Smart phones how confusing?

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At the end of the day a phone is a phone is a phone...

Can you speak to people on it... job done...

I agree, smart phones are groovy...I have a samsung note - it can be fine, but it does suck juice from the battery... but at the end of the day if you have an all singing all dancing phone, but cannot use it.. then it is a brick..

Dummy? Not at all. I may chuck my toys out though, lol. I need to sleep as going Brummagen tomorrow to take photos of the German market.
I totally agree about phones and don't understand why people feel the need to defend the iPhone so vociferously. Especially when its meant to be about the best camera on a phone, which would be Nokia then.
Ok, let's put this to bed. I'll agree that the iPhone is better than anything else and the iPhone 5 at 500 and something quid is far better value than anything else, and the desire S is a worthless piece of crap. Does this make you happy?
 
What's the intended end use of the snaps? At a guess (possibly well wide of the mark!), it'll be either Facebook, the phone's own screen or a digital frame. Don't need many pixies to give half decent results on any of them! Prints above 6x4" need a few more pixies and a decent lens though.

Another consideration could be the extra light the phone supplies - some have a flash, others a glorified torch. Connectivity? I prefer card transfer to direct connection (having a cat with a love for attacking dangling wires may have something to do with that), although the micro cards are a bit fiddly for my shovels! Keyboard type? Again, personally, I hate touch screens but can cope (see shovels comment above) with the tiny button QWERTY keys on my smartphone. Internet/data costs? More a network/contract issue than phone specific, although some phone systems run their own (?) server system, making internet use cheaper.
 
No idea how a "whats the best camera phone" turned into an apple vs debate. having had an iphone, 3g, 3gs mums got an iphone4 i swapped and went for a desire HD which i broke and got an optimus 3d as a replacement, both £500ish phones, both android ones were very laggy and slow and needed resetting all the time. got rid of those went went back to a 3gs as it just works. now have a 64gb iphone5 and love it, best phone i have ever had. yes there are phones better spec but the iphone works, all synched up to my ipad and macbook so if i edit something on one its automatically done on all devices.

but back on track, Nokia have always made the best camera, the old sonys were good and a lot of the new ones are still good, i think it was sony who made the quickest i.e. take phone out and press camera button no need to unlock it first.
 
oh dear :(

i suggested an Iphone because they are known to have a half decent camera i didn't expect ( maybe i should have ) a my phone is better than your iphone debate

my wife has an iphone 4 and she loves it
she had a htc wildfire android phone for a couple of years before the iphone and the camera in the iphone is way ahead of it
the fact the iphone is not android i don't think she even notices because they do pretty much the same thing

i have had a smartphone of one description or other for the last 9 years or so starting with a large motorola a1000 running symbian and then onto htc's running windows ce and finally onto the android os
what i can tell you about all the smartphones i have owned is the cameras have never been up to much compared with even the cheapest point n shoots and that includes the htc 1x
 
what i can tell you about all the smartphones i have owned is the cameras have never been up to much compared with even the cheapest point n shoots and that includes the htc 1x
You're not wrong. Nokias are the best camera phones.
Just for reference, this is what my Desire S did when I was out with my dog an hour ago. Not brilliant, but it's clear enough to tell what's going on. :)


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IMAG0792 by jamieZRX1200S, on Flickr


IMAG0796 by jamieZRX1200S, on Flickr


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IMAG0802 by jamieZRX1200S, on Flickr


IMAG0808 by jamieZRX1200S, on Flickr
 
Dummy? Not at all. I may chuck my toys out though, lol. I need to sleep as going Brummagen tomorrow to take photos of the German market.
I totally agree about phones and don't understand why people feel the need to defend the iPhone so vociferously. Especially when its meant to be about the best camera on a phone, which would be Nokia then.
Ok, let's put this to bed. I'll agree that the iPhone is better than anything else and the iPhone 5 at 500 and something quid is far better value than anything else, and the desire S is a worthless piece of crap. Does this make you happy?

Ecstatic.. though I have no idea what you are beefing about.. :thinking::thinking:

I hope the germans were accommodating...
 
You're not wrong. Nokias are the best camera phones.
Just for reference, this is what my Desire S did when I was out with my dog an hour ago. Not brilliant, but it's clear enough to tell what's going on. :)


Horizon's a bit off in shot five :)
 
Horizon's a bit off in shot five :)

:D I was stood halfway up a hill with one foot in a rabbit hole. Or do you mean it's crap? Cos I'd agree with you there, most phones are rubbish at distance shots but ok at close up. :D
 
Lumia 800 camera is nothing special, poor in low-light same as every other smartphone.

Only exception is the Lumia 920 which has a stonkingly good camera....it is a bleeding edge handset though and you'll pay for it at the moment. Really raised the bar for smartphone cameras though (optical image stabiliser for starters).
 
Lumia 800 camera is nothing special, poor in low-light same as every other smartphone.

Only exception is the Lumia 920 which has a stonkingly good camera....it is a bleeding edge handset though and you'll pay for it at the moment. Really raised the bar for smartphone cameras though (optical image stabiliser for starters).

Actually Lumia 920 image quality has come in for a lot of criticism and Nokia are about to issue a software update to improve the situation.

Nokia Fixes Software Bug That Caused The Lumia 920 To Take Blurry Photos
 
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Cameras on phones have come a long way, these were taken on my Samsung Galaxy S2 :-

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I've now got a S3 & the Christmas project is making a ND10 filter mount for it :thumbs:
 
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Cameras on phones have come a long way, these were taken on my Samsung Galaxy S2 :-

I've now got a S3 & the Christmas project is making a ND10 filter mount for it :thumbs:

What's the blurred patch on the red squirrel's left hand (if squirrels have hands :thinking: )?
 
What's the blurred patch on the red squirrel's left hand (if squirrels have hands :thinking: )?

Probably me:D

I must admit the squirell was "touched up" a bit to get rid of background crap & the lizard was cropped in to show the level of detail etc

I'll lose them from the thread to avoid confusion :thumbs:
 
a 10 stop filter for a camera phone.... hmmm..
 
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