Sigma 12-24mm Reduced @ Jessops

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I'm not sure if this has been posted previously, but Jessops have reduced this lens to £399. I know where there is one in stock in London. I was going to buy it, but my friend lets me borrow hers for free whenever I need it and I do the same with my lens.

So if anyone wants one, let me know and ill tell you where it is located.

Its a Canon fit btw.

Alternatively if someone not in London wants one. PM me and ill pick it up for you, and post it out. £10 for my troubles + postage.
 
Thanks for the tip off - just had a look at Jessops website and they are still showing it at £739 for the Canon version but when I contacted my local store it was indeed £399. I've been toying with one of these for a while so have reserved, will have to flog my Sigma 10-20, I wonder if I'll still use the 17-40...Looking it seems that they are instock at a fair few branches.
 
i checked around the city of london, and only managed to find one. But im sure they still have lots in stock as they can be ordered from the warehouse.
 
hsuffyan said:
i checked around the city of london, and only managed to find one. But im sure they still have lots in stock as they can be ordered from the warehouse.
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I doubt it as they no longer deal with Sigma as a supplier.

Out of interest there is a Canon fit one in the Milton Keynes branch for £399.
 
I very nearly bought one (even got as far as placing an order on an online site), but I cancelled it and got the Canon 17-40mm f/4 L instead.

Apart from the fact it's not quite as wide as the Siggy (by all of 5mm!!) and a bit more expensive, it's better in every way.. A flat front element (meaning you can use a polariser with it, important if you're shooting landscapes); Canon L quality, meaning you're not going to have to return the damn thing for being soft; consistent aperture across the zoom range; and a more useable zoom range, making it a better holiday/walkabout lens.

£399 is a great price, but I think I made the right decision :)

Thanks for the heads-up though!

A.
 
First of all Canon do not make a 14-70L I suspect you mean 17-40L, and whilst you seem to think that 5mm is not a great difference, on a full frame camera it is considerably different.

I have had both the 12-24 Sigma and the 17-40L and I sold the 17-40L as it just cannot compete with the 12-24 between 12mm and 17mm.

If you want a true rectilinear super ultrawide there is nothing else available to match the 12mm Sigma, the next nearest would be either the 14mm Nikkor or the 14mm Canon.

Oh, and not all copies of this great lens are soft!
 
just to let people know the lens I had reserved is no longer available, i've agreed to post it to another member.

but i hear other Jessops still have some in stock. Good luck! :thumbs:

I think this lens is fantastic for getting creative. I often use my friends one at wedding shoots to get close the car and take some funky shots. One day id like to have my own, but no funds right now.
 
EdBray said:
First of all Canon do not make a 14-70L I suspect you mean 17-40L
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Indeed I do - corrected ;)

EdBray said:
and whilst you seem to think that 5mm is not a great difference, on a full frame camera it is considerably different.

I have had both the 12-24 Sigma and the 17-40L and I sold the 17-40L as it just cannot compete with the 12-24 between 12mm and 17mm.

If you want a true rectilinear super ultrawide there is nothing else available to match the 12mm Sigma, the next nearest would be either the 14mm Nikkor or the 14mm Canon.
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All down to personal preference.. I did a bit of research on both lenses in terms of checking out pics on Flickr etc., and they can both produce pretty spectacular effects at the widest end. My point was that, for the sake of a slightly narrower field of view, the Canon is better than the Sigma in virtually every way. If you absolutely need a 12mm field of view, then I agree that the Siggy is the only way to go.

EdBray said:
Oh, and not all copies of this great lens are soft!
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I'm sure there must be some good ones out there :D Seriously though, it's pretty poor that Sigma has such lousy quality control. The sort of tog who buys this lens is going to notice if it's soft on one side.. There have been a few threads about the 12-24mm, and just about everyone complained about variation between samples. It's really not good enough to expect to have to return a lens 2 or 3 times until you get a good copy, and it would make buying one from an online store a complete pain in the :schtum:

I really like the idea of the 12-24mm, and to be honest I'm a wee bit tempted to try one at £399..! But all things considered, the con's outweighed the pro's for me.

A.
 
B*gger. I just paid £420 for a used 12-24mm last month. Oh well, sod's law. It's astonishingly wide though, great for interiors.
 
i wonder when other retailers will have to discount sigma items, the markup is obviously huge seeing how much Jessops have now discounted them (even though Jessops were pricey in the first place).
 
hsuffyan said:
i wonder when other retailers will have to discount sigma items, the markup is obviously huge seeing how much Jessops have now discounted them (even though Jessops were pricey in the first place).
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I don't think that the mark up is as big as these discounts are suggesting, I know that the wholesale price of the 12-24 is higher than Jessops are selling this for. When you look at some of the other clearance prices it becomes clear that some of this stuff is being sold at a loss to clear stock. I'm sure other retailers will not react to this pricing as it is such limited quantities of stock being sold off... it might dent the used prices for a bit though.
 
postcardcv said:
I don't think that the mark up is as big as these discounts are suggesting, I know that the wholesale price of the 12-24 is higher than Jessops are selling this for. When you look at some of the other clearance prices it becomes clear that some of this stuff is being sold at a loss to clear stock. I'm sure other retailers will not react to this pricing as it is such limited quantities of stock being sold off... it might dent the used prices for a bit though.
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its already on fleabay for £399. But I see what you are saying with the supplies dwindling, the other retailers and ebay sellers do not need to price match, they just need to wait out the supplies.
 
Hi all, my first post though I've been lurking here for ages!

I'm curious why Jessops would stop selling Sigma lenses? They're a popular brand and it can only reduce sales???

Cheers, Deasy.
 
hsuffyan said:
i wonder when other retailers will have to discount sigma items, the markup is obviously huge seeing how much Jessops have now discounted them (even though Jessops were pricey in the first place).
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Jessops have cleared their stock as they have agreed to stock Tamron instead of Sigma, nothing to do with 'discount' as such. Sigma's prices (just like most camera lens manufacturers) went up due to the impact on the global currencies.
 
Deasy said:
Hi all, my first post though I've been lurking here for ages!

I'm curious why Jessops would stop selling Sigma lenses? They're a popular brand and it can only reduce sales???

Cheers, Deasy.
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They are now stocking Tamron instead of Sigma.
 
Deasy said:
Hi all, my first post though I've been lurking here for ages!

I'm curious why Jessops would stop selling Sigma lenses? They're a popular brand and it can only reduce sales???

Cheers, Deasy.
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It's not that Jessops have chosen to stop selling Sigma, but rather that Sigma have chosen not to extend credit to Jessops any more, so if a customer wants a Sigma lens then Jessops have to order it and pay for it in advance, hence no stock....
 
I love my 12-24mm and would have no hesitation whatsoever in recommending it to others. It makes the most of dramatic skies even without a filter like no other lens I've used, and in fact as soon as blue skies and white fluffy clouds appear, out it comes! Then of course there is the "12mm on FF" argument someone else mentions above - I love playing with my old film SLR with that lens on board! Ahhhh!
 
Bought one, was very soft, took it back, they exchanged it for another, was soft again, they sent it away for repair, tried to say i damaged it and tried to charge me for it. The second hand value is close to this price, seen a few on ebay go for just under this amount, so its a good price but just prey you get a good one.
 
Wish I could have found a good one. After trying three samples of it, all soft in different places, I got fed up with it and Jessops returned my money. Just tried a friends Nikon 14/24 and that is much better at 2.8 all over than any of the Sigmas I tried. Pity about the price compared to £399.
 
so i ended up on a wild goose chase today, with no goose to show at the end of it.

had one reserved at Jessops in Victoria, went there and some idiot had put a nikon version into the canon box. I didnt realise till i tried it on and ofcourse it didnt fit. the extremely dreary assistant tried to ram it into another canon body they had, maybe thinking my body was a dud? :cuckoo: meanwhile a customer walks in asking her if canon, nikon, sony, olympus gear is compatible and she said it wasnt, but with an 'adapting mount' (again a bit :cuckoo:) i informed the customer theres no need as each maker supplies almost the same type of lens so there is no need to faff around with such rubbish. but anyway, determined to find another Sigma for the gentleman I had promised, the shop assistant found one in the kensington branch, which i had no idea where it was. So i asked her the postcode, and it took her 6 mins to locate it. It would have been easier to go on the net or phone them. I looked it up on my phone and set off. So it turns out the high st kensington is very long! 15 min walk in the rain to the branch and luckily it is a canon mount they had in stock. but when I put it on a 5d mkII, it was softer than Alan Carr at a game of tiddlywinks. The shop assistant there was more helpful, but tried to convince me it was camera shake. Camera shake @ 12mm in decent lighting @ ISO 400 with shutter speed of 80+ on a 5D MKII. I think not! So back to the station I went and no Sigma to show for it.

Based on what I saw of Jessops today, I encouraged my equity trader to short their stock and to sit and wait :thumbs: and finally washed my hands, remembering that I had touched something that belonged to the dark side! :lol:

ok, rant over!
 
Flash In The Pan said:
It's not that Jessops have chosen to stop selling Sigma, but rather that Sigma have chosen not to extend credit to Jessops any more, so if a customer wants a Sigma lens then Jessops have to order it and pay for it in advance, hence no stock....
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Well if that's the case it shows what a sorry state Jessops's finances must be in.

I agree with others, it's better to buy from a high volume online retailer where you're guaranteed to get a factory fresh product, none of this nonsense of high street retailers who 'recycle' returns until someone keeps them.

At one time I'd have been tempted by the Sigma 12-24 but after buying a soft 24-70 f2.8 a while back I'm not so confident in their quality control- I don't understand how some of these howlers get to leave the factory!
 
the stats from a hire company were posted a while back, something like 30% chance of getting five "good" sigmas on the trot IIRC :(
 
post some images please, would have loved to see what this lens can do if it was sharp
 
The majority of these lens will be returns / recycled stock if Jessops have no more credit facilities with Sigma so there is little or no chance of getting a decent unit.
 
Thats a very good point Razor - they could all be duffers :(

hsuffyan very kindly had a look for me in London yesterday (Thank you again!)

Anyone got a decent one up for sale??

Rog
 
Jessops cannot order any new lenses in, unless you pay the full price for them.

They have been in trouble for some time, but they have soldiered on for a few years and appear to be going. Hopefully they can make christmas and have a nice upturn with the DSLR market.
 
Well I hope they do, despite their problems it was always handy to pick something up in a hurry and they did have the odd cracking deal now and again.
 
time will tell. HSBC have so much money invested in them they cant really afford to let them go. I cant see them being able to make a full recovery any time soon, they need to scale down the size of their busines, and maybe go back to be a mailorder/internet retailer.
 
If anyone is having problems locating a sigma lens near them, this may help:

Having reserved a lens online for store pickup I was really disappointed to find my bargain lens was actually out of stock at Jessops, and I spent an hour yesterday afternoon chasing around after a cheap lens at various other Jessops stores, and managed to find one in northern England. (I'm in London). The guy in the northern store was really helpful and as he couldn't take payment over the phone is doing an inter store transfer to London so I don't have to travel for hours to get the lens - all I had to do was to get the London store to call the other store to arrange and voila, with any luck it I can pick it up (and pay) on Monday!
 
Ps... I was told during my lens hunt that even if I paid the full amount and then waited for the stock to arrive, it would not be possible to order anything from sigma for the foreseeable due to "new company policy".
 
polochick said:
If anyone is having problems locating a sigma lens near them, this may help:

Having reserved a lens online for store pickup I was really disappointed to find my bargain lens was actually out of stock at Jessops, and I spent an hour yesterday afternoon chasing around after a cheap lens at various other Jessops stores, and managed to find one in northern England. (I'm in London). The guy in the northern store was really helpful and as he couldn't take payment over the phone is doing an inter store transfer to London so I don't have to travel for hours to get the lens - all I had to do was to get the London store to call the other store to arrange and voila, with any luck it I can pick it up (and pay) on Monday!
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just goes to show how inconsistent jessops are. Two people in the victoria branch told me yesterday that they dont do inter store transfer.

hope you get yours and its a solid copy. ive used a nice one from my friend who paid £600+ and it was superb.
 
hsuffyan said:
Camera shake @ 12mm in decent lighting @ ISO 400 with shutter speed of 80+ on a 5D MKII. I think not!
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Should have read:

Absurd, me, the 14th Duke of Wimbome, with camera shake @ 12mm in decent lighting @ ISO 400 with shutter speed of 80+ on a 5D MKII, surround by scantily clad lady's, with my reputation, I think not!

:lol::lol:
 
Dylanlewis2000 said:
post some images please, would have loved to see what this lens can do if it was sharp
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I seem to recall that this one was with the beast in question...

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PerfectSpeed said:
Should have read:

Absurd, me, the 14th Duke of Wimbome, with camera shake @ 12mm in decent lighting @ ISO 400 with shutter speed of 80+ on a 5D MKII, surround by scantily clad lady's, with my reputation, I think not!

:lol::lol:
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stop making fun of me, i did me best :bang:
 
Dylanlewis2000 said:
post some images please, would have loved to see what this lens can do if it was sharp
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I wish I could help... :'( I gave the lens a good testing today and it quickly became obvious that I'd been sold a pup. I took a couple of dozen shots with it and as soon as I loaded them onto my PC a soft band on the left side was apparent. Looking back at the images I took instore the demo lens was better but still not quite right I am wondering how the images seemed fine when they were shown to me but have clear issue when viewed on my PC... :cuckoo:

Needless to say that this will be going back to Jessops for a refund, I'm not even going to bother trying to find a better copy it's not worth the hassle. I'm sure that 17mm is wide enough for almost every occassion.
 
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