So... considering a Fuji X-S10

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Hi - its been an absolute age since I wandered these halls, but I'm getting that itch again, and as I've using the X-T20 but fancied something new to have a play about I looked around at the Fuji stuff and saw the X-S10.

So, I'm wondering has anyone taken that leap - is it worth it - are the improvements there, I'm thinking the IBIS could be a good thing (I used to have an OLY years back and found it useful) and improved AF (sorry, I know Sony is the AF king, or I think it is, but I'm just not drawn to them at all).

Got to keep things light too - I'm not getting younger and dropped the DSLR due to weight... its, not mine, although now maybe both :)
 
It's a very good camera but then you've got to try hard to find a bad one these days. Die-hard Fuji users sometimes have problems getting used to it but anyone coming fresh to the brand will find the control layout more familiar. Read the DPReview at https://www.dpreview.com/products/fujifilm/slrs/fujifilm_xs10/review and you'll see their only real caveat was the AF tracking.

But note that while mirrorless bodies may be lighter than the equivalent DSLR the lenses weigh the same. If you really want light you have to go Micro Four-Thirds.
 
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Even if it was leaps above depending on your shooting style and subject matter you may not necessarily notice the improvement. It is more likely that you will notice that they handle differently as they are different sizes. If you have an itch then it’s up to you. :)
 
Thanks Jonathan, I'll take a look at that.
I used to have m43 a fair ways back, the EM1 and while it was a great camera there was something I didn't like about the images, probably the noise or maybe I pixel peeped too much then, either way it didn't gel.
 
Aye Clint, I suspect you're right - the call of new toys :)
In some ways I hope the itch goes away, back when I really was into photography I changed systems a few times and around £4.5k went through my hands, just a lens to some, but to me a lot of money.
 
If are wanting to keep weight down then its a good option. The Fuji-X system is a nice system, but some lenses are quite heavy, so if you want to keep weight down, select carefully. Fuji AF definitely lags behind the competition in terms of speed, but it has improved and the X-S10 will be faster than the X-T20

I have very mixed feelings about IBIS, and certainly see its benefits with longer focal length lenses, but it only really counts with shorter focal length lenses if your subject is completely still.

The X-S10 is not weather resistant, you would have to look at the X-H1 (s/h) to get a body at an effective price with IBIS and WR, and that body is quite a bit heavier than the X-S10.

In my view the X-S10 and X-H1 are quite a move away from the 'traditional' Fuji X cameras with all their dials, so bear that in mind with the handling. I certainly preferred using teh X-T series over my X-H1
 
I find IBIS fantastic for static subjects, you can slow the shutter speed and use lower ISO`s in poor light.

Im not fussed enough for to always get cameras with it though,

I have an x-t3 now and think its a better camera than the s-10 overall and i can wait for the x-t4 to come down in price on the used market
 
I must admit that initially I was a bit surprised at the change to the PASM dial (for Fuji) but curiosity got the better of me and I bought one from the Fuji Refurb shop.

Andy Mumford did an excellent review:

www.andymumford.com

FUJIFILM X-S10 - A PRACTICAL COMPARISON WITH THE X-T4 & X-T30 — Andy Mumford Photography

I’ve been using the Fuji X-S10 for about a week now. This isn’t an in-depth review of all the cameras details and features or a technical break down image quality or a comparison with other cameras. Instead, it’s an overview of how the X-S10 compares with the X-T4 and X-T30 for shooting landscapes a
www.andymumford.com www.andymumford.com

which highlighted many of the differences in handling twixt the X series dials and size and it is well worth reading.

It is a cracking little camera. IBIS is very effective and its IQ is exactly the same as my X-T3 and X-T4. I prefer the traditional dials, heft and WR of the 3/4 bodies but if you want a smaller, lighter and much cheaper body (than the X-T4) then the X-S10 is very worthy of consideration.

As @Mr Perceptive has rightly said, Fujifilm lenses are not light so whilst the advantage of the X-S10 size/weight is noticeable with the smaller primes, it is (almost) negligible with the heavier primes and zooms. It is decidedly front heavy with the 50-140 and 100-400mm zooms.

But, if IBIS, WR and a selfie screen are not needed, then the very recent price reduction on the X-T3 makes it a very attractive proposition and were I starting from scratch it would be my body of choice between the two.

Whatever you do decide, do have a look at the FujiFilm Refurb shop. Every body and lens I have bought from them has been totally as new and at a considerable price saving.
 
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It looks expensive for what it is but I suppose that's really more the norm in these inflationary and higher end days.

Personally I'd add the extra and get a Sony A7II. It may be older tech now but it's FF and as that's what I grew up with and I'm happy enough with my A7 MK1.
 
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It looks expensive for what it is but I suppose that's really more the norm in these inflationary and higher end days.

Personally I'd add the extra and get a Sony A7II. It may be older tech now but it's FF and as that's what I grew up with and I'm happy enough with my A7 MK1.
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And what should he do with the existing 5 Fuji lenses he has?? - see signature in first post!
 
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And what should he do with the existing 5 Fuji lenses he has?? - see signature in first post!
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Sell them.

Or at least consider it before spending knocking on for £1k on an APS-C camera. That's the thing that caught my eye, he's considering spending nearly £1k on an APS-C camera.

That may be the norm in these higher end days but rightly or not I'd find it questionable or at least worth giving careful thought to as it does IMO look expensive for what it is.

After careful thought, if he still wants spend drop nearly £1k on this to go with his 5 lenses then fair enough but a little extra thought doesn't hurt :D
 
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Always happy to consider alternative options, that said I'd not buy new so closer to the 650-700 mark, I'll look at the Sony again, but from my Nikon/Canon full frame days the one thing I do remember (apart from the lovely images) was the massive backpack.
 
Nope, seems the A7 II even now with its age is expensive, thanks though
 
Patr, I looked at the vid (again it turns out) and as a 100% handheld shooter I can really see the benefit.
Shame in some ways about the look, I always ended up with silver Fujis, but never used the cameras often enough to build a muscle memory, so hopefully the dial layout won't be a problem.
Thanks again everyone for the feedback and advice.
 
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Patr, I looked at the vid (again it turns out) and as a 100% handheld shooter I can really see the benefit.
Shame in some ways about the look, I always ended up with silver Fujis, but never used the cameras often enough to build a muscle memory, so hopefully the dial layout won't be a problem.
Thanks again everyone for the feedback and advice.
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John, looks and colours are such a subjective thing! I know exactly where you are coming from and the little X-S10 is an opinion divider.

My X-T3 is silver and Is lovely but it has a few more battle scars than the black X-T4. If and when you do get an X-S10 you will be delighted with the ‘feel’ of the camera from the fantastic grip to the tactile rubber skin. It is a very well made and solid camera and the size and ergonomics are spot on.

Talking of handheld I bought an Olympus OMD E M1 iii last week and it’s OIS was just phenomenal. Low light performance was a little disappointing but I thought that it would be so much lighter than my Fuji’s. Once I fitted a borrowed Olympus 300mm it was almost into X-T4/100-400 weight territory. Great camera but sadly returned.

Have dabbled with the Sony A7 iii in the past but couldn’t get on with the menu (ditto Olympus) or the viewfinder and just plain prefer the FujiFilm range which ticks the boxes for me.

Just seen your lens list, the 90mm is probably the sharpest lens in my collection and was transformed when I got the X-H1. It didn’t provide the sharpness I thought it would on my X-T1. My shaky old hands didn’t do it the justice it so deserved but bingo, the IBIS of the X-H1 and X-T4 (and now the X-S10) showed what a cracking lens it is.
 
You're so right about the 90mm, its the closest thing I've had to the 135mm on Canon - which was my hands down best ever lens, coupled with the 5D III I used to have - stunning shots.
Well, I've put in an offer on one and my long suffering wife knew it was coming as I'd mentioned it to her more than once :)
 
,,,and its here - I can't decide if I'm getting older and menu are just more numerous, or I mostly ignored them before, on the up side I took a snap and its not too shabby at all.
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