Sigma 100-400 £799 launch price

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This will be an interesting lens to challenge Canon and Nikon if pricing becomes a issue for the cost conscious. A launch price of £799 is very good. As a owner of the 150-600C I have been impressed with the quality of Sigma's latest offerings to the market place. I did toy with buying the MK2 Canon 100-400 but could not being a hobbyist justify to myself the cost even through my usual route on grey import, the cost of the Canon vs. the Sigma 150-600C was for me a no brainer.

I even managed to convert a die hard Nikon user who was lusting after a Nikon 200-500 to try the Sigma 150-600 need less to say he bought one after renting for one week.

If this new Sigma 100-400 is as good as the 150-600 it will win a lot of converts for sure. That's pretty high praise for me after vowing never to buy Sigma again after owning some woeful quality lenses in the past from Sigma they have upped there game in the past 5 years.

https://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_62&product_id=523
 
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Had a play with one of these at the Photography Show. Build quality seemed the same as the 150-600C (hardly a great surprise!) and it was fairly compact and light
 
Does look good ,but on past experience ,next year should be about right for buying price wise
 
That's a very keen price compared to the Canon, be interesting to see how it compares.
 
I want this to be very very good, but Ive a feeling it may not be.
 
It'll be decent and good value for the moneyt but I seriously doubt it'll challenge the Canon
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Why do you say that?
I bought my 150-600 a year ago, and if I bought one today it would cost me more.
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A couple of months ago I popped into WEX for a feel of the 150-600 and the sales person advised me that the 150-600mm would be going up in prices along with all other lenses and that companies like Sigma & Tamron were using Brexit as the reason for the sudden increase.
 
Minimum aperture F5? Was hoping for more, but i guess we can't complain at the price.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Why do you say that?
I bought my 150-600 a year ago, and if I bought one today it would cost me more.
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There is usually a 'new adopters' charge with prices dropping a few months after release. The issue from last year to this year is the value of the pound has lost so much over the last 12-18 months. If that hadn't happened we may have seen the usually price drop several moths after release.

Jwar1976 said:
A couple of months ago I popped into WEX for a feel of the 150-600 and the sales person advised me that the 150-600mm would be going up in prices along with all other lenses and that companies like Sigma & Tamron were using Brexit as the reason for the sudden increase.
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Its not exactly 'brexit' thats the reason for the price increase, more the drop in the value of the pound in the last 12-18 months (which could be said to have slid due to brexit and other factors). Manufacturers are getting less back at the current exchange rate so they had to increase their UK prices.
 
Jwar1976 said:
A couple of months ago I popped into WEX for a feel of the 150-600 and the sales person advised me that the 150-600mm would be going up in prices along with all other lenses and that companies like Sigma & Tamron were using Brexit as the reason for the sudden increase.
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To be fair, the pound has crashed about 20% compared to other currencies

It'll be interesting to see, but the canon 100-400 is an impressive lens. I picked up both mine second hand for around £600 and they are perfect in use, so I guess thats the benchmark. A new sigma or second hand canon. They'll always be a market at a lower price, even if it's not as good.
 
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Jwar1976 said:
A couple of months ago I popped into WEX for a feel of the 150-600 and the sales person advised me that the 150-600mm would be going up in prices along with all other lenses and that companies like Sigma & Tamron were using Brexit as the reason for the sudden increase.
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Brexit is not the direct reason, the value of the pound is the reason, though brexit I think caused the devaluation, though some high end investors reckoned the pound was becoming overvalued before brexit!
 
I too was not impressed with a sigma lenses I had bought in the dark and distant past - but their latest offerings seem to be in a different league altogether. I eventually decided to bite the bullet and buy the Sigma 160-600 C + MC -11 adapter for use on my Sony A7R2 . The auto focus is quick and responsive and the images wide open are so sharp you could shave with them ! The advantage of the 42 megapixel Sony sensor is you can really pixel peep to explore lens faults - of which I didn't find any.
So I have great expectations for the 100-400 C . Reviews by real users will be useful - let's hope we get a few on here. I also found the 'real use' reviews on the EOS site extremely valuable as well.
 
Hertsman said:
I want this to be very very good, but Ive a feeling it may not be.
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Why? All their lenses in the past few years have been excellent.
 
odd jim said:
Why? All their lenses in the past few years have been excellent.
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Ive not seen much from the 150-600 c that impresses me tbh. There are some, but not enough to sway me .

Not saying its not good, but Imleft feeling unconvinced by it.
 
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Call it a personal thing, I dont know. I do know that I was bang in the market for one and have just bought a 300 prime instead.

Nothing wrong with any of the above btw.
 
IMO at the moment Sigma are producing sublime lenses that belay their price tags. The 150-600 lenses, all the Art series lenses and optically probably the best lens I've used for quite some time, the 105mm OS. Certainly if I was in the market for a 100-400 I would definitely look at the Sigma offering :)
 
The art lenses are certainly good, pricier than previous sigma offerings but then you're paying for the quality. The additional knock on is that reputation then gets associated with their other lenses.
 
Byker28i said:
The art lenses are certainly good, pricier than previous sigma offerings but then you're paying for the quality. The additional knock on is that reputation then gets associated with their other lenses.
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...but quite rightly too, their non Art lenses are also excellent.
 
lightshipman said:
Brexit is not the direct reason, the value of the pound is the reason, though brexit I think caused the devaluation, though some high end investors reckoned the pound was becoming overvalued before brexit!
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Yes you make a good point there, I was only passing on what the sales advisor told me, so really didn't know what to make of it.

Getting back to the lens at hand, looking through various sites, I have found some links to pictures taken with the lens.

Link 1

https://www.flickr.com/photos/135563850@N02/sets/72157683237776386

Link 2

https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasrubach/sets/72157679992053944

Even when zoomed in on some of the photos they look great for the low price of the lens, I will be interested to see other photos taken but on Canon and also expert reviews in the coming weeks. But it looks like this Lens could be the next to go into my kit bag, as I found the 150-600 quite difficult to hold.
 
They do look rather good, bargain at £799 , wonder what import price will be
 
Balb0wa said:
They do look rather good, bargain at £799 , wonder what import price will be
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DigitalRev charge £741.29

I have never bought grey import before so have no idea how reliable these companies are.
 
Jwar1976 said:
DigitalRev charge £741.29

I have never bought grey import before so have no idea how reliable these companies are.
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i do , all the time, i bet these will be £599 ish in a few months on import.
 
My only issue with Sigma is that there's too many that don't play nice with Nikon, even with the dock. It's the one reason I've not taken the plunge and bought the 50mm art.
 
Hertsman said:
Call it a personal thing, I dont know. I do know that I was bang in the market for one and have just bought a 300 prime instead.

Nothing wrong with any of the above btw.
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The 150-600mm will never compete with a good prime in ultimate IQ, but they're totally different lenses and for something that gives you 600mm reach for £700 or so the IQ of the Sigma and Tamron 150-600's is excellent.
 
snerkler said:
The 150-600mm will never compete with a good prime in ultimate IQ, but they're totally different lenses and for something that gives you 600mm reach for £700 or so the IQ of the Sigma and Tamron 150-600's is excellent.
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I do agree with you on that point Toby, but as I get older, I find myself disliking compromise in any form......
 
Hertsman said:
I do agree with you on that point Toby, but as I get older, I find myself disliking compromise in any form......
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Yeah, I'm getting like that tbh. Trouble is I need the range, and flexibility so don't have a lot of choice. I'd love a 500/600mm f4 but unless I rob a bank that's never going to happen ;)
 
There's always the 150-600 sport ,more weight ,higher price but mine is like an extension of my eye .i certaintly won't be changing anytime soon .i also own a new sigma 70-200 f.2.8 and a tc-1401 they all work together far better than there price point ,
I see the new 100-400 as a good compliment to those and will get one when funds become available
 
Be interesting to see if it plays ball with the Nikon 1 series.
 
the black fox said:
There's always the 150-600 sport ,more weight ,higher price but mine is like an extension of my eye .i certaintly won't be changing anytime soon .i also own a new sigma 70-200 f.2.8 and a tc-1401 they all work together far better than there price point ,
I see the new 100-400 as a good compliment to those and will get one when funds become available
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How do you find the 70-200f2.8?

I've been considering getting it for a while as a more affordable lens to the canon 2.8 mkii. The price went up fairly recently which is a shame.
 
mark richards said:
I wonder if they will upgrade the nikon 1 series , its been awhile now.
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Yes that would be nice with some of the features from the scrapped DL 24-500.
 
odd jim said:
Why? All their lenses in the past few years have been excellent.
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Interested in your thoughts.

Whilst I agree that the Sigma 150-600 lenses are particularly good value for the money (I rather like the "Sport" version) on my cameras (7D2 and 1DX) they simply do not compete with the Canon offerings. Granted the Canon lenses are more expensive, especially at beyond 400mm, but that does not make the Sigmas "Excellent". Very good value certainly but not excellent.

Their IQ is very good - but not quite as good. Their aperture is a handicap and their AF performance is simply not in the same league.

They fit the needs of some photographers well and at an affordable price - an excellent job by Sigma! Having used/owned and, currently owning, some of the better long lenses - the 150-600 Sigmas are not in the running. Having said that I am eager to give the Sigma 500 F4 a try - it looks promising!

All the best.
 
johnf3f said:
Interested in your thoughts.

Whilst I agree that the Sigma 150-600 lenses are particularly good value for the money (I rather like the "Sport" version) on my cameras (7D2 and 1DX) they simply do not compete with the Canon offerings. Granted the Canon lenses are more expensive, especially at beyond 400mm, but that does not make the Sigmas "Excellent". Very good value certainly but not excellent.

Their IQ is very good - but not quite as good. Their aperture is a handicap and their AF performance is simply not in the same league.

They fit the needs of some photographers well and at an affordable price - an excellent job by Sigma! Having used/owned and, currently owning, some of the better long lenses - the 150-600 Sigmas are not in the running. Having said that I am eager to give the Sigma 500 F4 a try - it looks promising!

All the best.
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It's difficult to compare apples with oranges though as Canon don't really have anything to compare the 150-600mm too. There's the 100-400mm L USM II which the sigma holds it own against whilst offering much more reach, or the big primes which you can't really compare it to. Nikon have the 200-500mm and again the Sigma and Tamron hold their own against it.

I think it's fair to say the Sigma (and Tamron for that matter) 150-600mms are excellent for that given bracket, and still very good in the grand scheme of things.
 
johnf3f said:
Interested in your thoughts.

Whilst I agree that the Sigma 150-600 lenses are particularly good value for the money (I rather like the "Sport" version) on my cameras (7D2 and 1DX) they simply do not compete with the Canon offerings. Granted the Canon lenses are more expensive, especially at beyond 400mm, but that does not make the Sigmas "Excellent". Very good value certainly but not excellent.

Their IQ is very good - but not quite as good. Their aperture is a handicap and their AF performance is simply not in the same league.

They fit the needs of some photographers well and at an affordable price - an excellent job by Sigma! Having used/owned and, currently owning, some of the better long lenses - the 150-600 Sigmas are not in the running. Having said that I am eager to give the Sigma 500 F4 a try - it looks promising!

All the best.
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Well, there is no Canon offering so they've beaten Canon there already.

But it *is* an excellent lens. It's long, versatile, has very good OS, is very sharp wide open even at 600mm and the focus is very good indeed, with instantly switchable settings from very fast for moving subjects to slower, more considered focusing for accuracy.

The aperture doesn't hinder me on the 6d, where I can comfortably (but very rarely have to) shoot at silly high ISO if I need to, but can get the speeds I need without issue and with huge background separation possible creating in effect shallow DOF, especially on FF.

It's beyond "excellent value for money", it would still be excellent at twice the price.
 
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Byker28i said:
100-400 with 1.4tc would be an equivalent?
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Not really, it's a workaround and it'd be f8 and I dare say the SIgma and Tamron would be significantly better than this combo.
 
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