Silbersalz35 cinefilm

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I am unashamedly a huge fan of the youtube channel Grainydays, and todays video talks about Silbersalz35. The long and short of it, is that it's a 135 packaged cinefilm which you have to get developed in ECN-2 for best results - it's stated that C-41 is very detrimental to the resulting development. As such, they offer the films, development, scanning and digital delivery as part of a single purchase (delivery both ways and return of negs is extra). While I personally am very much a landscape photographer and prefer to shoot LF where ever possible, I have to say that I really like the look this film delivers and am strongly considering getting some to have a mess about with on some projects that I have in mind. The important aspect of this film, is that unlike cinestill 800T, the antihalation layer is not removed (doing so is what makes it C-41 compatible), so it maintains accurate representation of 'point-like' light sources in high contrast scenes, such as urban scenes at night.

I was wondering, has anyone here shot with it? If so, what are your thoughts? Any links to any photos would be awesome too :)
 
I haven't tried the Silbersalz product directly - but it is re-packaged Kodak Vision film which you can buy in bulk. I have bulk rolls of both Vision 50D and Vision 250D (the tungsten versions aren't really my thing).

I haven't developed any 250D yet but have blogged about my experiences in shooting 50D and developing it in ECN2 chemicals - see

https://filmphotography.blog/2020/06/11/first-try-with-cine-film-kodak-vision-50d/
and
https://filmphotography.blog/2020/06/29/more-results-with-kodak-vision-50d/

In order to use my ECN2 chemicals economically, I'm trying to save up the exposed films for a mega developing session. The Silbersalz product has obvious advantages in terms of convenience, traded off against a higher cost compared to bulk-rolling and home-developing.

The cost of my bulk rolls worked out about £2.25 per 36-exposure roll.
 
I have a friend who swears by it for colour since he has trouble getting satisfactory colour scans on his home setup. I've been meaning to try myself but then, y'know, Brexit happened.
 
Im so sorry all, this totally slipped my mind!

FishyFish said:
Quite a few photos on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Silbersalz35

I enjoy GrainyDays a lot too - seen the latest video in my feed but saving it as a treat for the weekend. :)
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Yes indeed, I had a brief look through there and the Silbersalz hashtag on instgram and I have to say, I really do quite like the look it gives.

Kevin Allan said:
I haven't tried the Silbersalz product directly - but it is re-packaged Kodak Vision film which you can buy in bulk. I have bulk rolls of both Vision 50D and Vision 250D (the tungsten versions aren't really my thing).

I haven't developed any 250D yet but have blogged about my experiences in shooting 50D and developing it in ECN2 chemicals - see

https://filmphotography.blog/2020/06/11/first-try-with-cine-film-kodak-vision-50d/
and
https://filmphotography.blog/2020/06/29/more-results-with-kodak-vision-50d/

In order to use my ECN2 chemicals economically, I'm trying to save up the exposed films for a mega developing session. The Silbersalz product has obvious advantages in terms of convenience, traded off against a higher cost compared to bulk-rolling and home-developing.

The cost of my bulk rolls worked out about £2.25 per 36-exposure roll.
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Ahh great stuff Kevin, I enjoyed having a look through your links. I wasn't even aware of ECN2 chemicals until looking into all of this. I don't (yet) do my own colour developing, so this essentially limits me to getting the rolls from Silbersalz. I'm not fussed about this in principle, but seeing the delivery prices for essentially 3 trips, it does put me off a little. Do you happen to know of any labs in the UK which can develop using the process? £2.25 is very attractive! I may have to look into what's required for bulk roll loading :D

In a nutshell, what are your thoughts on the results in general? I suppose specifically as well, what are your thoughts when comparing the results against Portra of comparable ISO?

FruitFlakes said:
I have a friend who swears by it for colour since he has trouble getting satisfactory colour scans on his home setup. I've been meaning to try myself but then, y'know, Brexit happened.
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Yeah... Brexit. *sigh*. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you ever do try it :)
 
Woodsy said:
Do you happen to know of any labs in the UK which can develop using the process? £2.25 is very attractive! I may have to look into what's required for bulk roll loading :D

In a nutshell, what are your thoughts on the results in general? I suppose specifically as well, what are your thoughts when comparing the results against Portra of comparable ISO?
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Nik and Trik do ECN2 developing, but only for film that they have sold. An easy way to dip your toe into the water would be to buy one or two rolls from them and have them develop it.

Silverpan Film Lab also do ECN2 developing, regardless of where the film is purchased. I haven't used them for ECN2; I have used them for one roll of B&W slide film and the results were fine although - as they state upfront - their turn around times are very long.

Although I have two bulk rolls of Vision, I've only actually developed 3 rolls of it so far so it's hard to generalise. I think the film is more than capable of results comparable in quality to Portra, but my home processing routine is not yet reliable enough to guarantee consistent high quality results. For this reason I wouldn't use 35mm Vision film for the "trip of a lifetime" - but then I probably wouldn't use 35mm at all for that purpose.
 
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