Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 or....

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...the new Sigma 10-20 f/3.5???

I'm looking to get an UWA like this after Christmas, and was wondering if anybody had compared the two, and which was better?

Thanks :thumbs:
 
The tokina 11-16 2.8 is very very highly rated, even faster than the sigma, and about the same price... slightly smaller range but may be another one to look into :)
 
itsdavedotnet said:
The tokina 11-16 2.8 is very very highly rated, even faster than the sigma, and about the same price... slightly smaller range but may be another one to look into :)
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Ooh! An option I hadn't considered! Cheers for that! :thumbs:
 
I've got the sigma f4-5.6 & love it, some reviews claim it's slightly sharper than the new one but to be honest I really couldn't tell the difference so went for the cheaper option (I use it for landscape work and so the slightly bigger aperture didn't have any benefit for me)
 
Another vote for the Sigma f4-5.6. It's a great bit of glass. 10/10
 
When I went full frame I was genuinely sorry to see my f4-5.6 go as it's a fantastic piece of kit and super sharp. Couldn't ask for anything else at those focal lengths.
 
I considered the the Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 but I read too many stories of people having received a bady copy.
As I wanted to get the best price online, I didn't like the idea of having to send a new lens back.
I can't speak for the new Sigma UWA but hopefully Sigmas QA issues have improved.
I know it's more expensive but have you considered the Canon EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM?
It's an amazing lens and with USM it's very quiet.
I know the Tokina is getting good reviews and obviously it all depends on your budget.
 
I've got kalibre's old 10-20 iirc, and yeah, it's a great lens, but the difference is about £100 to get the 2.8 constant instead of f4.5 at sharpest... if you do any low light work, seriously consider the tokina, I find myself actively avoiding the 10-20 because it's so slow (all my other glass is 2.8 or faster), and it's pretty much a lens that only gets pulled out of the bag when needed, but when it is, usually produces great results.

Either way, I think I'd go for the critically acclaimed 11-16 2.8 over the 'there are some qc issues' 10-20 3.5 :)
 
If your budget can stretch go for the canon 10-22, it's sharp!!
 
is there a noticeable difference in wideness between the tokina 11-16 and the sigma 10-20 ?
 
IanC said:
is there a noticeable difference in wideness between the tokina 11-16 and the sigma 10-20 ?
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As the name implies the difference will be hardly noticeable at the wide end. You may find yourself missing the 16-20 range though.
 
Hi guys,

For me, the sort of stuff I shoot with an ultra-wide doesn't lend itself at all well to large apertures or hand-holding in low light.

For instance, landscapes I would usually shoot stopped down to get the greatest depth of focus, and so I don't have to be so accurate calculating the hyperfocal distance (ie just guess!). They usually benefit from a spot of bracketing and merging as well to get the highest dynamic range which means it's tripod time.

Again, I'm not sure what sort of subjects would need to be shot ultra-wide, large aperture, hand held, under low light. My usual low-light hand-held stuff (gigs and nightclubs) clearly doesn't require ultra-wide. Night shoots really need a tripod anyway. Am I missing something? :thinking: What sort of subjects need a large aperture ultra-wide?
 
Only ones I can thing of are the kind of quirky action shots you sometimes see low down of things like skateboarders where you might want a fast shutter.
 
I've just gone for the Sigma f4-5.6. but not had chance to try it out properly yet. :(
 
Cheers for the replies guys. What's the reliability like with the Tokina? Do they have a better rep than Siggy for good/bad copies???
 
I've just got the Tokina but haven't had a chance to test it out yet. Build quality is pretty good though, feels very well made.
 
AnnaV said:
I've just got the Tokina but haven't had a chance to test it out yet. Build quality is pretty good though, feels very well made.
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Sounds good Anna. Perhaps you could post a few piccies once you've had a chance to play with it. Really is a toss-up between that and the f4-5.6 Siggy (if I can get the Tok for the right price, that is ;))
 
You can get the Canon 10-22 for just over £100 more than the Sigma if you buy from Onestop-digital.
 
Another vote for the Siggy. Love mine. Don't really find you need it to be fast - at those focal lengths it's pretty straightforward to handhold. I did a fair bit of research before I plumped for mine (I was quite prepared to pay the extra for Canon glass), and after far too many hours researching it the conclusions were that there was not enough difference to make the Canon worth it.

I'm sure the Tok is good, but in practice I think 15-20 gets used far more than 10-15 (10 is pretty extreme!) and I didn't fancy switching lenses all the time.

Starabo
 
starabo said:
in practice I think 15-20 gets used far more than 10-15 (10 is pretty extreme!) and I didn't fancy switching lenses all the time.
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Good point, good point...
 
Is the Tokina 11-16mm compatible with full-frame Canon cameras?
 
Rooster said:
Is the Tokina 11-16mm compatible with full-frame Canon cameras?
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Nope APS-C only, I think it can physically mount as its EF but the image circle isn't big enough for Full Frame
 
Yeah, its stated as APS-C only but as Thmanga says it does fit on a full frame body but doesnt cover the whole sensor area.

There's a few examples of it on full frame in this review.
 
I found the Canon EF-S 10-22mm slightly better than the sigma (worth the extra £100 maybe no)
 
There are lost of Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 about so if you shop you can get a great price on a used one. I got my one for £260 and is like new. I am very happy with it :)
 
starabo said:
£100? you mean £240.

Siggy 10-20 f4-5.6 circa £390

Canon 10-22 f3.5-4.5 circa £630

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Simply electronics have the canon10-22 for £459.......Bargain :thumbs:
 
starabo said:
£100? you mean £240.

Siggy 10-20 f4-5.6 circa £390

Canon 10-22 f3.5-4.5 circa £630

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actually from Amazon u can find the canon for 530 range even less.

Im drooling enough for this lens that im selling my pet snakes for the money (im not caring for them any more so they are better off)

But If I get the Sigma one I could sell 1 less snake as long as it has any sensible advantage over the canon apart from costs less.

But been through the Sigma vs Canon before and Canon won hands down that other time. Dont want me to get the Sigma and spend a considerable time regretting it
 
tarby said:
Simply electronics have the canon10-22 for £459.......Bargain :thumbs:
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Yes but you'd simply be nuts to buy from them.
 
from reading similar threads, the Sigma is hit and miss on sharpness, with many users having 3 or 4 before finding a good one. others have been happy 1st time.

but I haven't come across anyone saying there are any soft canon ones about .

For me, that's enough to make me wait till I can afford a canon one. I dont trust todays retailers enough to risk getting a soft sigma and being stuck with it :thumbsdown:
 
Is the Tokina known to be soft? Or for soft copies at least?
 
Ive not heard anyone say anything against Tokina .. but I've not come across that many that have them either, so hard to say. Really sharp, from the few that have posted.

not for me ***, as I've gone and bought a full frame !


EDIT > Actually .. a good point. The Ziggy is the only one that can be used FF, if you are considering that in the future

EDIT Again ! :> My mistake .... I was thinking of the 12-24 apparently
 
Tricky69 said:
Actually .. a good point. The Ziggy is the only one that can be used FF, if you are considering that in the future
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The Sigma 10-20 is a DC lens, which means it's for crop sensor cameras, no??
 
Nifkin said:
The Sigma 10-20 is a DC lens, which means it's for crop sensor cameras, no??
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DG (DG Lens)
These are large-aperture lenses with wide angles and short minimum focusing distances. With an abundance of peripheral illumination, they are ideal lenses for Digital SLR Cameras whilst retaining suitability for traditional 35mm SLRs.
DC (DC Lens)
These are special lenses designed so that the image circle matches the smaller size of the image sensor of most digital SLR cameras. Their specialized design gives these lenses the ideal properties for digital cameras, the compact and lightweight construction is an added bonus ! including compact and lightweight construction.
 
Nifkin said:
The Sigma 10-20 is a DC lens, which means it's for crop sensor cameras, no??
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not from what I've read on here.

The Canon one can be hacked and used on the 1D series too

EDIT > My mistake .... I was thinking of the 12-24 apparently
 
nah ill go for the Canon. Not one review against Canon but seen ones vs Sigma
 
hashcake said:
Yes but you'd simply be nuts to buy from them.
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If you don't fancy Simply Electronics, the Canon can be had from Onestop-Digital for £489 (advertised at £499, but you can get them to pricematch).
 
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