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A guy i work with shoved his phone in my hand yesterday and before i know it i'm watching some guy diving into the sea, next thing he's on the A&E table with a doc pushing his face back together. It is the vilest thing i've ever seen and if you have had the displeasure of seeing this vid you'll know what i mean. I had this image in my head all shift and it was not pretty. And before it is said, no i didnt watch it all.

If its real or if it's fake i have to ask WHY do people produce such ****e? Why do people take pleasure in inflicting it on people by circulating it via Facebook, email, MMS messaging etc etc.

Where does the boundary stop with this kind of filth. I'm a broadminded bloke but come on. The Brit hostage in Iraq being beheaded and that kind of stuff is just simply wrong, if people want to see blood n guts they should organise themself a trip to thier local slaughter-house instead of circulating this appalling voyeurism into someone obvious missery.

Rant over...please discuss
 
It was on a guys mobile although i'm told you can find it on the net (you tube maybe ) but to be honest dont. It was on facebook but has now been removed, thankfully.

If you really want to see it i'm sure it will do the rounds. BUT BE WARNED IT IS HORRIFIC
 
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It's a bit like those dumbass kids who kick the **** out of some poor victim and record it from every angle, it is probably posted on the net before the poor sod makes it to hospital. NOT something I would ever be inclined to watch.
To be fair, the "victim" in the video you saw was self inflicted, prat should have checked the depth before he dived. I guess it is human nature these days to grap a camera first before even thinking of going to help :(
 
Because unfortunatley, some people get a kick from seeing others suffer.
I like a good funny video and I like those done with special fx.
However, I have no desire to watch a video of another human or animal suffer from pain or real harm.
Don't forget, there was a time when people were beheaded in public and the crowds loved it.
 
Self inflicted or not its still nasty. I cant help wonder why as a species we feel compelled look at stuff like this. I'm guilty in the past of looking at similar stuff but after seeing that one i'm just asking myself why as a human being of "normal" disposition didnt i stop the video earlier as soon as i knew what kind of thing it was turning into. What in my brain said "this is entertainment"
 
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It was on a guys mobile although i'm told you can find it on the net (you tube maybe ) but to be honest dont. It was on facebook but has now been removed, thankfully.

If you really want to see it i'm sure it will do the rounds. BUT BE WARNED IT IS HORRIFIC
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Sorry, was meant as a joke after you were saying how horrific it was and only sickos derive pleasure from watching such things. :D
 
"Morbid Fascination"

Its a horrible thing. Ill never forget my brother showing me a video years ago of a fairground ride collapsing, you can clearly see someones leg get chopped off :/ But what did I do? I watched it again, almost to confirm what I thought I saw the first time.

Human nature I guess :(
 
Razon...get the joke now.

Betty... I think you're right, pure morbid fascination.#
 
Frankly, I have to agree with you. However, I've managed to "train" myself to refuse to watch these horrid videos. Even things like that which pop-up on the news; as a matter of fact, I've gone to such extreme that I've banned TV from home to stop these disgusting things showing up, plus a number of other filth!

I don't see the fun, humour, logic, or even curiosity that drives this weird fetish / sadistic need.

When my kids are old enough, I may take them to a morgue and a slaughter house so that they can see at first hand how horrible life can be, how bad driving can cause irreversible damage .. .. but to have this as news and entertainment is a degradation of society, which saddens me.

Just to add, if someone watches this kind of stuff and is unmoved (i.e. has become sanitised from the horror of this) then I honestly think that person & the person's parents (as it's mostly kids these days that seem to get a "buzz" out of such videos) need mental reconditioning. It's just a horrible drop in our society :(
 
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i think it has a lot to do with how long you have had access to the net, i have 10 years of surfing so i don't bother looking because i've seen most things and i know it's not my cup of tea.

conversely my wife loves jackass :bang:
 
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Well I kind of agree that circulating this gory stuff for it's own sake is a bit sick, but I'm pretty well case -hardened so there's not much gonna put me of me dinner.

In the case of the beheaded hostage though, I'm not so sure. I wouldn't advise anyone to watch it unless they're really sure they can cope with it, but it's inescapable graphic proof that there are people in the world capable of doing that to another human being.....today! It's so easy to detach yourself from a few lines of newsprint describing the same thing. You don't really know your enemy until you've seen what they're capable of.

In similar vein there's a video taken in the same part of the world of a guy being executed by impaling with a jeering crowd of onlookers in what is obviously a public place. I'm not sure what his offence was, but homosexiality I think.

It all beggars belief and I'm not sure we should insulate ourselves from this stuff at all. :shrug:
 
An another note, news of animal/child cruelty doesnt upset me anymore. Not because I dont care, because if anything, I am guilty of caring TOO much, but its quite commonplace in our society now, as sick as that is, and I am almost desensitised :shake:
 
I remember seeing a few of USAF nightcam vids

the first were infrared footage with audio from an apache as the crew annihilated terrorists which was both amazing and troubling, those things have incredible fire power.

the best vid was another helicopter crew watching and discussing a couple getting jiggy in a car a long way of and the resultant way that other 'copters turned up to enjoy the view and discuss the merits of techniques being employed by the lovers :D
 
I've also seen the beheading. I don't think I have any regrets about that. I made the choice to view it. I am in no way a "sicko". I do have regrets about a video I have seen before though but I'm not sure if we would be allowed to describe things we have seen on here without breaking rules.
 
andrew748 said:
I remember seeing a few of USAF nightcam vids

the first were infrared footage with audio from an apache as the crew annihilated terrorists which was both amazing and troubling, those things have incredible fire power.

the best vid was another helicopter crew watching and discussing a couple getting jiggy in a car a long way of and the resultant way that other 'copters turned up to enjoy the view and discuss the merits of techniques being employed by the lovers :D
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I saw that Apache one too. I don't go looking for these kind of vids, they tend to just get posted on forums. It was pretty graphic, but no worse than any war film tries to depict. The difference in this case is that it is obviously real.
 
Such videos gets circulated because of the internet era. Simple.

I bet if the internet and cheap video capturing didn't exist, 99% of what does get shown these days wouldn't see the light of day.
 
Goodness knows. I'm sure there are a lot of people on these forums who have seen, and experienced, blood and guts situations during their lives. I have, and it doesn't really bother me - you develop defence mechanisms - but I just can't understand why anyone would want to watch this sort of thing for its "entertainment" value. There's something missing in their lives, or their humanity, if they get a vicarious thrill out of it.

I lived in South Africa for 30 years, and it's a violent society, but one thing that just about sickened me didn't involve humans at all. About two years ago, a couple of teenagers (white, very comfortable middle class backgrounds, if anyone's interested) bought a dwarf hamster, dowsed it in lighter fuel, and set fire to it while one of their friends filmed the little animal burning to death, and squeaking in pain/terror, on her cellphone. They repeated this stunt a few days later and showed other kids at school the videos. One of them reported it to the principal and he called the cops. They were prosecuted, but good lawyers got them off with nothing more than a caution and some community service. I'd rather not say what I would have liked to see..............
 
Stuff like that should be banned and the perpetrators severly chastised in mediaeval fashion, to be sure...but hey - they're only kids (and soon they may move on to people but watcha gonna do...?), so say the bleeding-hearts that run our countries...In the old days parents would just beat the tar out of them with leather belts, but ooh can't do that now...it's cruel...

What has caused the most uproar on my FB page lately was the American guy having a boil on his upper-back lanced (lots of goo...) - you'd think they were talking about kittens being strangled...
 
Because most people live in a world of cotton wool and Bambi films Rob.
 
When the net was in it's infancy around the late nineties (yes it really has been going that long) somebody introduced me to (link removed), well....pictures of faces shot to pieces by a shotgun with just the neck showing etc, scenes of crime, suicide by train etc.
Anybody can view it and i wouldn't be surprised if it turned some psychiatric twisted people into maniac killers !
 
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Arkady said:
I need mental reconditioning, I guess...
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Frankly, I wouldn't class you in a category which I was referring to! Knowing, what little I know about you and where you venture into; I am sure you've needed the training to "immune" yourself from such ghastly sights.

Coming from a long line of military people, not one of my generation was allowed to enter military service simply for the horrid things our past generation have had to endure. It does affect your emotional stability, and it does affect your character ... no matter how strong willed you may be.

But for your average Tom, ****, Harry, and Wail . . . there is no need to watch, view or experience these kind of images. It serves no purpose.
 
But then there's some great ones. I've got one on my phone of some lads in a car driving along and one of them opens a door onto a cyclist as they're driving by (not so funny) the door slams shut but he's obviously got the handle pulled still because it bounces back open, drags him out of the car and face first straight into the back end of a parked car (bloody hilarious, that'll learn the little scrote).
 
I think there are various elements of it.

There are some things that you take pleasure in because they deserved it.
The video's cringe factor.
I.e. - the one Kev mentioned - guy trying to knock a kid off his bike by opening the moving car's door. Falls out of the car and smashes his face into a parked car.
- the chav kids having great fun destroying property by kicking a slat in a concrete fence. the slat breaks, the fence collapses, and crushes the little yob's shin.

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There are the videos of middle aged guys doing stupid, stupid things:
- Jackass
- Dirty Sanchez
- Various stupid videos on youtube

Then there are the harmless videos of people falling over etc
- You've been framed

Then there are the sick videos of people genuinely getting seriously injured/killed
- Like the one the OP mentioned - hideous
- Beheading of hostage

Then the videos of defenceless animals getting injured/killed:
- Hamster one martyn k mentioned

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As far as taking some sort of sadistic pleasure in watching people jump a golf-cart into a big papier mache statue, or wax there balls, or play paintball naked, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. A lot of people won't understand the mindlessness of it all, but then a lot of people don't understand a lot of things. I think it's human nature to enjoy, as said, these things. You might not consider it enjoyment, you might think "But I'm grimacing! But I don't like it!"
However you continue to watch it.

People, however, you take pleasure in seeing a man's face split in half, or seeing a man's head being cut off, are seriously mentally ill. I don't understand how ANYONE can take pleasure in such things.

One may argue that there is not anything different between that and say, Kill Bill, where a countless number of limbs are severed.
I think the realization that something is fantasy is what separates it.
 
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I think the realization that something is fantasy is what separates it.
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Maybe. There's been a lot of speculation on whether some people are finding it increasingly difficult to separate fantasy from reality, in our world of interactive electronic entertainment. I can't see it. Any human being who can't make this distinction, others than those suffering from sort of mental illness, should be encouraged to go for a Darwin Award.

There's also been a lot of psychobabble about whether watching extremely violent/pornographic videos incites people to kill, rape and mutilate. I don't believe it does, but I do believe that people who already have these - possibly psychopathic - proclivities may well watch and enjoy them, and act them out in some way or another.
 
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mmm. how come you know so much about these vids if ya dont watch em dave?:suspect::D
never watched a sick one in my life.:lol:
theres weird, and then theres too nasty for viewing.
i draw the line at nasty injuries and blood n gore stuff.

i do remember a while back, a vid of some little sh... trapping his leg in a concrete sectional fence, when he kicked a panle through.
most people found that very funny.me included.
he obviously suffered some pain.
 
MartynK said:
Maybe. There's been a lot of speculation on whether some people are finding it increasingly difficult to separate fantasy from reality, in our world of interactive electronic entertainment. I can't see it. Any human being who can't make this distinction, others than those suffering from sort of mental illness, should be encouraged to go for a Darwin Award.

There's also been a lot of psychobabble about whether watching extremely violent/pornographic videos incites people to kill, rape and mutilate. I don't believe it does, but I do believe that people who already have these - possibly psychopathic - proclivities may well watch and enjoy them, and act them out in some way or another.
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Now this I have studied extensively :p done several film studies and english papers on them.

Agreed.

Some people make the argument that kids are very impressionable and so violent films/games should be banned.
Kids shouldn't be allowed to watch/play things that involve violence in a realistic way (Kill Bill)
a) because it's illegal as it's no doubt going to be classified by the BBFC or whatever classifying board of that country
B) because usually they're too young to be able to differentiate between such realistic examples of fantasy violence, and real violence.

Sick and violent people will be sick and violent regardless of film and video games. They'll just act out their fantasies using vivid examples from books.
 
foodpoison said:
Sick and violent people will be sick and violent regardless of film and video games. They'll just act out their fantasies using vivid examples from books.
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Very true.
I doubt that Jack the Ripper, Lizzie Borden & Charles Manson et al
had web access
 
I am not normally bothered by anything I see on internet. I have probably been forwarded most of the things mentioned on here and I watch it and then simply delete it without thinking too much about it. I am fairly broad minded and don't get too upset by most things but I have to admit to being quite disturbed by the video of a guy in a prison cell who just puts a gun to his head and pulls the trigger.

It has taken quite a while to remove the uneasy feeling and it was quite genuine and very detailed. I had no idea he was going to do that, I was waiting for another one of the "a guy drunk, falls over" video. I guess everyone has a line and sadly I have found mine.
 
Sick Videos....why ????

Had to remind myself of the original question.

I've no idea but there's something that makes me want to watch a clip (that's grim) just to see what happens.

It's hard to explain really. I would never watch a film entitled 'watch this man break his leg' but when offered a clip to watch along the lines of 'stuntman doing a dangerous act' I will watch it because I am in awe of the risks being taken.

If I then condoned a 'sick' video of some poor sod breaking his neck I guess I'd be a hypocrite as it's the element of risk.

It's human nature I guess.
 
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there used to be a great little site called (link removed)

slightly less full on than (link removed)

they had a mix of funny gore and horrible gore

funny gore would be the time our american friends blew up a whale carcass on a beach and covered the entire film crew, beach and most of the small town in itty bitty chunks of whale.

and hideous gore is usually anyone with a gun or knife and a prisoner.
do you really need to kick the man in the head that you just emptied an AK47 into?
 
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foodpoison said:
Sick and violent people will be sick and violent regardless of film and video games. They'll just act out their fantasies using vivid examples from books.
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I think this has to be true. There was some pretty sick stuff available on film a couple of generations ago - including rumoured snuff movies - and some very lurid books were circulating in the C18th and C19th.

I don't know how far you can push this back, because you're going to run into barriers of low literacy rates, but perhaps it doesn't really matter. I don't think this has ever been explored for the ancient, medieval and early modern periods, and there aren't a lot of surviving records anyway, but we do know that many societies in the past had very different norms and values. Brutal public executions, public human sacrifice and a father's right to do, literally, as he pleased with his wife, family and slaves in the early Roman period are just a few examples. It was probably a lot easier to get away with it too, for a lot of reasons.
 
TBH, It's no worse really then going along to public executions in the 'old' days...

At least we don't have to stand in the rain and actually smell the faeces as the victim is 'dropped'...

We're a barbaric race of beings...accept it and get over it...some of you might think you're all sweetness and light, but if the right buttons are pushed (religious, nationalist, self-protection, any of the above - it just needs to be the right button for you...) then we all of us have the ability, capacity and the will to inflict any manner of horror on others...all of us...

Africa taught me that early on in my career and Bosnia and Kosovo confirmed that it's not limited to the so-called 'uncivilised' 3rd world peoples...
 
Arkady said:
TBH, It's no worse really then going along to public executions in the 'old' days...

At least we don't have to stand in the rain and actually smell the faeces as the victim is 'dropped'...

We're a barbaric race of beings...accept it and get over it...some of you might think you're all sweetness and light, but if the right buttons are pushed (religious, nationalist, self-protection, any of the above - it just needs to be the right button for you...) then we all of us have the ability, capacity and the will to inflict any manner of horror on others...all of us...

Africa taught me that early on in my career and Bosnia and Kosovo confirmed that it's not limited to the so-called 'uncivilised' 3rd world peoples...
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Absolutely. Sad but true.

What also is true is that the media has caused these videos to be more widespread. People think that things have changed in recent years. More suicide bombings, more teenage pregnancies, more drug abuse, more killing.

Not really, just news that wouldn't have travelled outside of a city is now being transmitted worldwide in seconds.
Instead of 1 incident being retold to 1000 people, 1 incident is being told to 100,000,000 people.
 
clicktor said:
I'm going to assume that's not work safe and hence haven't opened.
Can someone tell me if the guy who dives and his head splits in half, does he live?
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It's work safe i promise
 
Watched it, I wouldn't consider it work safe.
What a horrible thing to post DSLR ;)

Clicktor, I don't know. I wonder if there's anything on snopes about it.

Edit: It turns out that they are 2 separate videos.
The first, the diving accident, the guy probably came away with broken jaw, fractured skull, broken nose, broken cheek bones, the lot. I think he probably survived though.

However, the second part, the horrific 'cracked face' section is a different thing entirely. Someone added it to the end of the video for dramatic effect. After all, it doesn't look like he could have split his face in half from that kind of fall. Apparently it was a suicide attempt.

Believable? I think so. Apparently the guy who tried to kill himself shot himself with a 9mm pistol, and apparently the doctors are speaking japanese. however from the locale of the dive, it looks more like spanish/mexican.
 
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