sometimes go out with a 24 and a 50, that makes a nice combo imo,
 
Well he is unfortunately, most of the initial pics he put on Flickr were taken at 35mm equiv :(.

the 35-80 is most probably a kit lens from the late film era which sell for peanuts... unfortunately the standard digital "kit" lens of the D50's era - 18-55 f3.5-5.6 sells for probably as much as the camera and old lens, and d50's fitted with the more normal digital kit lens are going for double the price the OP's paid. In all honesty, theres very little "penalty" for getting the one he has done, learn with it, and then start thinking about it's shortcomings a few months into the learning process - by which time, he may have scraped together another £50 or so.
 
the 35-80 is most probably a kit lens from the late film era which sell for peanuts... unfortunately the standard digital "kit" lens of the D50's era - 18-55 f3.5-5.6 sells for probably as much as the camera and old lens, and d50's fitted with the more normal digital kit lens are going for double the price the OP's paid. In all honesty, theres very little "penalty" for getting the one he has done, learn with it, and then start thinking about it's shortcomings a few months into the learning process - by which time, he may have scraped together another £50 or so.

Yup.

I'd see this as a get you up and taking pictures combo but some could see the 35-80mm as ideal as you get the extra reach. We don't all think the same :D
 
I'd see this as a get you up and taking pictures combo but some could see the 35-80mm as ideal as you get the extra reach. We don't all think the same :D
well, for the first ooh...7 years I think, I had a 50mm lens and that was it - on film - the standard of the time. Was only in my early 20's I decided to treat myself to a second "really wide" 28mm - mainly as I was in the alps at the time and needed something wider than 50mm to take in some of the Vista's.... Honestly, I do think that this was actually a really good way to get into more serious photography on what is, after all, a minimal budget, and , I'm looking forward to the OP's further participation on the forum going forward.
 
the 35-80 is most probably a kit lens from the late film era which sell for peanuts... unfortunately the standard digital "kit" lens of the D50's era - 18-55 f3.5-5.6 sells for probably as much as the camera and old lens, and d50's fitted with the more normal digital kit lens are going for double the price the OP's paid. In all honesty, theres very little "penalty" for getting the one he has done, learn with it, and then start thinking about it's shortcomings a few months into the learning process - by which time, he may have scraped together another £50 or so.
I was thinking the same. The cheapest 18-55 I can see on ebay at the moment is £45, and someone is trying to shift a broken one for more than that.

I had the D70, which I think has the same sensor. 6MP is fine to start out - still more than double the pixels of the screen I am viewing this on. You have to be careful about blowing the highlights, so err on the side of underexposure, and the noise starts to come up beyond 400 ISO, but otherwise it's OK. The grips can get sticky on Nikons of this era, but you can scrub them with isopropanol to fix this. Chargers seem to start at under £10, though be cautious with off-brand or potentially fake 'Nikon' chargers from some ebay sellers - electrical safety is not always the highest priority for these no-name companies. You can still find 2GB SD cards, though they are overpriced for the capacity they have. As above, larger cards (or anything labelled SDHC or SDXC) won't work.
 
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well, for the first ooh...7 years I think, I had a 50mm lens and that was it - on film - the standard of the time. Was only in my early 20's I decided to treat myself to a second "really wide" 28mm - mainly as I was in the alps at the time and needed something wider than 50mm to take in some of the Vista's.... Honestly, I do think that this was actually a really good way to get into more serious photography on what is, after all, a minimal budget, and , I'm looking forward to the OP's further participation on the forum going forward.

With film, I still shoot 50mm & 28mm with the very recent addition of 135mm - which I'm not even sure I've used properly on the SLR yet.......? I did try a test image as I bought it cheap & had to fix the aperture function.
 
I officially give up! :banghead:

You guys tell me to buy a better camera, I did, last night, and you're still complaining about my camera choices? :banghead:
 
I officially give up! :banghead:

You guys tell me to buy a better camera, I did, last night, and you're still complaining about my camera choices? :banghead:
Welcome to TP! You ain’t heard nuthin‘ yet! Wait till the Canon guys find you’ve bought a Nikon. :LOL:
 
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I officially give up! :banghead:

You guys tell me to buy a better camera, I did, last night, and you're still complaining about my camera choices? :banghead:

I don't think anyone's complaining Richard. Think of it more as you bought a blue shirt and me or someone else says we'd have bought a red one.

Have fun with the new kit and don't forget to post pictures and chat about how you're getting on! :D
 
I officially give up! :banghead:

You guys tell me to buy a better camera, I did, last night, and you're still complaining about my camera choices? :banghead:

REALLY?

I see at least 6 people saying well done on the choice of camera, 3 more giving you sensible pointers like what memory cards it will work with, and reminding you that you'll need a few bits like a battery charger, and a couple of people discussing the lens that came with it, the general consensus being that for the money you've spent, the lens is fine and that anything else would have required spending 3 figures minimum.

PLEASE, PLEASE STOP BEING SO BLOODY DEFENSIVE AND PLAYING THE VICTIM ALL THE TIME.

We are camera enthusiasts, some of us have been into photography for nearly half a century, many others remember your camera fondly as being the first one they may have had... So, YES we're going to have some negatives amongst the positives. If it was possible to buy a perfect camera for under £50 beer tokens, we'd all have one. BUT we're not slagging your choice - As I've said before in an earlier post, I think you've made a cracking choice... Its just that when you've got a 15 year old camera for around the price of a third party battery for most of the modern DLSRs or Mirrorless Cameras that the more affluent geeks on here are using, there's probably going to be a little bit of difference in the perception of usability...
 
I officially give up! :banghead:

You guys tell me to buy a better camera, I did, last night, and you're still complaining about my camera choices? :banghead:

Good.

I hope it works out for you but the lens is a bit disappointing, a 18-50mm would IMO be a better bet as you're losing the wide end with that 35-80mm.


From your other thread. You were told that the lens that came with the camera you've bought wasn't the best choice but it seems that you ignored that advice.

Either the 18-55 or 18-70 kit Nikkors would be a better choice than the 35-50 Sigma. IMO.
 
Just enjoy the purchase and have fun. Everyone on the interweb has an opinion and what works for one may not work for the other. I tend to walk around with three focal ranges 35, 50 and 85 mm (or equivalent on my M50 mkii). You'll soon establish what you need and can then save or purchase a lens / vintage lens (love these) that fits the bill.
 
I officially give up! :banghead:

You guys tell me to buy a better camera, I did, last night, and you're still complaining about my camera choices? :banghead:
The way I see it is, you keep running when you should be walking.

A better start in my opinion would be to get a list of what you want and need from a camera. Then you could decide what to purchase.

You have got a decent camera now that will allow you to learn, and it being a system camera you can put what ever lens you need into it.
Personally I don't like anything much longer than 50mm I shoot mostly at 35 or less.

You might be different I don't know. Either way stop taking what people say as fact and now as guidance you don't have to instantly jump to a decision.
Anytime I've purchased a camera it has taken many weeks of research to decide what to get.
 
It will be fine to get going, you might need a second battery I would expect the one with it is past its best and a spare is worth having.
You will probably need to get the charger but don't get anything else until it comes and checks out OK.
I would not be surprised if the seller knows nothing about it so won't have looked at every detail of operation before selling.

Most likely a wider lens will be next thing to look for.
There is always something you might add to photo kit.
 
Look rich , you made a big deal of boasting about the crap camera choices you made , we have all advised to get a DSLR which it now seems you have , it’s not going to be the best thing since sliced bread but it’s a step in the right direction . .. most of us will by now have realised that you are partially disabled ,which does come across in some of your posts , but do yourself a favour when you make a tongue in cheek post like the above one use more smilies so admin know your jesting as it is all to easy to be taken the wrong way ..

Once you have your camera take time to learn it , find out what genre suits you best , then you can save up and buy a new lens to suit that style i.e a wide angle lens would be no good for wildlife , and a super telephoto no good for street photography .. also forget any idea of making money from it ,it’s not gonna happen
 
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