skin smothing(updated)

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I've been having a play with skin smothing.Will the kind people of TP give your opinion as to if I have done it too much.

Thanks in advance for your time

Before and after photos

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Personally I'd say it's a bit too strong, but it's going to depend on what you and the lady in the pic thinks, if shes happy then it's job done.

Some people like the character in their faces, I'd be annoyed if you smoothed out my face for example (and boy does it need smoothing!) but one of my friends always asked for her 'laughter lines' to be removed in every pic so it's all down to personal taste.
 
Thanks for your time Wayne..
It's the wife and she's never happy when see she me with the camera LOL...
The wife the same about laughter lines just take that one out and that one and then it's the freckles she doesent like.
I will have another go but next time only take out only the lines
 
Like Wayne I personally think it's a little too much but,as he also says, if she's happy that's ultimately all that matters (especially when it's the wife!!)!!
 
Sorry.. looks like plastic... very false.. especially around the mouth.
 
I think it's a bit too much.

However, skin softening is a good skill to have. Have you heard of a program called 'portrait professional' it's about £25 and very simple to use, and you can make very subtle improvements to all aspects of your models face (even change eye colour if wanted).

hope this helps :)
 
If I was going to do something so drastic I would use a technique called frequency separation. but that can be easily over done its a fine line
 
Just Dave said:
For me its removed her character, her face just looks wrong distorted, I prefer the original,
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swanseamale47 said:
When it's the wife when shes happy it's done. ;)
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Pookeyhead said:
Sorry.. looks like plastic... very false.. especially around the mouth.
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HopefulM said:
I think it's a bit too much.

However, skin softening is a good skill to have. Have you heard of a program called 'portrait professional' it's about £25 and very simple to use, and you can make very subtle improvements to all aspects of your models face (even change eye colour if wanted).
hope this helps :)
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts.

I thought about portrait pro but I like to have ago myself first then once I've mastered it then I will use something like portrait pro to speed up the process
 
I remember a thread on her about skin smoothing and mark removal a couple of years ago,

Someone sued a photographer for removing a birthmark on a child's face, the parents were well upset by it
 
Hi Shane,

I have to agree with the "too much" camp.
I think the loss of some of the lines around her mouth in particular is making her smile look artificial and you've lost a lot of definition around her jawline.

What software are you using?
I've had a play with the trial of Portrait Professional, but for close up shots like this I prefer the level of control that you have doing it the slower way in Photoshop.

You've got your edit box ticked, so this is just a very quick Photoshop tinker with it, using masks, cloning and a bit of blur and dodging/burning. A long way from perfect (it was a 10 minute job), but it might give you some sort of idea of what Photoshop can do if that's what you're using.

(Of course, it's just my personal view on how far I'd want to take it in this particular photo - you might want to do more or less.)

 
That looks good to me Sarah. I'm going to have a play with it tomorrow to see what I can come up with.
Software I have LR3 (can't get my head round that) and PS cs6
 
SarahLee said:
Hi Shane,

I have to agree with the "too much" camp.
I think the loss of some of the lines around her mouth in particular is making her smile look artificial and you've lost a lot of definition around her jawline.

What software are you using?
I've had a play with the trial of Portrait Professional, but for close up shots like this I prefer the level of control that you have doing it the slower way in Photoshop.

You've got your edit box ticked, so this is just a very quick Photoshop tinker with it, using masks, cloning and a bit of blur and dodging/burning. A long way from perfect (it was a 10 minute job), but it might give you some sort of idea of what Photoshop can do if that's what you're using.

(Of course, it's just my personal view on how far I'd want to take it in this particular photo - you might want to do more or less.)
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Better but still prefer the original, freckle's/marks are part of us so remove them remove the person for me to be honest, dont forget the person may like them skin smoothing is over rated go for character, for me the smoothing makes her face fater not that it was fat in the first place but it does for me
 
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SarahLee said:
I've had a play with the trial of Portrait Professional, but for close up shots like this I prefer the level of control that you have doing it the slower way in Photoshop.
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I agree.. and that version you did was what I would expect.

Learn some skills, and do it yourself manually.
 
I'm firmly in the camp of not wanting to see airbrushing of portraits wish is a touch hypocritical I know as I'm on record as say that if there is something I don't like in a photo that I'll digitally remove it, I just feel that a photo of a person should remain un-touched it almost stops being the person when you got to extremes removing this, smoothing that or what ever, by all means remove spot or what ever but being honest the first edit has go so far it almost looks like a efit of the original person, at least in Sarah's version the person has retain some of there original features and still looks real :thumbs:
 
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