Slow drivers be warned

"In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right."

Seems to suggest it's okay to me :)

It is we must of posted at the same time.

Undertaking is permitted in congested conditions, when the traffic is the other lanes is moving slower than you in other words.
 
It is we must of posted at the same time.
I posted 12 minutes earlier, because I nipped through on the inside while Ruth blocked you on the outside lane :D
 
The highway code states - Undertaking is permitted in congested conditions when frequent lane changing is not recommended.

Which is what I said.
Undertaking then whipping in front of the vehicle you just passed wouldn't really fall under that would it, given the implied congestion.
 
Which is what I said.
Undertaking then whipping in front of the vehicle you just passed wouldn't really fall under that would it, given the implied congestion.
But I wouldn't need to pull in front of the cars I overtook, as I already said, the inside lane where I would be driving is clear :thumbs:
 
But I wouldn't need to pull in front of the cars I overtook, as I already said, the inside lane where I would be driving is clear (y)

Then you're not simply keeping up with traffic are you....simply being a bit of a......
 
So, if the two outside lanes slow down to 30, while the inside is pretty much clear, I should slow down to 30? I have seen it happen.
 
The roads where I live have been changed to 20mph it's pretty hard to stick to it. One particular road near me is a big road, but it's still only 20mph. Most vehicles just will not slow down, they will still go screaming down the road, and force their way past you, either side of you. I tried doing 27mph on the 20mph stretch, and lots of cars tried to make me go faster. Got a lot of abuse I did, I simply don't want to go faster, as I don't want points or a fine.
 
So arrest the stupid ****ers who think tailgating is an acceptable practice.

Reference was made to the van driver "chugging along" at 60mph, 60 is the maximum speed that vehicle is allowed to drive at and only 10mph less than the maximum for any vehicle. It also says 6 drivers had to brake and then overtake, if they were keeping to the speed limit themselves then it's they who have a situational awareness problem, a 10mph closing speed gives you tons of opportunity to adjust your driving.

Absolutely agree with you there its my pet hate tailgaters
I always try to drive at a decent pace and to the speed limit when safe but still sometimes get a ignorant moron tailgating me
 
The roads where I live have been changed to 20mph it's pretty hard to stick to it. One particular road near me is a big road, but it's still only 20mph. Most vehicles just will not slow down, they will still go screaming down the road, and force their way past you, either side of you. I tried doing 27mph on the 20mph stretch, and lots of cars tried to make me go faster. Got a lot of abuse I did, I simply don't want to go faster, as I don't want points or a fine.
The answer to these "bullies" is to simply go even slower
 
The answer to these "bullies" is to simply go even slower
I did 27mph in a 20mph zone, and I got a good few racing very close behind me. I did drop down to 20mph to get them to back off, plus it could be police in an un-marked car. What you get then, is lots of abuse and risk of a thumping :(
 
The highway code states - Undertaking is permitted in congested conditions when frequent lane changing is not recommended.
And not as some people seem to think, doing both, causing each lane to brake as they cut back and forth, causing even more of a tail back,

Flogging is too good for them ;)
 
Thread title is a bit of a nonsense really. It's about middle lane driving and poor lane dicipline. It's funny how everyone complains about it but know one ever owns up to middle lane hogging.
 
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Thread title is a bit of a nonsense really.
I could stealth edit the title and no one would know, making a nonsense out of your post,:p but hey who cares?
This is TP this is OoF, this is the place for making errors, talking crap and generally having a good time (y)

It's funny how everyone complains about it but know one ever owns up to middle lane hogging.
Maybe because considerate drivers don't do it?

I spend a lot of time on motorways and you don't see that many in reality, its just the odd few that cause the frustration,
being in their own little world.
 
I could stealth edit the title and no one would know, making a nonsense out of your post,:p but hey who cares?
This is TP this is OoF, this is the place for making errors, talking crap and generally having a good time (y)

I have been talking crap to my missus for years, she is long long fed up of the crap I talk about. I have to come on here, and talk crap to you lot on here. When you lot get fed up of me, I will be in trouble then (y)
 
When you lot get fed up of me, I will be in trouble then (y)
Not at all, you just won't be able to post :D

(Jaffa cakes in a plain brown envelope should secure your place for awhile longer :D )
 
Not at all, you just won't be able to post :D

(Jaffa cakes in a plain brown envelope should secure your place for awhile longer :D )

Will Burtons Jaffa cakes do, or have they got to be McVities Jaffa cakes? I'm sure Lyons do them as well :thinking:
 
Why were the other cars tailgating the middle lane hogger anyway?
Surely they'd just move into the outside lane and get past?
 
Thread title is a bit of a nonsense really. It's about middle lane driving and poor lane dicipline. It's funny how everyone complains about it but know one ever owns up to middle lane hogging.
If they weren't slow they wouldn't be hogging the lane. Rather simple concept I would have thought ;)
 
Why were the other cars tailgating the middle lane hogger anyway?
Surely they'd just move into the outside lane and get past?
Perhaps there is already traffic overtaking in that lane. Surely you've seen this happen. You aren't allowed to undertake but some idiot is just stuck in the middle lane. Basically reducing the motorway to a single file road.
 
Perhaps there is already traffic overtaking in that lane. Surely you've seen this happen. You aren't allowed to undertake but some idiot is just stuck in the middle lane. Basically reducing the motorway to a single file road.
I've seen plenty hog the outside lane too.
I misread the report, I thought it said the other lanes were free.
 
:facepalm:

Statistically woman are far safer drivers than men and having driven extensively on European roads I find most drivers there to be far more considerate than we are, well certainly on the motorways anyway.
I've found foreign drivers on British roads to be some of the most inconsiderate.

Coming home from work this evening, I have just had the displeasure of following an end to a bell, travelling at 65 in the right hand lane, whilst 80% of the time there was plenty of room for him to move over let me pass and he could have moved back over again had he wished. Out of frustration, in the end I undertook him, as did the 3 cars behind me as they had now caught up with us and were obviously frustrated and realised he was moving over for no-one.
 
Will Burtons Jaffa cakes do, or have they got to be McVities Jaffa cakes? I'm sure Lyons do them as well :thinking:
Even ASDA's own are quite acceptable :thumbs:
 
id prefer to see us style undertaking made legal - i do it myself sometimes rather than switching across 3 lanes
Let me guess, middle lane hoggers? I love a good wind up by undertaking them.
 
They usually speed up!
or try to pull in on you;)
If the road is clear I'll usually take them to around 100 the legal limit
and leave them for dead just for the hell of it ;)
 
I think everyone should take the theory test and hazard perception test every five years.

I used to think everyone should take a full test every five years, and whilst that might improve standards, it would be impractical to conduct so many extra tests.


Steve.
 
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Generally I leave audi/bmw drivers to punt these muppets out of the way. They tend to not fear sitting inches off someone's rear bumper. I'm too sensible to do that.

But if you leave a gap said BMW drivers undertake and cut in front :mad:
I do a fair bit of motorway driving and have had this happen a few times this week, no I wan't hogging the lane I was moving at the same speed as the traffic in front overtaking slower vehicles.
Last time it happened I knew what the driver intended so I did close the gap, leaving him stuck behind the lorry we were over taking, seems others had the same idea
as he didn't get out for quite a while. The other problem was that our speed was governed by another idiot in front not moving over and on a busy motorway
it not being that easy to move out but I refuse to indertake
 
Hmm I would slow down. If the other two lanes are at 30 and whilst your lane is clear, continuing at 70 would be dangerous. The speed difference would be too big. I would slow down and adjust my speed. The changes of someone pulling out of the middle lane right in front of you are too high.

Ps this was in response to Steve smith who suggested to carry on as you were. Before Gremlin rudely pushed in before me ;) :p
 
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Ps this was in response to Steve smith who suggested to carry on as you were. Before Gremlin rudely pushed in before me ;) :p

Admit it ..........................................you're getting slow in your old age :p
 
I think everyone should take the theory test and hazard perception test every five years.

I used to think everyone should take a full test every five years, and whilst that might improve standards, it would be impractical to conduct so many extra tests.


Steve.

It really wouldn't improve standards.
 
Surely it would if it removed drivers who couldn't pass the test.


Steve.

I don't think so.
Everyone has some bad driving habits, and pretty much all would simply make the adjustments necessary to pass the test and then simply revert to their old style.
And those that failed would just re-take.
 
Always!

How about all cars having a test computer built in? Answer 30 out of 35 questions correctly before it allows you to start the engine!


Steve.
 
Always!

How about all cars having a test computer built in? Answer 30 out of 35 questions correctly before it allows you to start the engine!


Steve.

Ooookaaay!!
Just stay right where you are Steve....the van will be there shortly :lol:
 
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