Sigma 24mm f1.4 Art Announced

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Sigma have announced the expected Sigma 24mm f1.4 Art lens as the latest addition to their already stellar Art line which includes the 35mm f1.4 A and the 50mm f1.4 A, no news on availability or price but hell the equivalent Nikon is about £1300 so I'm hoping for around £600-£700 like the 35mm!

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/5116211122/sigma-goes-wide-with-24mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-art-lens

Theres also been rumours about a new Nikon 24mm f1.8G which could be a cheaper alternative if it matches up to the other G primes.
 
Well this has thrown a spanner into my plan. I have 50 and 85mm primes already and was thinking about the 35 as a walkaround and winder lens, the 24 might be better suited to this combo. Awaiting prices and info but looks good.
 
24mm is a bit wide for a fix focal isn't it? not quite wide enough to be a glued on landscaper, but too wide for general portraits or people scene...interesting tho...they may just be padding up their Art line. I would still like them to revamp the 85mm but not likely as the 85mm hasn't been out for long.
 
ricky1980 said:
24mm is a bit wide for a fix focal isn't it? not quite wide enough to be a glued on landscaper, but too wide for general portraits or people scene...interesting tho...they may just be padding up their Art line. I would still like them to revamp the 85mm but not likely as the 85mm hasn't been out for long.
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I used to like a wide view and my 12-24mm used to be my most used lens but these days I've changed a bit and even 28 seems a big wide to me now. Like it or not 24mm is considered to be a pretty classic field of view. It may or may not be the most popular FoV but I'd guess that Sigma have done their sums and expect to sell enough to make a profit.

Personally I'd have thought that 85mm would have been the next logical Art step but maybe Sigma are being inundated with emails for a 24mm?

PS. I used to have a Sigma 20mm f1.8 and I thought that it was a good lens and quite sharp at f1.8 but although I was happy with it its focus system wasn't HSM and its build quality was only adequate and people do like quality. I believe that Sigmas 24 and 28mm f1.8's are very similar to the 20mm I had.
 
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the 85mm was introduced very recently - 2011...and it is largely ok bar the issue with softness outside the centre at wide apertures. (though not used this lens but just judging from reviews and some thorough testing carried out by ze germanian friends at photozone.de)

would have been nice to have the 85mm art as the 35mm is widely considered the pick of the bunch.

PS I think the sigma lens update period is 10 years. so shouldn't be expecting a new sigma 85mm anytime soon.
 
ricky1980 said:
the 85mm was introduced very recently - 2011...and it is largely ok bar the issue with softness outside the centre at wide apertures. (though not used this lens but just judging from reviews and some thorough testing carried out by ze germanian friends at photozone.de)

would have been nice to have the 85mm art as the 35mm is widely considered the pick of the bunch.

PS I think the sigma lens update period is 10 years. so shouldn't be expecting a new sigma 85mm anytime soon.
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Lol I don't think you should offer advice on equipment you have no knowledge of other reading a review some where happens a lot on here .
 
ricky1980 said:
the 85mm was introduced very recently - 2011...and it is largely ok bar the issue with softness outside the centre at wide apertures. (though not used this lens but just judging from reviews and some thorough testing carried out by ze germanian friends at photozone.de)

would have been nice to have the 85mm art as the 35mm is widely considered the pick of the bunch.

PS I think the sigma lens update period is 10 years. so shouldn't be expecting a new sigma 85mm anytime soon.
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Interesting. I had a Sigma 85mm f1.4 and it was probably the best AF lens I've ever used, better than the 50mm f1.4 I also owned. I never noticed any real world issues with softness at wider apertures and I suppose when considering this we have to also consider the competition.

A test result...
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/602-sigma85f14eosff?start=1

It may be a good lens :D but I think that an Art version could still attract interest and buyers.
 
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That's great new because I love 24mm on crop body (equivalent to 35mm full frame) as a walkaround lens. I have always find the 35mm (equivalent 50mm) to be a too narrow field of view as a walkaround lens. Canon as an equivalent too but really pricey.

Could they also do a 10mm f/1.8 for crop body, that would be amazing for astrophoto and their nothing that fast at wide angle, the closest being the Samyang 10mm f/2.8 for crop body and the Samyang 10mm f/2 for mirrorless camera.
 
f/2.8 said:
Lol I don't think you should offer advice on equipment you have no knowledge of other reading a review some where happens a lot on here .
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I am sure you have said the same thing in other thread and I have replied in equal measures as well.

But an informed decision is better than mindless buying and using something then not liking it. I am sure a lot of people who have the 85mm 1.4 wont have a problem with the contrast coma outside the centre of the frame...but those 10% of the time this will show up I would imagine especially if your subject is off centre of the frame...some kind of artistic landscape pose...or a running child or a move object or some kind of leading lines...then the focus of the view is going to be drawn towards parts of the frames that suffer this issue and it will look weird as centre of the frame (not the focus of the frame) is pin sharp but the rest is kinda blurry...just how I interpret photozone's test results and annotation to what kind if picture I am likely to make.

if you shoot faces bang on in the middle of the frame and crop out the rest of the frame then no issues...or if you use DX sensor as the problem becomes less of an issue as you are effectively cropped by sensor.

anyway...gone around a bit.

agreed new "Art" will probably draw more attention to it.
 
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Going to get one of these and also one of the 85mm 1.4 (non-art) should have all the focal ranges I need covered across a couple of bodies then :)
 
I have to admit if this is anything like as good as the 35 it'll be very tempting
 
I've got Thier 18-35 1.8 art lens! It's the best lens I've ever owned! It's fantastic!
 
Watching with excited eyes here :) As said, if it's anything like the 35mm it'll be on the wishlist :D
 
Much point if you already own a 35? As a pair it would probably be better to go 20/35 or 24/50?
 
Personally I'd not use a 24mm 18 or 21 ziess perhaps but it's in between anyrhing usefull
 
ricky1980 said:
I am sure you have said the same thing in other thread and I have replied in equal measures as well.

But an informed decision is better than mindless buying and using something then not liking it. I am sure a lot of people who have the 85mm 1.4 wont have a problem with the contrast coma outside the centre of the frame...but those 10% of the time this will show up I would imagine especially if your subject is off centre of the frame...some kind of artistic landscape pose...or a running child or a move object or some kind of leading lines...then the focus of the view is going to be drawn towards parts of the frames that suffer this issue and it will look weird as centre of the frame (not the focus of the frame) is pin sharp but the rest is kinda blurry...just how I interpret photozone's test results and annotation to what kind if picture I am likely to make.

if you shoot faces bang on in the middle of the frame and crop out the rest of the frame then no issues...or if you use DX sensor as the problem becomes less of an issue as you are effectively cropped by sensor.

anyway...gone around a bit.

agreed new "Art" will probably draw more attention to it.
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Sorry have to disregard anything you say on the matter as you are copying from an article you read online rather than any sort of experience.
 
mjScall said:
Going to get one of these and also one of the 85mm 1.4 (non-art) should have all the focal ranges I need covered across a couple of bodies then :)
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I'm sure you'll enjoy that lens. The Sigma 50 and 85mm f1.4's together with their 12-24mm pushed me away from my much loved 20D to a 5D :D and it's nice to see a company once mainly known for offering cheaper alternatives to the camera makers lenses move upmarket and more recently (arguably...) hit the top of the mass AF market with their Art range.

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Sorry have to disregard anything you say on the matter as you are copying from an article you read online rather than any sort of experience.
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Bit harsh isn't it? The guy made a comment and although the subject of the 85mm is a bit off topic it's sort of relevant in a wider discussion of upmarket Sigma lenses.
 
woof woof said:
Bit harsh isn't it? The guy made a comment and although the subject of the 85mm is a bit off topic it's sort of relevant in a wider discussion of upmarket Sigma lenses.
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I don't think so to be honest. I read an article online the other day about a cutting tool used for plastic surgery but I wouldn't try and offer advice to a doctor on which tool to use to perform a nose job.
 
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f/2.8 said:
I don't think so to be honest. I read an article online the other day about a cutting tool used for plastic surgery but I wouldn't try and offer advice to a doctor on how to perform a nose job.
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You're a hard man...
 
Oh crap, looks like I'm going to have to gamble on the Sigma QA lottery, looks like the one I've been waiting for. Just a 135mm now to complete the list.
 
Livin The Dream said:
Oh crap, looks like I'm going to have to gamble on the Sigma QA lottery, looks like the one I've been waiting for. Just a 135mm now to complete the list.
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tho i heard sigma is leaving that part with end user now...they can sell you their calibration tool - the usb dock :eek:

there are reports on DP review some of the lenses needing a different amount of fine tuning (in camera adjustment) when focus point is <2/3m and 2/3m to infinity. but they seem to have it sorted with the USB dock thingy...
 
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Hmmmm that's the point really isn't it! None of the marque brands do that but Sigma have introduced a 'fine tune it yourself ' gadget which I find bizarre. I have had 3 problems with Sigma lenses in the past which leaves me quite sceptical with them. But, and it's a big one, it's a prime I would like at half the cost of the Nikon version. I think the deciding factor is that it's a focal length that won't be used that often so that will no doubt win the vote.
 
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Hmmmm that's the point really isn't it! None of the marque brands do that but Sigma have introduced a 'fine tune it yourself ' gadget which I find bizarre.
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But most of the big names do have this feature - it's just that they do it in camera. Cameras now have microfocus adjustment built in to them as they know that their lenses are not all exactly the same. Sigma are just taking that to the next level by allowing you to have different levels of adjustment and being able to do firmware updates. I doubt that they deliberately do less quality control because of the USB hub.
 
$850 for this (price announced today), which seems very, very reasonable. Cheaper than the 35 and 50 Art at launch if memory serves, and significantly cheaper (less than half) the price of the CaNikon versions.
 
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ukaskew said:
$850 for this (price announced today), which seems very, very reasonable. Cheaper than the 35 and 50 Art at launch if memory serves, and significantly cheaper (less than half) the price of the CaNikon versions.
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MTF suggests the 35mm is a little sharper across the frame. The real interesting comparison is between sigma and canon 24mm: both MTFs look perfect up to midframe, then both nosedive in different ways. Real world comparison would be interesting. Sigma also has 9 blades vs 8 in Canon, so given the price difference Sigma is probably the one to go for if it is actually needed.
 
daugirdas said:
its a shame its not 85mm art. I have too much glass with 24mm somewhere in between...
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This lens will of course give you f1.4 at 24mm and that's something that your 24mm in between lenses will not do but personally I'd probably be happy with f2.8 at this length but of course the Sigma will probably be well into its stride at f2.8 and probably better than an f2.8 lens wide open.
 
woof woof said:
This lens will of course give you f1.4 at 24mm and that's something that your 24mm in between lenses will not do but personally I'd probably be happy with f2.8 at this length but of course the Sigma will probably be well into its stride at f2.8 and probably better than an f2.8 lens wide open.
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Fair point, but to be honest I can't remember the last time I used 24mm at anything wider than f/6.3... I am not any good at astro, and generally like all things in focus with wide lens (even at a wedding)
 
daugirdas said:
Fair point, but to be honest I can't remember the last time I used 24mm at anything wider than f/6.3... I am not any good at astro, and generally like all things in focus with wide lens (even at a wedding)
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Yup. But these days doesn't a lens have to be f1.4? :D and I'm pretty sure some will want to shoot the stars or dim churches etc.

I'm sure it'll be a lovely lens :D
 
Ugh, I'm going to need a bigger bag eventually... Or just maybe one day I can flog my zooms...

daugirdas said:
Fair point, but to be honest I can't remember the last time I used 24mm at anything wider than f/6.3... I am not any good at astro, and generally like all things in focus with wide lens (even at a wedding)
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I barely ever stop down below about 2.5...
 
If the 24mm is as good as the new 50mm then it will definitely find its way into my backpack!

I would imagine it will initially retail around the £850 but, if I can be patient, should drop to around £650 much like the 50mm.

The question is, can I resist the urge to hit the "buy now" button when it is listed?!

Andy
 
Interesting ... I doubt I'd exchange the 35 for one though
 
Never tried it no, I don't feel I need a 50mm right now. I've had a couple in the past and sold them on because I wasn't making good use of them. I love a 35mm, and also prefer an 85 to a 50 - course, I'd not say no to one if it was a gift :D
 
Cagey75 said:
Never tried it no, I don't feel I need a 50mm right now. I've had a couple in the past and sold them on because I wasn't making good use of them. I love a 35mm, and also prefer an 85 to a 50 - course, I'd not say no to one if it was a gift :D
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Ahh. I was just curious to hear how a FF body and this new lens performed.

I was hoping to hear that Sigma were going to update their 85mm to stay in line with their new Art range. I'm sure there will be a release this year and if it follows the likes of the 35mm 1.4 and 50mm 1.4 it could be "the" go to portrait lens.
 
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